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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 14:38:48 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? In a message dated 11/3/2006 11:28:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, probikeguy@probikeusa.com writes: I am not sure I want camber plates since the car is dual purpose now. I do like driving it on the street some. Gary, Looks like I can help you spend more of your hard earned dollars. For dual use (autox/street), I invested in TC Kline racing camber plates -- worth every penny. Slam them all the way in one direction (-3.5 degrees camber), slam them back in the other direction (bingo...-1.8 degrees). So easy to change, even a caveman can do it! cheers,
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? - from David Ngo
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 11:55:06 -0800 (PST) From: David Ngo <rudngo@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? As others have noted, it is most likely the offset of your wheels that is causing the problem. I have run 245/40-17 Hoosiers on 40mm offset Koseis with a 10mm spacer and that cleared just fine. The Hoosiers are really wide for their size - I would not expect 235/40-18 Dunlops to be a problem. If you are using the Dunlop SSRs, they have a section width of 9.8", which is not terribly hard to fit. The SSR wheels in that size are 45mm offset, I believe, so you will likely need something like a 15mm spacer. Are you using spacers now? What are your reservations with running camber plates on the street? I am running -3.5 degrees up front, 0 toe, with Motorforce plates for autox and do not change the settings for the street - I'm too lazy. :) No tire wear problems. Dave ----- Original Message ---- From: Gary <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, November 3, 2006 10:57:25 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:55:01 -0600 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? I have SSR comp's 18x8.5 235/40 Dunlop SP race tires (which might I add suck) they barely rub. I may be able to run two shims, or it just may be the tire itself causing the problems. My ride height is not lip dragging low. I need the car higher to get some extra protection for the turbo charge pipe. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Maller" <neil.maller@gte.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:27 AM Subject: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? > Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:26:20 -0500 > From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> > Subject: Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? > > on 11/3/06 9:07 AM, "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> wrote: > >> Front, -2.5 camber with one lower shim, 0 toe, can't remember castor all >> of >> these are fixed non adjustable >> Koni SA set full hard >> 550lb springs on coilover converters, GC >> 96 upper mounts flipped, left to right >> Treehouse racing LCA mounts >> Eibach bar, set full hard > >> Looks like I can leave it an see what happens. I wanted to run -3.5 on >> the >> front but I could not get the 18inch thire to clear and not rub the >> lower >> shock perch. Ideally I would like to run -3.5 front and -2.5 on the >> track >> and be able to swap back to -2.5 for the track. > > Even with camber shims it seems odd that your tires would rub the lower > spring perch on coilovers, unless maybe this GC setup uses stock diameter > springs or else your 18" wheels have an unusual offset. Coilovers with > 60mm > diameter race springs typically have bags of clearance. > > Regarding front camber, I have swapped 96+ hats but no shims and get a > professionally measured -3.25/-3.5 degrees. I may be running a lower ride > height than you, which could account for the extra I'm seeing. > > Neil > Fort Wayne, IN > 96 M3 - Bastard child > 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic > 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#3. Power Steering hose/fitting replacement - from Grant Fairweather
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 14:01:27 -0600 From: "Grant Fairweather" <grant_f1@comcast.net> Subject: Power Steering hose/fitting replacement The power steering hose on my '98 M3/4 has developed a slow dripping leak. I've found what I think to be a very suitable non-OE replacement option, and would like to toss it out there to see if anyone has had success in this area. I've been looking at the Aeroquip AN-6 (3/8') high pressure steel hose fittings (parts FBM1386, FBM1382, FBM1389, FBM1392, FBM1302, FBM1363) and their complementary AN-6 high pressure power steering hose (part FBG0600). The hose is mfg by Eaton and rated for power steering systems. FWIW, I spoke with an Eaton rep. in Germany and he told me that in the Eaton, at one time, was an OE PS hose supplier to BMW. These fittings are all AN-6, so they seem to be universal fittings. The sales rep recommended that I pull my SP hoses to verify the new fittings that I'd need. I'm just not familiar enough with the fittings to know if they would correctly mate to my bimmers steering rack, reservoir or other connection points. Anyone??? Grant 98 M3/4 Mundelein, IL
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? - from Gary
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 14:25:40 -0600 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? Just worry about beating the car up without some type of rubber/poly to isolate the chassis from vibration.. I might just be being to anal about it....Starting to look like I might end up with plates after all.. Its getting pretty close to being a "track only" car... Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ngo" <rudngo@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 11:55:06 -0800 (PST) > From: David Ngo <rudngo@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? > > As others have noted, it is most likely the offset of your wheels that is > causing the problem. I have run 245/40-17 Hoosiers on 40mm offset Koseis > with a 10mm spacer and that cleared just fine. The Hoosiers are really > wide for their size - I would not expect 235/40-18 Dunlops to be a > problem. If you are using the Dunlop SSRs, they have a section width of > 9.8", which is not terribly hard to fit. The SSR wheels in that size are > 45mm offset, I believe, so you will likely need something like a 15mm > spacer. > > Are you using spacers now? What are your reservations with running camber > plates on the street? I am running -3.5 degrees up front, 0 toe, with > Motorforce plates for autox and do not change the settings for the > street - I'm too lazy. :) No tire wear problems. > > Dave > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gary <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Friday, November 3, 2006 10:57:25 AM > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? > > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:55:01 -0600 > From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? > > I have SSR comp's 18x8.5 235/40 Dunlop SP race tires (which might I add > suck) they barely rub. I may be able to run two shims, or it just may be > the > tire itself causing the problems. My ride height is not lip dragging low. > I > need the car higher to get some extra protection for the turbo charge > pipe. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil Maller" <neil.maller@gte.net> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:27 AM > Subject: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? > > >> Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:26:20 -0500 >> From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> >> Subject: Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? >> >> on 11/3/06 9:07 AM, "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> wrote: >> >>> Front, -2.5 camber with one lower shim, 0 toe, can't remember castor all >>> of >>> these are fixed non adjustable >>> Koni SA set full hard >>> 550lb springs on coilover converters, GC >>> 96 upper mounts flipped, left to right >>> Treehouse racing LCA mounts >>> Eibach bar, set full hard >> >>> Looks like I can leave it an see what happens. I wanted to run -3.5 on >>> the >>> front but I could not get the 18inch thire to clear and not rub the >>> lower >>> shock perch. Ideally I would like to run -3.5 front and -2.5 on the >>> track >>> and be able to swap back to -2.5 for the track. >> >> Even with camber shims it seems odd that your tires would rub the lower >> spring perch on coilovers, unless maybe this GC setup uses stock diameter >> springs or else your 18" wheels have an unusual offset. Coilovers with >> 60mm >> diameter race springs typically have bags of clearance. >> >> Regarding front camber, I have swapped 96+ hats but no shims and get a >> professionally measured -3.25/-3.5 degrees. I may be running a lower ride >> height than you, which could account for the extra I'm seeing. >> >> Neil >> Fort Wayne, IN >> 96 M3 - Bastard child >> 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic >> 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************************* >> Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >> >> Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >> Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >> Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >> Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >> Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >> Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com >> >> DIGEST INFORMATION: >> http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >> ************************************************* >> >> >> > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 12:36:21 -0800 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? Get the GC hybrid CC plates. They have a rubber cusion between the upper spring hat and the spring. They work great and you can swap to a race hat later if you want. Hybrids will only increase stack height by 1/4". -----Original Message----- From: Gary [mailto:probikeguy@probikeusa.com] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:27 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 14:25:40 -0600 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: E36M3 track car rear toe ? Just worry about beating the car up without some type of rubber/poly to isolate the chassis from vibration.. I might just be being to anal about it....Starting to look like I might end up with plates after all.. Its getting pretty close to being a "track only" car...
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#6. Clunk...was... Car just hit 192K miles.. few quirks/problems.. - from air2daa@insightbb.com
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Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:41:42 -0500 From: <air2daa@insightbb.com> Subject: Clunk...was... Car just hit 192K miles.. few quirks/problems.. FWIW - I've had a clunk gradually getting worse over the last year or so. The indications were most evident on the track (going into the keyhole at Mid Ohio) and only sometimes on the street (bumps, etc). I had not been able to find it and neither colud my mechanic. Then I fianlly decided to replace the motor and transmission mounts only to discover the clunk was comming from a broken engine mount that had also wallowed out a good size hole in the cross beam support. I ended up welding inthe Turner reinforcement kit, changing the motor & tranny mounts with ones I got from Bimmerworld and no more clunk. Overall, not as big a job as I originally thought it would be. You may want to check the motor and tranny mounts to make sure they are tight and in good condition. Dave A 95 ///M3 > -------------------- 9 -------------------- > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 08:42:10 -0500 > From: "Jesse Chamberlain" <jesse.chamberlain@gmail.com> > Subject: Car just hit 192K miles.. few quirks/problems.. > > I have a few issues I'm trying to track down on my car. I > have a 95M3 > that has 192K miles on it. > The first problem, I have a clunk in the front end of the > car. To give > some history, its been there for about a year, and about 3 > months ago, I > did a complete refresh of the front end. I have new > control arms, new > CA bushings, new struts, new strut mounts, new swaybar links, > and new > inner and outer tie-rods (all of these parts were in-need > of being > replaced anyways). But after all this work, the clunk is still there. > It happens when I go over large bumps, and only sometimes when I > go over > smaller bumps. <snip> Thanks for the input! Jesse Chamberlain > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.comRogue Engineering > http://www.rogueengineering.comTreehouse Racing > http://www.treehouseracing.comElephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#7. Re: Guide Pins - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:40:12 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Guide Pins on 11/3/06 12:57 PM, "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> wrote: > I do recall seeing a BMW Service Bulletin (a couple years back) that > indicated lubing the guild bushings. I use Sly-Glide(sp) from NAPA. Sil-Glyde; it's a thick silicone grease and works very well in the caliper guide bushings. > I do clean the pins with Scotch Brite before installation. > Also, I'd pass on SS lines for the street. I have heard of a couple too > many premature failures. Plain rubber brake hoses fail too. Get high quality braided hoses that have moulded strain reliefs at either end and a shrunk-on outer plastic sleeve to protect against dirt ingress. StopTech makes really nice ones. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Power Steering hose/fitting replacement - from Kent Shephard
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 12:52:02 -0800 From: Kent Shephard <Kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Power Steering hose/fitting replacement I went to a local shop for my E30 and had them make the hose. They used the existing fittings and gave me a hose better than stock for under $100. Kent Shephard kents@kshephard.com On Nov 3, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Grant Fairweather wrote: > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 14:01:27 -0600 > From: "Grant Fairweather" <grant_f1@comcast.net> > Subject: Power Steering hose/fitting replacement > > The power steering hose on my '98 M3/4 has developed a slow > dripping leak. I've found what I think to be a very suitable non- > OE replacement option, and would like to toss it out there to see > if anyone has had success in this area. I've been looking at the > Aeroquip AN-6 (3/8') high pressure steel hose fittings (parts > FBM1386, FBM1382, FBM1389, FBM1392, FBM1302, FBM1363) and their > complementary AN-6 high pressure power steering hose (part > FBG0600). The hose is mfg by Eaton and rated for power steering > systems. FWIW, I spoke with an Eaton rep. in Germany and he told > me that in the Eaton, at one time, was an OE PS hose supplier to BMW. > > These fittings are all AN-6, so they seem to be universal > fittings. The sales rep recommended that I pull my SP hoses to > verify the new fittings that I'd need. I'm just not familiar > enough with the fittings to know if they would correctly mate to my > bimmers steering rack, reservoir or other connection points. > Anyone??? > > Grant > 98 M3/4 > Mundelein, IL > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Power Steering hose/fitting replacement - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:03:47 -0800 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Power Steering hose/fitting replacement My PS hose was leaking from where it attaches to the reservoir. I replaced the OEM hose clamp with a nice worm type clamp and butted a second one up against the first. Hasn't leaked in almost 3 years. I really think the problem is with the crappy OEM hose clamp. It would cost you $2 and 30 minutes to try it first in any event. Dave 98 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Grant Fairweather [mailto:grant_f1@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:07 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Power Steering hose/fitting replacement The power steering hose on my '98 M3/4 has developed a slow dripping leak. I've found what I think to be a very suitable non-OE replacement option, and would like to toss it out there to see if anyone has had success in this area. I've been looking at the Aeroquip AN-6 (3/8') high pressure steel hose fittings (parts FBM1386, FBM1382, FBM1389, FBM1392, FBM1302, FBM1363) and their complementary AN-6 high pressure power steering hose (part FBG0600). The hose is mfg by Eaton and rated for power steering systems. FWIW, I spoke with an Eaton rep. in Germany and he told me that in the Eaton, at one time, was an OE PS hose supplier to BMW. Grant 98 M3/4 Mundelein, IL
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#10. RE: [E36M3] E36M3 track car rear toe ? - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:06:56 -0800 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] E36M3 track car rear toe ? Wouldn't the amount of rebound you use depend on the spring rate? -----Original Message----- From: Gary [mailto:probikeguy@probikeusa.com] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 7:47 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 track car rear toe ? Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:46:41 -0600 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 track car rear toe ? I think so. I counted how many turns there was total and just calculated 75%. I set them last year and have not touched them.. Gary