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#1. Re: Short final drive ratio/6-speed - from Gary
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:34:51 -0600 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: Short final drive ratio/6-speed Not on the track, to laggy...I rode in one last year, AA turbo 490hp, it sucked horribly on the track...Stock 325's were out pulling him leaving the corner...We would catch the 325 at the very end of the straight. In my car I launch out of the corner like a rocket. I almost ran over a guy in a Twin Turbo Porsche coming out of a corner at Barber :o) high point of the week end, having him wave me by in the instructor run group! Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Maller" <neil.maller@gte.net> To: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com>; "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: Short final drive ratio/6-speed > on 12/6/06 12:53 PM, Gary at probikeguy@probikeusa.com wrote: > >> Do the six speed, its a super nice combo..I love my euro 6 speed and >> 3.38! >> Especially with the turbo! > > With a turbo you could probably run a 2.93 and still fly! > > Neil > Fort Wayne, IN > 96 M3 - Bastard child > 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic > 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD > > >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Short final drive ratio/6-speed - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:40:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Short final drive ratio/6-speed On Wed, December 6, 2006 8:34 am, Neil Maller said: > - 3.64 sounds like a really good ratio for track use, but since it'd raise > my 75 mph freeway cruising rpm from 3450 to 3875 (for a Toyo RA-1 in > 235/40-17 size) I don't think I could live with driving to the track that > way. My only comment is that unless you've ridden/driven in a car so geared on the freeway, it may not be as bad as you might think. Do you still have the interior in your car? You may not even notice it. :-) I have a 3.91 in the race car, which has no interior and I drive to/from the track. Is it louder than the stock M3? Umm, yeah :-) But not unbearably so. I typically drive up to 2 hours to local tracks, and have slightly-less regularly driven 3-8 hours for further races. Anyway, just wanted to provide a data point. Jim Bassett
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Lazy drivers seat - from david kroth
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:30:32 -0800 (PST) From: david kroth <david_kroth@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Lazy drivers seat > David, > > Have you done this procedure before? Yes, and no. I had the seat completely apart to change out the seat heater. I had the bottom seat pad in my hand. In retrospect, I should have bought a new one because the padding on mine has worn through to the metal bars on the bolsters due to getting in and out of the car. However, I didn't know this in advance and therefore couldn't make the switch. The old, worn pad went back in. :-( So, to anyone planning to change your seat heater pad: if you have *any* trouble with sagging bolsters or heavy wear spots on on the leather pay the extra $55 and get a new seat pad. It's one of those "while you are in there" things... David Kroth david_kroth@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index
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#4. Re: To 335i or not. Why not both? - from Mdgreer
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:35:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Mdgreer" <mark.greer@excite.com> Subject: Re: To 335i or not. Why not both? This thread struck a cord with me as I am also considering another car. Although the M3/4 is still running strong it's time for something else. I am about to pull the trigger on an e46 M3. As a father of 3, the 2 door limitation does concern me. I like the giddy-up of the 335i, but am unsure about overall handling on the street or track. I'd be interested in any direct experience with the 335 on-track. Another option might be to to keep the e36 (for fun) and get another daily driver like the 335i. Downside is paying insurance on both. Are there any experienced junkies out there who have been able to turn coverages on-and-off or blend them to approach a one policy price? What do you do? Am I actually considering a 193,000 mile garage queen? Mark _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: To 335i or not. Why not both? - from Carey Probst
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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:04:01 -0500 From: Carey Probst <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: To 335i or not. Why not both? I think that the insurance question is really dependent on where you live. For me, keeping a track toy car and paying the insurance is a no brainer, esp. since it doubles as an airport/train station car so I can leave the M3 at home. Where I live in upstate NY, full coverage, collision, comprehensive, liability, uninsured motorist, etc. with $500/deductible is under $500/year. Same for the '99 M3, about $600/year. Now, if I lived in some insurance hell like NJ, Metro NY, DC or the like, the answer would be much different. My son is paying more for his '93 325is in MD than I do for my M3, '86 325, and wife's 2006 RX-8. Carey Mdgreer wrote: > Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:35:35 -0500 (EST) > From: "Mdgreer" <mark.greer@excite.com> > Subject: Re: To 335i or not. Why not both? > > > > This thread struck a cord with me as I am also considering another car. Although the M3/4 is still running strong it's time for something else. I am about to pull the trigger on an e46 M3. As a father of 3, the 2 door limitation does concern me. I like the giddy-up of the 335i, but am unsure about overall handling on the street or track. I'd be interested in any direct experience with the 335 on-track. > > Another option might be to to keep the e36 (for fun) and get another daily driver like the 335i. Downside is paying insurance on both. Are there any experienced junkies out there who have been able to turn coverages on-and-off or blend them to approach a one policy price? What do you do? > > Am I actually considering a 193,000 mile garage queen? > Mark > > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > -- Carey Probst Member, M.I.T. Educational Council Perm: hcprobst@alum.mit.edu A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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#6. to 335i or not to 335i? - from Richard Sperry
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:58:31 -0500 From: "Richard Sperry" <richardsperry@comcast.net> Subject: to 335i or not to 335i? ------------------------------------------- From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? The E90 platform has a good bit more room than the E36 too - especially back seat and trunk space. It is a bigger car, however - quite a bit wider and a little longer and a bit heavier but not as much as you would think by looking at it. ------------------------------------------ I'll say. The E46 was within a few inches and pounds of the older 5 series cars. And the E90 is even bigger. I don't care how you try to disguise it, More power, bigger wheels, tires, and brakes. Mass is mass. I doubt that anyone that post in the newsgroups and fourms would care a bit if they decontented a bit. Maybe we wouldn't need a 500Hp V10 to motavate it. Rant off, Flame suit on.
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#7. Re: Short final drive ratio/6-speed - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:11:00 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Short final drive ratio/6-speed on 12/6/06 1:40 PM, Jim Bassett at jim@jimbassett.com wrote: > My only comment is that unless you've ridden/driven in a car so geared on > the freeway, it may not be as bad as you might think. Do you still have > the interior in your car? Yep, got the full interior. > You may not even notice it. :-) My header starts a nice resonance at around 3400 rpm, so I yes probably would. Mantra of the modified car: "If it's not one thing it's another, and if not that then it's the two of 'em together." > I have a 3.91 in the race car, which has no interior and I drive to/from > the track. Is it louder than the stock M3? Umm, yeah :-) But not > unbearably so. You may have a higher threshold of "beardom" than me. ;-) Neil 96 M3
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Short final drive ratio/6-speed - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:20:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Short final drive ratio/6-speed On Wed, December 6, 2006 1:14 pm, Neil Maller said: >> You may not even notice it. :-) > > My header starts a nice resonance at around 3400 rpm, Ahh, wasn't aware of what other mods you had. > Mantra of the modified car: "If it's not one thing it's another, > and > if not that then it's the two of 'em together." I know the feeling :-) >> I have a 3.91 in the race car, which has no interior and I drive to/from >> the track. Is it louder than the stock M3? Umm, yeah :-) But not >> unbearably so. > > You may have a higher threshold of "beardom" than me. ;-) Might have something to do with the partial hearing loss in one ear - too much loud music in my youth :-) But, I'll put up with a lot to NOT need a truck/trailer for the race car. YMMV :-) Jim Bassett
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#9. Diff ratios- was Re: Short final drive ratio/6-speed - from RFKoby@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 16:27:00 EST From: RFKoby@aol.com Subject: Diff ratios- was Re: Short final drive ratio/6-speed some notes on differents, as long as you stay with a "medium case" diff, or 188 (width in mm I think) case, or 6 bolt output bearing sides.... 6 cylinder diffs.... the pinion and LSD spool with swap into the case. All you have to do is buy the $2 crush sleeve. For all of these are medium case differentials, the critical dimension of all of these cases are the same, attachments points and case covers vary model to model. all of these ratios came in both Open and LSD versions (look for the "S" in the part number). [there are some that I missed for sure] early e30 325 and 325e came with 2.79 late e30 325e came with 2.93 e30 325i 5spd came with 3.73 e30 325i auto came with 4.10 e30 325iX auto and 5 speed came with 4.10 viscous LSD (very nice) e36 325/95 m3 came with 3.15 e36 325 auto came with 3.91 E36 M3 96+ came with 3.23 e36 m3 auto came with 3.38 e28 5 series auto came with 3.46 e24 6 series/L6 came with 3.46 E23 L7 came with 3.46 e34 5 series came with 4.10 early E32 7 series came with 3.64 E32 7 series came with 4.27 I have built and rebuilt several diffs, my "supermileage" 92 325i has a 2.79 LSD for mpg and supercruise. my 94 325is trackcar has a 3.73 LSD "Neil chasing diff" ;-) -------------------- 6 -------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:44:20 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Short final drive ratio/6-speed on 12/6/06 12:26 PM, Marco at m3driver@iname.com wrote: > I really like my 3.73 in the race car. Granted my redline is 8500 (I rarely > go above 7500). Yes, that higher rpm limit would make a rather significant difference to the max available speed in each gear, even using no more than 7500 rpm. > 3.73 are also relatively easy to find vs the 3.64 that > seems a bit rare. I've noticed that too. Presumably a function of what chassis each ratio was originally used in. I'm no kind of an expert on ratio vs. model. vs. chassis vs. large/small case (eyes glaze over...). Anyone care to elucidate?
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: To 335i or not. Why not both? - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 16:02:35 -0600 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: To 335i or not. Why not both? > Another option might be to to keep the e36 (for fun) and get another daily driver like the 335i. Downside is paying insurance on both. Are there any experienced junkies out there who have been able to turn coverages on-and-off or blend them to approach a one policy price? What do you do? > I only carry fire and theft on my M3 since I don't drive it on the street at all and Allstate specifically state that I am not covered for any damage that ocurs at any racetrack. On my other cars I do suspend the liability and collision coverage when I know I am not going to be driving them for a while. It is a simple process in theory that only involves a phone call to my Ins Agent. In practice, I tend to want to drive both cars pretty much all of the time so I end up keeping them both covered while my F250 sits on the driveway. -- Jamie Howton 2006 M Roadster 2004 645Ci 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL