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#1. Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from Scott McClung
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 11:53:24 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? M version of the new 1-series maybe?? mdriver13@aol.com wrote: Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 08:30:17 -0500 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? "Mass is mass. I doubt that anyone that post in the newsgroups and fourms would care a bit if they decontented a bit. Maybe we wouldn't need a 500Hp V10 to motavate it." How true. Those PTG guys have yet to come close to equaling the track success they had with the e36M3's. The Corvette guys are happy campers since GM finally got it right and down sized the newest vette! Since all current 3 series BMW are really 5 series size, when will the top guys at BMW get it right again? Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering -----Original Message----- From: richardsperry@comcast.net To: e36m3@bmw-m.net Sent: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 4:04 PM Subject: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:58:31 -0500 From: "Richard Sperry" Subject: to 335i or not to 335i? ------------------------------------------- From: Scott McClung Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? The E90 platform has a good bit more room than the E36 too - especially back seat and trunk space. It is a bigger car, however - quite a bit wider and a little longer and a bit heavier but not as much as you would think by looking at it. ------------------------------------------ I'll say. The E46 was within a few inches and pounds of the older 5 series cars. And the E90 is even bigger. I don't care how you try to disguise it, More power, bigger wheels, tires, and brakes. Mass is mass. I doubt that anyone that post in the newsgroups and fourms would care a bit if they decontented a bit. Maybe we wouldn't need a 500Hp V10 to motavate it. Rant off, Flame suit on. ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#2. RE: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from K.C. Boyce
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 15:49:35 -0500 From: "K.C. Boyce" <k_boyce@e30eta.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? Thanks all for the comments - I, like David, am also considering moving from a '97 M3/4 to a 335i. I've driven the 335i coupe, and, as others have stated, it's a quick little number. I just can't get over the 500# weight increase. A 135i would be just about right in size & weight for me...sigh... I drove the 335i coupe at the BMW intro event, so it was auto-x style and also an automatic. I'm waiting for my dealership to get in a 335i stick with sport package to try it on roads I'm used to driving my M3 on to compare. The downside is that they aren't selling a lot of sticks with this car, and I'm not going to order something I haven't driven, so it's on hold until they get one that I can drive. Anyway, David, please let us know what you decide and your post-decision satisfaction! KC Boyce '97 M3 Crew Cab
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#3. George Corso Are You Out There - from R Bruce Shafer
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:38:39 -0500 From: R.Bruce Shafer <mzealot@bellsouth.net> Subject: George Corso Are You Out There Please contact me at this email address: Mzealot@bellsouth.net
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#4. Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from dhogg
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Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 08:23:10 -0500 From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? Say what you want, this 335i 4-door could be the replacement for my M3/4. My boys are getting a lot bigger, and there's no foot room for them in the M3/4. I drove the 335i/4 with the automatic, and it's one very impressive car. One killer flaw, though is the OPEN DIFF! How the heck am I going to hang the tail out properly with an open diff?? Come on, BMW, don't make me live with only electronic nannies for turning the car. Based on this item alone, I may wait it out for the new M3/4. Heck, I'm only at 109,000 miles, and with 10W-40 synthetic, it's not even burning oil anymore. Dave Hogg '95 M3 #20 IS (who cares about rear seat room?) '98 M3/4 Daily Driver short on rear foot room
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#5. Re: [E36M3] to 335i? Slighty OT - from dhogg
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Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 08:44:58 -0500 From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i? Slighty OT Since Gill mentioned Corvettes, I had a couple hot laps in the new Z06 as a passenger with my instructor at the Bondurant School track at Firebird last week. Holy smoke! And I thought the new M5 might be overkill for the street. This thing's the closest you can get to a GT-class race car with a license plate - at any price. BTW, if you want some incredible fun in a Roush-prepared Mustang Cobra and great trail braking/car control instruction, the Advanced Road Racing course at Bondurant is spot-on. Even if you normally drive an E36 M3 (there, on topic again). Dave Hogg
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#6. Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from Gary
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Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 08:13:26 -0600 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? Flaws mean it upgradeable ;-) I think Diff's online already has a LSD for them..And Vishnu Tuning has already gotten an extra 70ish hp 65ft trq with a piggy back ECU controller..That can be switched off to be invisible to the dealer ;-) One guy that had Vishnu tune his car said it was faster than his M5 he had.... AND the tuning for them will only get better, and better..I would be willing to put money on it that the 335i IS the next big BMW tuner car not the M3 or M5... Gary Seriously thought about getting a 335...until I turbocharged my E36M3! ----- Original Message ----- From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? > Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 08:23:10 -0500 > From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? > > Say what you want, this 335i 4-door could be the replacement for my M3/4. > My boys are getting a lot bigger, and there's no foot room for them in the > M3/4. > > > > I drove the 335i/4 with the automatic, and it's one very impressive car. > One killer flaw, though is the OPEN DIFF! How the heck am I going to hang > the tail out properly with an open diff?? Come on, BMW, don't make me > live > with only electronic nannies for turning the car. Based on this item > alone, > I may wait it out for the new M3/4. Heck, I'm only at 109,000 miles, and > with 10W-40 synthetic, it's not even burning oil anymore. > > > > Dave Hogg > > '95 M3 #20 IS (who cares about rear seat room?) > > '98 M3/4 Daily Driver short on rear foot room > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from Scott M
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Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 09:43:59 -0800 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? I think it would warrant a call to Turner to see what is in the works for a LSD. Although, could be a $3-4K upgrade that should come from BMW for a bunch less.... Scott On Dec 9, 2006, at 5:24 AM, dhogg wrote: > Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 08:23:10 -0500 > From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? > > Say what you want, this 335i 4-door could be the replacement for my > M3/4. > My boys are getting a lot bigger, and there's no foot room for them > in the > M3/4. > > > > I drove the 335i/4 with the automatic, and it's one very impressive > car. > One killer flaw, though is the OPEN DIFF! How the heck am I going > to hang > the tail out properly with an open diff?? Come on, BMW, don't make > me live > with only electronic nannies for turning the car. Based on this > item alone, > I may wait it out for the new M3/4. Heck, I'm only at 109,000 > miles, and > with 10W-40 synthetic, it's not even burning oil anymore. > > > > Dave Hogg > > '95 M3 #20 IS (who cares about rear seat room?) > > '98 M3/4 Daily Driver short on rear foot room > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#8. Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from R. Bruce Shafer
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Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 13:12:18 -0500 From: "R. Bruce Shafer" <mzealot@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? Not to be pessemistic, but the new 335I should drive the price of the E46 M3 down. Anybody with me?
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#9. Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from Mark Duckworth
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Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 13:18:46 -0500 From: Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 12:14 -0600, R. Bruce Shafer wrote: > Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 13:12:18 -0500 > From: "R. Bruce Shafer" <mzealot@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? > > Not to be pessemistic, but the new 335I should drive the price of the E46 M3 > down. Anybody with me? Sorry to all the E46 owners but I hope anything drives the E46's down. I want a 5-speed with just over 100,000 miles for less than $25K. Right now, that's not happening. It seems most of them are simply undriven with 20K miles or less! Such a waste :-P Thanks, Mark
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#10. Paint protectant question - from K.C. Boyce
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Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 14:36:01 -0500 From: "K.C. Boyce" <k_boyce@e30eta.com> Subject: Paint protectant question Gruppe, I spent the Thanksgiving weekend giving my car its annual buffing (it's a daily driver, so it had some light water mark etching and scratches) and lavishing it with its 90-day coat of One Grand Blitz. Then I took the car to the dealer earlier this week to replace the HVAC blower motor (a hateful job that I refuse to do).they "hand washed" my car and returned it with lots of water spots and swirl marks. They've offered to have their body shop guys buff out the marks and reapply a paint sealant. Honestly, I'm tempted to let them do it because I'm not looking forward to spending 6 hours with my car again so soon. However, the sealant they use is some sort of BMW-approved Teflon sealant, and I'm concerned about how this will interact with future carnauba waxings with One Grand. Anyone have any advice on this? I have an appointment scheduled for Wednesday for them to do this work, but can cancel and ask them for $ instead if it's a bad idea to put Teflon on my finish. TIA, KC Boyce '97 M3 Crew Cab