E36M3 #5069

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:04:29

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Wasn't someone looking at the '95 M3 in Tacoma, WA? - from Paul L Fisher
#2. Re: The slippery slope continues... - from dhogg
#3. RE: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from m3 drvr
#4. RE: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from Scott McClung
#5. Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from Jamie Howton
#6. RE: LTW - from Ahmad Lutfeali
#7. Washer between strut bearing and spring hat - from Kirk Lachman
#8. Re: [E36M3] Washer between strut bearing and spring hat - from Chester Wong
#9. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Washer between strut bearing and spring hat - from Marco
#10. RE: [E36M3] Washer between strut bearing and spring hat - from Mike Frank

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Wasn't someone looking at the '95 M3 in Tacoma, WA? - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:42:10 -0600 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Wasn't someone looking at the '95 M3 in Tacoma, WA? If you click on the link, it gives you a free 'record check' which basically tells you how many records Carfax on the car. In this case, 7. It doesn’t tell you what they are. However. I just bought a 2000 323i for $4500. It needs a new radiator but is good other than that. Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red Become a BMW CCA Member! Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: loweseaton@aol.com [mailto:loweseaton@aol.com] Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 8:14 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Wasn't someone looking at the '95 M3 in Tacoma, WA? Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:13:31 -0500 From: loweseaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Wasn't someone looking at the '95 M3 in Tacoma, WA? I would say it is still overpriced by $2-3K but it is worth kicking the tires at $16K. I laugh when I see fools who think they can get $20+K for ordinary '95 M3's that were produced in large numbers. I won't pay it. I'm amazed the old E30 M3 can still sell for $15+K but it was produced in way fewer numbers. P.S. This Autotrader ad says you can get a "free" Carfax report for this M3. But when I click on the "free" button, I get sent to another link and have to pay $24.99 for it. Is there some trick I am missing? Lowell Seaton '95 M3 -----Original Message----- From: rex_tener@yahoo.com To: e36m3@bmw-m.net Sent: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:04 AM Subject: [E36M3] Wasn't someone looking at the '95 M3 in Tacoma, WA? Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:56:16 -0800 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Wasn't someone looking at the '95 M3 in Tacoma, WA? I thought there was a person on this list looking at the '95 M3 in Tacoma, WA on Autotrader? It looks like they have dropped the price $6K to a much more reasonable $16K. <http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=209267590&> Rex -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.24/592 - Release Date: 12/18/2006 1:45 PM

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#2. Re: The slippery slope continues... - from dhogg
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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:12:37 -0500 From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> Subject: Re: The slippery slope continues... Jeff, Sounds so familiar! Save the '98 M3/4 by getting the '95 "safety car" with a cage. What a splendid DE car! But then the "safety car" started running wheel to wheel, just to see what it was like, of course. It got bumped around a little, so the seams were no longer quite straight, and - oh, no, I'm slipping down the hill and didn't know it! Dave Hogg '98 M3/4 '95 M3 IS Safety Car

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#3. RE: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from m3 drvr
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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:53:04 -0500 From: "m3 drvr" <m3bro@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? Here is my question/point... Since the weight goes up about 500 lbs. why not look at a E39m5??? Has the power, space, and is definitely quick enough! Also, the prices are dropping on these cars... Clyde 98/4 67k miles >From: "K.C. Boyce" <k_boyce@e30eta.com> >Reply-To: "K.C. Boyce" <k_boyce@e30eta.com> >To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? >Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:54:26 -0600 > >Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 15:49:35 -0500 >From: "K.C. Boyce" <k_boyce@e30eta.com> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? > >Thanks all for the comments - I, like David, am also considering moving >from >a '97 M3/4 to a 335i. > >I've driven the 335i coupe, and, as others have stated, it's a quick little >number. I just can't get over the 500# weight increase. A 135i would be >just about right in size & weight for me...sigh... > >I drove the 335i coupe at the BMW intro event, so it was auto-x style and >also an automatic. I'm waiting for my dealership to get in a 335i stick >with sport package to try it on roads I'm used to driving my M3 on to >compare. The downside is that they aren't selling a lot of sticks with >this >car, and I'm not going to order something I haven't driven, so it's on hold >until they get one that I can drive. > >Anyway, David, please let us know what you decide and your post-decision >satisfaction! > >KC Boyce >'97 M3 Crew Cab > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/

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#4. RE: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from Scott McClung
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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:51:01 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? Huge difference in operating costs between a brand new 335 and a used M5. Maybe if you could get a 2003 on CPO it could be interesting. The clutch is weak and is a $2500 replacement. Vanos is a problem and is a $5K repair bill. The list goes on. Compare that to no cost repair and maint for 4 years with the new one. Although, there is no comparison between the two cars. M5 is an incredible machine. I owned one for 1 year and I still miss it and once in awhile consider another one dispite all the reasons why I shouldn't :-) V8 is just sweet, but really drinks the fuel. I got about 16mpg in my normal mixed drive cycle, compared to ~21mpg with an M3 or 330i and likely the 335i would do even better. Scott m3 drvr <m3bro@hotmail.com> wrote: Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:53:04 -0500 From: "m3 drvr" Subject: RE: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? Here is my question/point... Since the weight goes up about 500 lbs. why not look at a E39m5??? Has the power, space, and is definitely quick enough! Also, the prices are dropping on these cars... Clyde 98/4 67k miles >From: "K.C. Boyce" >Reply-To: "K.C. Boyce" >To: E36M3 >Subject: RE: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? >Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:54:26 -0600 > >Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 15:49:35 -0500 >From: "K.C. Boyce" >Subject: RE: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? > >Thanks all for the comments - I, like David, am also considering moving >from >a '97 M3/4 to a 335i. > >I've driven the 335i coupe, and, as others have stated, it's a quick little >number. I just can't get over the 500# weight increase. A 135i would be >just about right in size & weight for me...sigh... > >I drove the 335i coupe at the BMW intro event, so it was auto-x style and >also an automatic. I'm waiting for my dealership to get in a 335i stick >with sport package to try it on roads I'm used to driving my M3 on to >compare. The downside is that they aren't selling a lot of sticks with >this >car, and I'm not going to order something I haven't driven, so it's on hold >until they get one that I can drive. > >Anyway, David, please let us know what you decide and your post-decision >satisfaction! > >KC Boyce >'97 M3 Crew Cab > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#5. Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 07:14:33 -0600 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? > Huge difference in operating costs between a brand new 335 and a used M5. Maybe if you could get a 2003 on CPO it could be interesting. The clutch is weak and is a $2500 replacement. Vanos is a problem and is a $5K repair bill. The list goes on. Compare that to no cost repair and maint for 4 years with the new one. > I absolutely agree. I recently sold my 2000 M5 and during 21 months of ownership the repair bills averaged $1,000 per month. Additionally, It drank the very expensive TWS 10W60 oil at 1L per 1000 miles. > Although, there is no comparison between the two cars. M5 is an incredible machine. I owned one for 1 year and I still miss it and once in awhile consider another one dispite all the reasons why I shouldn't :-) V8 is just sweet, but really drinks the fuel. I got about 16mpg in my normal mixed drive cycle, compared to ~21mpg with an M3 or 330i and likely the 335i would do even better. > I would go as far as to say the E39 M5 is the best car I have owned in terms of acceleration; braking and handling were suprisingly good for a 2 ton car but not as good as my other cars. I averaged 19.8mpg during the 21 months which was 75% highway useage and I never took it to the track, it's just too heavy and too fragile IMO. -- Jamie Howton 2006 M Roadster 2004 645Ci 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL

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#6. RE: LTW - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:33:15 -0500 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: LTW www.strictly-german.com Talk to Bobby. He has one sitting in his yard. -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:46:59 -0800 From: "Don Feen" <donfeen@gmail.com> Subject: Do you have an M3 Lightweight? If you have an 1995 M3 lightweight, that is just sitting there, and you have always wanted the 2001 e46M3 that won the European Car Shootout, please send me an email. Maybe we can work out a deal. Thank You, Jay Morris using someone elses email address

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#7.  Washer between strut bearing and spring hat - from Kirk Lachman
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:03:06 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Kirk Lachman <admranger@earthlink.net> Subject: <WTB> Washer between strut bearing and spring hat During the annual disassembly of the race car, I found a couple of problems. First one was easy, a bad right front wheel bearing (box of rocks sound gave it away... doh!). Anyone have any experience with Road Race Tech's "lifetime" front wheel bearings? Second one was a new one for me, broken washer that goes between the bottom of the strut bearing and the top of the spring perch hat. Anyone have one? It's a dealer only item and the last time I tried to order a special part from the dealer, I swore it was the last time I'd do that! Local dealer parts guy was a disaster (I even gave him the part number and you'd thought I'd asked for his arm the hassle I got ordering the part). Never did get that part from them... Thanks, Kirk Lachman Sin City Chapter '95 M3 #21 I-stock -- in pieces

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#8. Re: [E36M3]  Washer between strut bearing and spring hat - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:25:13 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] <WTB> Washer between strut bearing and spring hat I was able to order these with no problem. Be warned: they are expensive...hahaha. Chester --- Kirk Lachman <admranger@earthlink.net> wrote: > Second one was a new one for me, broken washer that goes between the bottom > of the strut bearing and the top of the spring perch hat. Anyone have one? > > It's a dealer only item and the last time I tried to order a special part > from the dealer, I swore it was the last time I'd do that! Local dealer > parts guy was a disaster (I even gave him the part number and you'd thought > I'd asked for his arm the hassle I got ordering the part). Never did get > that part from them...

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#9. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3]  Washer between strut bearing and spring hat - from Marco
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:56:21 -0800 From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] <WTB> Washer between strut bearing and spring hat Kirk, What's it look like? p/n. My guess is I may have one laying around. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:34 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] <WTB> Washer between strut bearing and spring hat Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:25:13 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] <WTB> Washer between strut bearing and spring hat I was able to order these with no problem. Be warned: they are expensive...hahaha. Chester --- Kirk Lachman <admranger@earthlink.net> wrote: > Second one was a new one for me, broken washer that goes between the > bottom of the strut bearing and the top of the spring perch hat. Anyone have one? > > It's a dealer only item and the last time I tried to order a special > part from the dealer, I swore it was the last time I'd do that! Local > dealer parts guy was a disaster (I even gave him the part number and > you'd thought I'd asked for his arm the hassle I got ordering the > part). Never did get that part from them... ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.24/592 - Release Date: 12/18/2006 1:45 PM

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#10. RE: [E36M3]  Washer between strut bearing and spring hat - from Mike Frank
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:54:43 -0500 From: "Mike Frank" <mfrank28@insightbb.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] <WTB> Washer between strut bearing and spring hat Kirk, This seems to be pretty common. The last couple of times I've had the front apart they were both broken into several pieces. In fact, I'd bet the ones on my car right now are broken. :) For what they cost they should be stronger. I have substituted standard washers in a pinch. I think I used two on each side (different sizes) to mimic the shape of the "special" washers. They worked great and didn't break. FYI, I had no problem ordering these from my local dealer. Considering the cost, you might actually save money ordering from a discount dealer (or one of the list members that sells parts) and having them shipped. HTH, Mike Frank 97 M3 > -----Original Message----- > From: Kirk Lachman [mailto:admranger@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:04 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] <WTB> Washer between strut bearing and spring hat > > Second one was a new one for me, broken washer that goes between the > bottom of the strut bearing and the top of the spring perch hat. Anyone > have one? > > It's a dealer only item and the last time I tried to order a special part > from the dealer, I swore it was the last time I'd do that! Local dealer > parts guy was a disaster (I even gave him the part number and you'd > thought I'd asked for his arm the hassle I got ordering the part). Never > did get that part from them... > > Thanks, > > Kirk Lachman > Sin City Chapter > '95 M3 #21 I-stock -- in pieces

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