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#1. Re: [E36M3] 95 questions - from David Bauer
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 05:00:54 -0800 (PST) From: David Bauer <dbauer@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 95 questions Hi Jeff, I have a 4/94 and haven't had any of the problems you mention though I don't track it. I haven't had any problems with the valve retainers either. Dave 95 M3 - hope I didn't just jinx it
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#2. Re: 335i Follow Up - Diffs - from Steve Klein
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:49:13 -0600 From: Steve Klein <s.klein@steveklein.cc> Subject: Re: 335i Follow Up - Diffs Have you also tried Jim Blanton at Performance Gearing? (www.performancegearing.com) He can build a diff. to your taste and may be priced a little better. On Dec 21, 2006, at 5:14 AM, dhogg wrote: > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 06:11:22 -0500 > From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> > Subject: 335i Follow Up - Diffs > > To put a punctuation mark on this thread, I'm posting the info that > I got > from Diffs On Line. I don't know specific lock-up info, but here's > what I > learned from Dan: > > > > So, have you come up with a proper LSD for this car yet? BTW, I'd > leave the > gearing alone for us civilian types. > > I do have a unit available for the car, it is $3195 with the stock > ratio. I > can either build in yours or do a core exchange. The core would be > the same > amount BMW charges me for a brand new unit. > > Would your unit work with BMW's electronic traction/stability/ > etc.gizmo's or > would they be permanently off? Or would it just be the DSC that > would be > permanently off? > > My unit works perfectly with the DSC. Basically it is the same as > how the > M3s work with DSC and LSD. Together they will ensure that you have > the most > traction. DSC is still switched off jus the same. > > > > It sounds as if turbos are in my future. Now, what happens to the > beautiful > Alpenweiss M3/4 when I finally do this? > > > > Dave Hogg
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#3. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Re: 335i Follow Up - Diffs - from Marco
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:01:12 -0800 From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Re: 335i Follow Up - Diffs http://www.koalamotorsport.com/diffs.asp Does a great job. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Klein [mailto:s.klein@steveklein.cc] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 7:54 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] Re: 335i Follow Up - Diffs Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:49:13 -0600 From: Steve Klein <s.klein@steveklein.cc> Subject: Re: 335i Follow Up - Diffs Have you also tried Jim Blanton at Performance Gearing? (www.performancegearing.com) He can build a diff. to your taste and may be priced a little better. On Dec 21, 2006, at 5:14 AM, dhogg wrote: > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 06:11:22 -0500 > From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> > Subject: 335i Follow Up - Diffs > > To put a punctuation mark on this thread, I'm posting the info that > I got > from Diffs On Line. I don't know specific lock-up info, but here's > what I > learned from Dan: > > > > So, have you come up with a proper LSD for this car yet? BTW, I'd > leave the > gearing alone for us civilian types. > > I do have a unit available for the car, it is $3195 with the stock > ratio. I > can either build in yours or do a core exchange. The core would be > the same > amount BMW charges me for a brand new unit. > > Would your unit work with BMW's electronic traction/stability/ > etc.gizmo's or > would they be permanently off? Or would it just be the DSC that > would be > permanently off? > > My unit works perfectly with the DSC. Basically it is the same as > how the > M3s work with DSC and LSD. Together they will ensure that you have > the most > traction. DSC is still switched off jus the same. > > > > It sounds as if turbos are in my future. Now, what happens to the > beautiful > Alpenweiss M3/4 when I finally do this? > > > > Dave Hogg ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date: 12/20/2006 3:54 PM
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#4. Re: [E36M3] 95 questions - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:04:42 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 95 questions On Wed, December 20, 2006 9:24 pm, LoweSeaton@aol.com said: > No such problems with any E36 M3. The M3's (including all '95's) rear > subframe mounts are reinforced compared to the standard E36 models. Correct. > And > the head > gasket is not a problem. Sorry, Lowell, gotta agree with Marco on this. On a seriously tracked or raced '95 M3, it's "if" but "when" you'll be replacing the head gasket. At one point a few years back, Bill Arnold had *3* '95 M3s in his shop at the same time - all for head gaskets. And I know of at least 3 other local ones that have gone through a head gasket in the course of their racing life. It may not be an issue for a street car, or one that's occasionally tracked, but for the use that Jeff is going to put his through, it'll happen. Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP
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#5. Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from m3 drvr
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:29:03 -0500 From: "m3 drvr" <m3bro@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? Ok Jamie, you have pretty much scared me off of a E39 M5! Now it is either a CTS-V (I know I am speaking a sin) or 335i. Clyde >From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> >Reply-To: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> >To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 06:23:56 -0600 > >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 06:21:37 -0600 >From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? > >>Are you saying that an M5 would cost about $4k - $6k a year for repairs? > >No. I am saying that I don't know what an M5 would cost you to >maintain if you bought one; mine cost almost $18K to maintain during >the 21 months I owned it. That works out to $857/month or >$10,285/year. > >-- >Jamie Howton >2006 M Roadster >2004 645Ci >1995 M3 >Hampshire, IL > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > _________________________________________________________________ Get live scores and news about your team: Add the Live.com Football Page www.live.com/?addtemplate=football&icid=T001MSN30A0701
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#6. Apology - OT - from dhogg
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:32:10 -0500 From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> Subject: Apology - OT Sorry for the spam I inadvertently sent yesterday. Gotta be more awake when I do this. Dave Hogg
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#7. Re: [E36M3] to 335i? Slighty OT - from Jay G
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:29:46 -1000 From: Jay G <jguzman@hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i? Slighty OT it is amazing...i took mine out for it's first auto-x last sunday...too much torque- just ended up spinning tires all over the place (i was used to the m3 (OBMWC) on r-compounds)...gonna try and run the entire course in 2nd gear next race to kill off some torque... dhogg wrote: > Sorry for this, just wanted to get your new emails into my list > > The new Z06 is just simply amazing. I hope you took some video of the > laps... >
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#8. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] 95 questions - from Marco
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:50:37 -0800 From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] 95 questions Jim is correct - for a street car or moderately tracked M3 the head gasket will probably last a long time. But I do not know of a 95 that is actively raced that has not blown a head gasket. Well mine didn't, but I proactively replaced it. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:14 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] 95 questions Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:04:42 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 95 questions On Wed, December 20, 2006 9:24 pm, LoweSeaton@aol.com said: > No such problems with any E36 M3. The M3's (including all '95's) rear > subframe mounts are reinforced compared to the standard E36 models. Correct. > And > the head > gasket is not a problem. Sorry, Lowell, gotta agree with Marco on this. On a seriously tracked or raced '95 M3, it's "if" but "when" you'll be replacing the head gasket. At one point a few years back, Bill Arnold had *3* '95 M3s in his shop at the same time - all for head gaskets. And I know of at least 3 other local ones that have gone through a head gasket in the course of their racing life. It may not be an issue for a street car, or one that's occasionally tracked, but for the use that Jeff is going to put his through, it'll happen. Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date: 12/20/2006 3:54 PM
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#9. Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from Scott M
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:22:12 -0800 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? OK - I had a CTS-V for a year too. Yes, there are *some* cars that I haven't owned yet. just give me time :-) I would not recommend it. The power is great, the chassis is very well done and the brakes are superb. By all merits it is a crisper performer to the E39 M5 (which I also owned so I am qualified to compare the two). And of course I owned a E36 M3/4 for awhile too - 2.5 years for that one. I've had all 3 on the road course. The M3 is of course the charmer - don't need to tell this list that. And the M5 is an understeering pig that feels very heavy and under-braked, all-in-all not well suited to a road course at all. The CTSV was actually a big surprise - it was very capable on the track, and the brakes are fully capable of handling 30min 80% sessions no problem - stock with ATE fluid. 6 piston brembos just work. GM got it all very right with this car. But.... (and you knew there would be one) It's a GM. Fit and finish and interior appointments, while nice for a GM - are miles away from BMW standards. And of course, being GM - the bean-counters got involved and they forced the engineers to cut a few corners. The big corner they cut was in the rear diff. Made by Getrag of all the ironic companies. But the problem is, the rear was spec'ed for the standard sub 300hp V6, I think it is rated by getrag at 350lb- ft. Of course the LS6 / LS2 make over 400. So that is a problem. At least it has a posi tho. My car went to a buddy of mine who assumed my lease. He ended up having so many problems with the car he got GM to buy it back on a lemon law - which wasn't easy btw. The car developed this vibration. They replaced the trans, driveshaft, rear end, the tires, basically everything and it didn't go away. It got better, but didn't go away. Not engine related because it was speed dependent, not RPM related at all. And the dealers really don't know how to deal with a performance car either - simply not used to it. So few V's are made they don't get much experience with it either. So while the CTSV is a very nice and noble effort by GM, it leaves a lot to be desired. It is one of those "so close" cars. like the chick with the hot body and face and great personality and then you find out she is addicted to drugs or something. You want it to work because almost everything is there, but then there is that big deal breaker..... So the only way I would recommend the CTSV is on a 24-36 month lease and plan to drive it hard and turn it in wet when you are done with her. And only if you can live with the possibility of spending major time at a dealer that is hit or miss with customer service, and you don't mind the plasticy interior and GM quality levels. After-all, sometimes it can be fun and exciting to have a short fling with the hot chick who is on drugs. Just don't get her pregnant.... Scott On Dec 21, 2006, at 5:33 PM, m3 drvr wrote: > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:29:03 -0500 > From: "m3 drvr" <m3bro@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? > > Ok Jamie, you have pretty much scared me off of a E39 M5! > > Now it is either a CTS-V (I know I am speaking a sin) or 335i. > > Clyde > > >> From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> >> Reply-To: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> >> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? >> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 06:23:56 -0600 >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 06:21:37 -0600 >> From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? >> >>> Are you saying that an M5 would cost about $4k - $6k a year for >>> repairs? >> >> No. I am saying that I don't know what an M5 would cost you to >> maintain if you bought one; mine cost almost $18K to maintain during >> the 21 months I owned it. That works out to $857/month or >> $10,285/year. >> >> -- >> Jamie Howton >> 2006 M Roadster >> 2004 645Ci >> 1995 M3 >> Hampshire, IL >> >> >> ************************************************* >> Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >> >> Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >> Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >> Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >> Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >> Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >> Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com >> >> DIGEST INFORMATION: >> http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >> ************************************************* >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get live scores and news about your team: Add the Live.com Football > Page www.live.com/?addtemplate=football&icid=T001MSN30A0701 > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#10. RE: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? - from Mike Frank
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:09:09 -0500 From: "Mike Frank" <mfrank28@insightbb.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] to 335i or not to 335i? I enjoyed the entire message, but the last part was icing... Thank you. Mike Frank 97 M3 > It is one of those "so close" cars. like the > chick with the hot body and face and great personality and then you > find out she is addicted to drugs or something. You want it to work > because almost everything is there, but then there is that big deal > breaker..... Snip > After-all, sometimes it can be fun and exciting to have a short fling > with the hot chick who is on drugs. Just don't get her pregnant....