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#1. Re: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks - from cteague@cox.net
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:48:16 -0500 From: <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks Graeme, I use the ground-control ones, and they work fine. Chris ---- "Weston-Lewis wrote: > > > I'm finally getting around to installing my Koni D/A's and found that > both my stock droplinks are in very poor shape. Any recommendations for > an adjustale droplink? Any that you have tried and would no buy again? > Turner has a great price on replacement stock droplinks (~$23), but > their adjustable ones are scary (~$100). I know I only need one and > will only be buying one adjustable and one stock replacement. >
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks - from Weston-Lewis, Graeme
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:01:35 -0700 From: "Weston-Lewis, Graeme" <Graeme.Weston-Lewis@lsi.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks Turner recommends purchasing only 1 adjustable link and I agree. It's only there to remove any preload on the swaybar. Since the swaybar floats on the mounts, why would you need 2? G --------- Please note, my email address has changed to graeme.weston-lewis@lsi.com (note the domain change from lsil to lsi). Effective January 15, 2007, no other e-mail addresses for me will be accepted by our corporate mail server. Please update your address book and distribution lists accordingly. --------- -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA [mailto:Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:36 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:30:27 -0600 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks Unless I misunderstood your post, mixing links left vs. right sounds like a bad idea to me. -----Original Message----- From: Weston-Lewis, Graeme [mailto:Graeme.Weston-Lewis@lsi.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:25 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:22:52 -0700 From: "Weston-Lewis, Graeme" <Graeme.Weston-Lewis@lsi.com> Subject: Adjustable front droplinks I'm finally getting around to installing my Koni D/A's and found that both my stock droplinks are in very poor shape. Any recommendations for an adjustale droplink? Any that you have tried and would no buy again? Turner has a great price on replacement stock droplinks (~$23), but their adjustable ones are scary (~$100). I know I only need one and will only be buying one adjustable and one stock replacement. TIA and happy new year, Graeme --------- Please note, my email address has changed to graeme.weston-lewis@lsi.com (note the domain change from lsil to lsi). Effective January 15, 2007, no other e-mail addresses for me will be accepted by our corporate mail server. Please update your address book and distribution lists accordingly. --------- ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#3. Re: Adjustable front droplinks - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:18:26 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Adjustable front droplinks on 1/2/07 3:55 PM, "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > Graeme: I am only aware of the Turner ones - I have the same config (1 > adjust, 1 stock) on the race car. Ground Control has nice adjustable links for about $120 the pair. Get 'em from Bimmerworld. Yes you don't need two adjustable ones, but if you're replacing worn out stock links anyway... BTW in my experience the stock links last much longer than aftermarket, maybe because the stock ones have rubber seals to keep the lube in and the dirt out? Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD
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#4. RE: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:21:54 -0600 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks What I meant was, I 'myself' would have a hard time using different links (old/new companyA/CompanyB) left vs right as the durometer of the rubber or poly bushing (assuming its not a hard metal to metal joint) might be different from side to side between different suppliers. I would be fine using two different links from the same supplier after verifying that if a bushing material is used they are of the same level of hardness, (durometer, squeeze, whatever you want to call it). I agree on the preload comment. I had a metal metal adjustable link on a previous car and it was only necessary to adjust one side when setting it up. When I asked why both, I was told adjustability times 2 was helpful in the event the car was significantly lowered. Sounded cool at the time but now sounds like more a price inflator. Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Weston-Lewis, Graeme [mailto:Graeme.Weston-Lewis@lsi.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:06 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:01:35 -0700 From: "Weston-Lewis, Graeme" <Graeme.Weston-Lewis@lsi.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks Turner recommends purchasing only 1 adjustable link and I agree. It's only there to remove any preload on the swaybar. Since the swaybar floats on the mounts, why would you need 2? G --------- Please note, my email address has changed to graeme.weston-lewis@lsi.com (note the domain change from lsil to lsi). Effective January 15, 2007, no other e-mail addresses for me will be accepted by our corporate mail server. Please update your address book and distribution lists accordingly. --------- -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA [mailto:Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:36 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:30:27 -0600 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks Unless I misunderstood your post, mixing links left vs. right sounds like a bad idea to me. -----Original Message----- From: Weston-Lewis, Graeme [mailto:Graeme.Weston-Lewis@lsi.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:25 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:22:52 -0700 From: "Weston-Lewis, Graeme" <Graeme.Weston-Lewis@lsi.com> Subject: Adjustable front droplinks I'm finally getting around to installing my Koni D/A's and found that both my stock droplinks are in very poor shape. Any recommendations for an adjustale droplink? Any that you have tried and would no buy again? Turner has a great price on replacement stock droplinks (~$23), but their adjustable ones are scary (~$100). I know I only need one and will only be buying one adjustable and one stock replacement. TIA and happy new year, Graeme --------- Please note, my email address has changed to graeme.weston-lewis@lsi.com (note the domain change from lsil to lsi). Effective January 15, 2007, no other e-mail addresses for me will be accepted by our corporate mail server. Please update your address book and distribution lists accordingly. --------- ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#5. RE: High Performance Cats - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:28:32 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: High Performance Cats I have no experience but this one sure has my interest. The only concern for me would be the efficiency of any generic cat verses the factory - OBDII sniffers considered. http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category_10001_10002_11917 4_-1_10251 I applaud your environmental concerns. Folks around here purchase three day 'trip permits' from Washington State Dept of Motor Vehicles and skip the WASDOT testing/compliance. KLB -------------------- 2 -------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 13:26:21 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: High Performance Cats Have any of you on the list tied high performance racing cats? We're looking at one of these for a friend's racecar that gets driven to the track. Here's one example: <http://stores.channeladvisor.com/verociousmotorsports/items/item.aspx?i temid=3535414> of which two would be required for an M3. And another: <http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category_10001_10002_1025 1_-1_10245> Fitting any of these would require cutting the stock cats out and welding in the new ones, but that's not rocket science. Potential advantages would seem to include weight reduction and reduced exhaust restriction while still retaining the ability for street driven cars to pass emissions testing (as opposed to fitting a so-called track pipe). Expense doesn't seem unreasonable. It ought to be possible to buy a pair and have them welded in by a muffler shop for around $400. For comparison a DEC bolt-in original pattern replacement cat section runs about $500. So, anyone? Neil Fort Wayne, IN
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks - from docwyte@comcast.net
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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:19:48 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: RE: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks Ah, but if you have coilovers, Turner wants you to have two, one on either end. I can't remember their reasoning now, but that's what they told me when I had my car in their shop a few years back. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Weston-Lewis, Graeme" <Graeme.Weston-Lewis@lsi.com> > Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:01:35 -0700 > From: "Weston-Lewis, Graeme" > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks > > Turner recommends purchasing only 1 adjustable link and I agree. It's > only there to remove any preload on the swaybar. Since the swaybar > floats on the mounts, why would you need 2? > G > >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] picking bmw laser cut keys - from David Thomas
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:26:38 -0800 From: David Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] picking bmw laser cut keys On Tuesday 02 January 2007 9:25 am, Mpower wrote: > I have a 7/95 build, so I don't have laser cut keys or EWS. But I do have > full coverage insurance. =P Your car does have EWS...."EWS-II". I think they all started to get EWS after 12-94. Dave
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#8. Re: [E36M3] still wanna CTSV? - from Ivan Petrov
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:40:11 -0800 From: "Ivan Petrov" <crazyinp@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] still wanna CTSV? Link doesn't work for me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott McClung" <smlists@pacbell.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:25 PM Subject: [E36M3] still wanna CTSV? > Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:25:12 -0800 (PST) > From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> > Subject: still wanna CTSV? > > Watch this - might change your mind. If nothing else, it is just > hilarious - this guy is a riot. > > My favorite line: "I have to pee like a 9-dick dog...." > > haha. > > > http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2421093d-d063-4ea5-89b3-98a500aa04d9..htm > > Scott > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks - from Dave Heckendorf
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:50:02 -0800 From: "Dave Heckendorf" <daveheckendorf@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks So you can get the weight distribution "just right" during corner-balancing... ;) Dave On 1/2/07, docwyte@comcast.net <docwyte@comcast.net> wrote: > Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:19:48 +0000 > From: docwyte@comcast.net > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks > > Ah, but if you have coilovers, Turner wants you to have two, one on either end. I can't remember their reasoning now, but that's what they told me when I had my car in their shop a few years back.
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks - from Jay Hudson
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:55:43 -0800 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks I can think of a couple of reasons you might want both adjustable endlinks. Neither is a big deal. 1) Ease of adjustment. You can do it from either side. 2) You can adust the sway bar to be in the position you want it. I don't remember what the OEM bar is like but my RD bar has a big drop down between the 2 mounting points. If the bar ends are too high, that drop down will come in contact with the power steering hose (trombone)/steering rack. Being able to adjust the length of the endlinks allows you to position it where you want it. Having only one adjustable endlink would not allow that. You'd be limited by the length of the non-adjustable OEM link. Jay Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:01:35 -0700 From: "Weston-Lewis, Graeme" <Graeme.Weston-Lewis@lsi.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Adjustable front droplinks Turner recommends purchasing only 1 adjustable link and I agree. It's only there to remove any preload on the swaybar. Since the swaybar floats on the mounts, why would you need 2? G
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#11. Key Tool Posting - from Foley, Brian
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 17:58:14 -0500 From: "Foley, Brian" <bfoley@cmpd.org> Subject: Key Tool Posting Thanks for the posting on the key tool. I passed this on to the auto theft guys at the agency where I work. The only things I can see that will somewhat protect us are that the market cost of the tool is high(900 Euro or just under a grand US$) and the lengthy time it takes to decode the lock and make the skeleton key. A regular car thief would just break a window and hotwire the vehicle (which is difficult without the chipped key). Brian Foley '97 M3/4