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#1. Cams - from John Cloutier
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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:02:42 -0500 From: John Cloutier <avusm3@gmail.com> Subject: Cams Pat - I've had good luck with the Schricks in my 3.0l car. They are pretty much plug and play. You just need to make sure the VANOS advance is timed right. Dyno info here: http://home.comcast.net/~avusm3/ I came out with 241rwhp and 222lbs-ft. A friend a mine installed the Sunbelts in another '95 M3 and came up with 235rwhp using the same mods, but his car was 40k miles older than mine. I'm probably a little conservative, but I shift at 6800rpm to avoid any valve float. The nice thing about the Schricks is that they give you a nice bump in HP and torque. John avusm3@gmail.com Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:37:55 -0500 From: "Patrick Kelly" <pkelly@agincourtcapital.com> Subject: Sunbelt Cams Wow Martin, this is not good. I was "this close" to ordering the Sunbelts... Could this be attributed to an improperly timed VANOS? I thought the Sunbelts and the chip were all sorted out. I would love to hear from somebody from Bimmerworld on this. Pat Kelly 95M3 pkelly@agincourtcapital.com
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#2. Carfax request - from Rick Cooke
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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:27:05 -0500 From: "Rick Cooke" <rickcooke@rcn.com> Subject: Carfax request 3vwfb81h4wm245300 Reply privately please. Thanks, Rick Cooke
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#3. Re: [E36M3] [FS] Sparco 5-point harness - from loweseaton@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:58:04 -0500 From: loweseaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] [FS] Sparco 5-point harness Jim, Just busting your chops but if these belts are "expired", does that mean they are not safe? Should you be selling them? Or pitching them in the trash? On a more serious note, I have a set of Schroth 4-point click in belts that are probably 2002 production. The driver's belt has been used twice and the passenger's set zero. Are you telling me my Schroth belts are junk and I need to buy new? Lowell Seaton '95 M3 - yes it has been a long time since my last DE -----Original Message----- From: jim@jimbassett.com To: e36m3@bmw-m.net Sent: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:34 PM Subject: [E36M3] [FS] Sparco 5-point harness Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:31:12 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: [FS] Sparco 5-point harness I'm selling the "expired" 5-point harness from the race car. $75 shipped. Ad here: http://www.justracing.com/classified/374 or here: http://www.jimbassett.com/Harn4sale.html Thanks, Jim Bassett ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
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#4. RE: Two Questions - from kim.burgess@att.net
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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 23:12:05 +0000 From: kim.burgess@att.net Subject: RE: Two Questions Right. I run 235/40R17 RA-1s on 7.5 all around and know a lot of people that do also. I looked up a PS2 just for fun. You only loose .30 inches from axle to ground and get an increase of .60 inches of section width (measured on an 8" wheel) moving from a 225/45 to a 235/40, though this tire is not recommended on a 7.5 inch wheel. 225/45 ZR17 suggested rim 7-8.5" measured rim 7.5" section 8.9" dia 25.0" rpms 833 235/40 ZR17 suggested rim 8-9.5" measured rim 8.5" section 9.5” dia 24.4" rpms 852 245/40 ZR17 suggested rim 8-9.5" measured rim 8.5" section 9.8" dia 24.7" rpms 841 and a 235/45 is too tall 235/45 ZR17 suggested rim 7.5-9" measured rim 8.0" section 9.3" dia 25.4" rpms 820 KLB -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:34:33 -0500 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] two questions 2/5/07, Tom Yee <tomgsr@hotmail.com> wrote: > First, I tried to post this a week or two ago but didn't see it come > through. If I missed it (don't recall replies, either), I apologize in > advance. I am thinking about running 235/40s on 17x7.5 rims. 95 M3 Lightweights came with that exact combination, staggered rims but with 235/40s mounted all around. It works. Now depending on the rims, if for example you had the bend like butter 95 M3 rims then with 235/40s they will...... wait for it..... bend like butter. :-P At least that was one reason for going to higher sidewalls in the later cars. Your call to make, Carlos 98 M3 with staggered wheels and tires on the forged polished rims. :-/ Would prefer all 8.5s and non-staggered tires. :-)
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#5. FS: BMW M3 IP Race Car - $25k - from Peter Vinsel
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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:29:07 -0800 From: "Peter Vinsel" <pcvinsel@pacbell.net> Subject: FS: BMW M3 IP Race Car - $25k http://www.justracing.com/classified/376 Let me know if anyone is interested, Peter
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#6. Re: [E36M3] [FS] Sparco 5-point harness - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:47:50 -0500 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] [FS] Sparco 5-point harness On 2/5/07, loweseaton@aol.com <loweseaton@aol.com> wrote: >Just busting your chops but if these belts are "expired", does that mean they are >not safe? Should you be selling them? Or pitching them in the trash? No, it means sell them to a DE type cheap where they don't care how old the belts are. Or maybe some chapters do care who knows. By expired he means he wouldn't be allowed to race with those if he shows up to a race this year with those belts mounted. SFI expires after two years, FIA would last 5 years. His were marked '04 so at the end of '06 they were done for racing purposes. I do like the blue and red assortment. ;-) >On a more serious note, I have a set of Schroth 4-point click in belts that are >probably 2002 production. The driver's belt has been used twice and the >passenger's set zero. Are you telling me my Schroth belts are junk and I need to >buy new? Some clubs don't allow 4 points so you wouldn't be able to wear them anyway. I was not allowed to use mine at a drag strip last year, I had to wear my stock 3 point belts. Schroth 4 points don't have a date or any cert stickers so places that care about that stuff won't let you use them. You (and everyone else for that matter) knows all the arguments for using 4 points but if a club bans them then that's that. Carlos.
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#7. Re: Sunbelt Cams - from Martin Bullen
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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:13:15 -0500 From: Martin Bullen <vze322dw@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Sunbelt Cams Pat, It's possible, but it was installed, checked at installation, then checked again by a very knowledgeable independent BMW tech. I know Chester can point to how easy it is to mess up the VANOS timing; I guess it's one of those things to check again. The frustration is in a complex system, with multiple simultaneous changes, being faced with trying to debug a problem like this. I'd be thrilled to get some knowledgeable substantive direction, rather than speculation, on where to go with this. That's why I'm thinking someone like Chuck Stickley, but I'm a little gun shy about the potential cost. I guess it's the logical next step, however (unless Chester wants to drop by Philly and check my VANOS? Hmm, that sounds too kinky for me). As it is, I feel somewhat caught in the middle: James Clay says it should work, but ditch the '95 cats to get full benefit of the upgrade and meet the advertised numbers. IMHO, that may help, but it's not the root cause. The tech says it was put together fine, and checked his work at no charge (and yes, I do trust him). Logically, I need to bite the bullet with a knowledgeable independent third party. Either way, until it's resolved, I can only relate my experience, and not recommend the Sunbelt package. YMMV. Martin On Feb 5, 2007, at 1:44 PM, E36M3 wrote: > Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:37:55 -0500 > From: "Patrick Kelly" <pkelly@agincourtcapital.com> > Subject: Sunbelt Cams > > Wow Martin, this is not good. I was "this close" to ordering the > Sunbelts... > > Could this be attributed to an improperly timed VANOS? I thought the > Sunbelts and the chip were all sorted out. > > I would love to hear from somebody from Bimmerworld on this. > > Pat Kelly > 95M3 > > pkelly@agincourtcapital.com > > >> -------------------- 8 -------------------- >> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 09:24:22 -0500 >> From: carguy <carguymb@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Retainers, Cams, and....? >> >> I have the Sunbelts, and am generally not a happy camper. >> Professionally installed (and checked), with the off-the-shelf >> programming that's part of the Bimmerworld kit, there's a nasty 25hp >> dip in hp and torque right around 5,000-5,500 revs (I have the dyno >> chart to show it). While the absolute hp is higher (but nothing like >> 300hp on my car; closer to 270 at the crank), the messed up output >> curves make on-track performance little different. For example, I >> drive on the big track at Summit Point quite often. If we assume >> that the final turn onto the long front straight is a control to my >> speed entering the straight (cornering speed would be the same, >> irrespective of horsepower), then a more powerful car should achieve >> a measurably faster top end in what's essentially a drag race, >> assuming all other things being equal. However, with the engine work >> being the only substantive change, the car was essentially no faster, >> based on maximum speed as noted at the at the braking point (and no, >> I don't lift until I brake). By contrast, I jumped into a student's >> E46 M3, with no engine mods, and was instantly 10mph faster down the >> straight, without even trying.... (i.e. it's not my driving that's >> the problem) >> >> FWIW, the car also has fan delete, underdrive pulleys, shorty headers >> (also from Bimmerworld and installed at the same time), ported and >> polished head and cat-back UCC exhaust. The baseline, prior to the >> cams, was the fan delete, underdrive pulleys, Conforti chip and K&N >> cone filter. If we assume (a dangerous thing to do, I know) say >> 250hp at the crank as the baseline (I don't have a dyno reading; >> these mods occurred after a head gasket issue at VIR), then a lot of >> parts, work and money netted me 20hp at the top end, but a 5hp >> reduction in the meat of the rev range.... >> >> I don't think I'm alone in having this problem. From what I've read >> on various boards, to make the Sunbelts work properly, you will often >> need to do some combination of futz with the cam timing and get a >> custom-programmed chip, and spend a lot of time on the dyno. I've >> spent a lot of money already on this "upgrade", and from a practical >> perspective ended up exactly where I started. And to get close to >> advertised numbers, I'll likely have to dump a bunch more money with >> the someone like Chuck Stickley to get it all to work as advertised. >> >> I'm not dissing James and Bimmerworld; they're good people, with this >> exception I'm a satisfied customer, and I still buy stuff there, but >> let's just politely say that, in my experience, estimates of the >> performance from the Sunbelt cams have been greatly exaggerated. >> >> Martin Bullen >> '95 M3 >> '97 Z3 2.8 >> '01 740i Sport
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Sunbelt Cams - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 21:09:13 -0500 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Sunbelt Cams On 2/5/07, Martin Bullen <vze322dw@verizon.net> wrote: > The frustration is in a complex system, with multiple simultaneous > changes, being faced with trying to debug a problem like this. I'd > be thrilled to get some knowledgeable substantive direction, rather > than speculation, on where to go with this. That's why I'm thinking > someone like Chuck Stickley, but I'm a little gun shy about the > potential cost. I guess it's the logical next step, however (unless > Chester wants to drop by Philly and check my VANOS? Hmm, that sounds > too kinky for me). How far is Mike Yaskin (Bavarian Specialties?) in King of Prussia from you? I've seen him wrench trackside on some really fast S50 motors so I'd think he knows a thing or two about timing the cams in those cars. Just another suggestion... Carlos. 98 M3
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#9. RSMs - from Brian Ruiz
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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:14:09 -0800 From: "Brian Ruiz" <eurowerke@gmail.com> Subject: RSMs Hey all, Does anyone have the skinny on the Rogue vs GC RSMs? They both look good, I can't seem to decide. GC's say they have a lifetime warranty, but the Rogue units seem to have fewer parts (or is it just that the GC unit comes with new upper and lower washers because of a change in bushing design?) The price difference is minimal, so that's no big deal, and I do know Rogue sponsors the list, but I just was wondering what the *real* differences are been between the two. Thanks guys, Brian build 8/95
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#10. Re: [E36M3] [FS] Sparco 5-point harness - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 21:28:50 EST From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] [FS] Sparco 5-point harness In a message dated 2/5/07 7:04:57 PM Central Standard Time, clopez98m3@gmail.com writes: No, it means sell them to a DE type cheap where they don't care how old the belts are. Or maybe some chapters do care who knows. By expired he means he wouldn't be allowed to race with those if he shows up to a race this year with those belts mounted. SFI expires after two years, FIA would last 5 years. His were marked '04 so at the end of '06 they were done for racing purposes. ---------------------------------------------------------- Carlos, Thanks for your explanation but I'm afraid you didn't answer my question - sorry I wasn't clear. My question is "Why are 2-year old belts disallowed?" Do seat belts deteriorate over time? Are 2+ year old belts likely to fail in an impact? If it is proven that 2+ year old seat belts are likely to fail in an impact, that is news to me and very worrisome. I certainly do NOT want a seat belt to fail during a DE. If old belts are unsafe, then I'll buy new ones. But then it makes you wonder about the seat belts in street cars. What about my 1995 M3? They are nearly 12 years old. Should we all be replacing our seat belts in our street cars every 2 years? Lowell Seaton '95 M3