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#1. RE: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:04:50 -0500 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) I financed my M3 purchase with a home equity loan. The rate was much better than a car loan and the interest is tax-deductible. There is a bit more paperwork, and it takes longer to process. In my case, the bank's loan rate was dependant on the age of the car. Paul Andrews 98 M3/4 # 42 STU -----Original Message----- From: Jack - Elephant Motorsports [mailto:jack@elephantmotorsports.com] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:24 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:15:34 -0500 From: "Jack - Elephant Motorsports" <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) This is highly bank dependant. My bank is extremely flexible (though less so in the last year) when it comes to this stuff but in general most of the time it is still going to come down to the "retail" value. If you're lucky, and you need it/want to do it, perhaps you can purchase a vehicle when the market price is dropping quicker than book retail can keep up, then you can borrow more than you spend. Course the danger there is that if the car gets totaled you end up owing more than the insurance company will pay. Lots of variables though, certainly lots of risks too. Jack Money
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#2. Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:11:33 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) on 2/8/07 1:54 PM, Hans Batra <hansbatra@yahoo.com> wrote: > My idea of a relatively affordable fleet: the 1979 > 911 SC and this 95 M3 in question. Total outlay: > $28.5K. New loaded V6 Honda Accord: $30K. I'll > take the 911 and the M3 combo, thank you very much. That is pretty funny: my new loaded Mini Cooper S cost $29K and change two years ago. On the other hand I haven't had to do a thing to it except for normal consumables. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD
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#3. Re: Anyone install Turner Shorty Headers? - from Lawrence Barbieri
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:12:53 -0500 From: "Lawrence Barbieri" <larry@logicalconclusions.com> Subject: Re: Anyone install Turner Shorty Headers? Whoops! Sorry Neil (and company). This is a 1995 OBDI car. So, no secondary air injection manifold to deal with. - Larry > They'll be significantly harder to install if you have a 96+, since there's > the secondary air injection manifold to deal with. My crystal balls are in > winter storage and you didn't say, so...? > Neil > Fort Wayne, IN > 96 M3 - Shorty headers > 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic > 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD -- Lawrence Barbieri Logical Conclusions 96 Blanchette Dr. Marlborough, MA 01752 larry@logicalconclusions.com
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#4. Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) - from Carl Stern
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:46:25 -0700 From: Carl Stern <carl.stern@xilinx.com> Subject: Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) I may as well throw in my opinion. What would turn me off is the "track pipe". I assume this means you have no cat? This means illegal to most folks, not passing emissions, and a several hundred dollar outlay to do so. If it doesn't mean no cat than you should clarify what it is. I also agree with the winter issue. My car hasn't even been started in over a month! BTW, I have a 95 M3 with 50k miles. I'd like to think it is still worth $15-$17k. Carl
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#5. Re: Anyone install Turner Shorty Headers? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:25:27 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Anyone install Turner Shorty Headers? on 2/8/07 2:12 PM, Lawrence Barbieri at larry@logicalconclusions.com wrote: > This is a 1995 OBDI car. So, no secondary air injection manifold to deal > with. Well that'll help you out at least. I have the Jet-Hot Shorty Headers from Bimmerworld which are similar to the Turners in layout. Due to the very tight access to some of the studs and my 96's secondary air manifold being in the way they weren't that easy to install - even with the head off and on the bench. You should be able to do the R&R in a combination of working from above and below. You'll want a good assortment of small tools (e.g. 1/4" drive) including wobble and universal drive adapters. Be prepared for some of the studs unscrewing from the head on disassembly. Don't look for huge gains from the headers though, plus consider the recent thread concerning other bottlenecks in the 95 M3 exhaust system. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) - from Kirk Lachman
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:54:38 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Kirk Lachman <admranger@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) Patrick Goss wrote: >What??? people don't like red? Why??????????? >97 M3/4 hellrot >90 crx some sort of faded red >88 wagoneer, red/maroon base >68 t-bird red and rust >Prior car: >95 integra - millano red I concur w/Patrick. Current fleet: '95 M3 #21 I-stock (hellrot under all the stickers) '02 M3 in Imola red '96 Ford F350 Crewcab Dually Diesel in Cardinal Red (try finding a red Ford diesel dually, go ahead, try!) Previous: '03 330 ZHP in imola red '96 Z3 2.8 in brilliant red (I think...) '94 530i (5-speed manual) in brilliant red They don't call it resale red for nuthin'! In addition: Red 'N' on L&R sides of helmet. Cheers, Kirk
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 13:06:24 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) hmmm - sounds like a good "business opportunity".... :-) Scott --- Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:37:51 -0800 > From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback > please) > > At 07:34 PM 2/7/2007, Tucker Ryals wrote: > >The majority of opinions seem to be that the car is > >priced right, but winter is hurting. However, > several > >folks, Dave included, told me about '95's they > bought > >both recently and some years ago for less money. > > I have bought and sold a couple M3's and one thing > that I have > noticed is that local metro area you are in has a > strong influence on > pricing. The San Francisco Bay Area seems to be > about 20% more > expensive than other "normal" E36 M3 markets. I > have observed this > as a buyer and a seller. Which is why I knew if I > wanted a clean low > mileage M3 sedan for under the high teens then I was > going to have travel. > > Rex > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:19:43 -0600 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) Thanks for the vote Kirk. Red might get you tickets, (raising hand), but as long as it's not faded out it sells a car quick. Had a dealer tell me he was adjusting my trade negatively because of the hot blue color once, (jeep wrangler islander package), and my 75 530I in pastel blue sat for awhile before being sold for exactly what I paid for it, although I hardly drove it for free. Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Kirk Lachman [mailto:admranger@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:55 PM To: E36M3 List Cc: Goss, Patrick - PA Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) Patrick Goss wrote: >What??? people don't like red? Why??????????? >97 M3/4 hellrot >90 crx some sort of faded red >88 wagoneer, red/maroon base >68 t-bird red and rust >Prior car: >95 integra - millano red I concur w/Patrick. Current fleet: '95 M3 #21 I-stock (hellrot under all the stickers) '02 M3 in Imola red '96 Ford F350 Crewcab Dually Diesel in Cardinal Red (try finding a red Ford diesel dually, go ahead, try!) Previous: '03 330 ZHP in imola red '96 Z3 2.8 in brilliant red (I think...) '94 530i (5-speed manual) in brilliant red They don't call it resale red for nuthin'! In addition: Red 'N' on L&R sides of helmet. Cheers, Kirk
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) - from Carey Probst
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:58:23 -0500 From: Carey Probst <m3carey@hcprobst.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) ..I concur w/Patrick and Kirk Current fleet: '99 M3 Helrot Red '86 325 Bright red, non-factory '06 RX-8 - Bright red (whatever they call it)(Wife) Previous fleet: '75 2002 - Bright Red '76 2002 - Bright Red '79 Jeep CJ7 - Maroon '01 Tiburon - (Wife) - Red Carey Probst '99M3 daily driver '86 325 track toy, cammed, chipped, swayed A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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#10. Re: Red - from jbjerke@charter.net
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:15:27 -0800 From: <jbjerke@charter.net> Subject: Re: Red I was curious as to why several said this. Red is one of my favorite M3 colors. It seems 90% of BMW's are black or silver (at least in the midwest) so I'm kind of tired of those colors. Besides, black is a pain in the a$$ to keep clean. Due to this I've always preferred the Helrot, Alpine, Estoril, Avus etc. YMMV, but I've never heard anyone say red is a tough resale color. Now yellow and copper I understand as I feel those may narrow down your target audience. Just sold my Wife's helrot E46 and had several looking for that particular color. Jeff 98 Helrot/Black M3 99 Helrot/Tan 328 (sold) ---- E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> wrote: > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:12:35 -0600 > From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) > > What??? people don't like red? Why??????????? > > Patrick Goss > 97 M3/4 hellrot > 90 crx some sort of faded red > 88 wagoneer, red/maroon base > 68 t-bird red and rust > Prior car: > 95 integra - millano red