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#1. RE: [E36M3] E36M3 96' Cigarette Lighter -- is there a simple way - from Jim Powell
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:47:21 -0800 From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] E36M3 96' Cigarette Lighter -- is there a simple way Bosch relay. Go to a stereo shop. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Ed MacVaugh [mailto:macvaugh@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:34 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 96' Cigarette Lighter -- is there a simple way Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:17:27 -0500 From: Ed MacVaugh <macvaugh@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 96' Cigarette Lighter -- is there a simple way to make it inactive -- once the key is removed??? You really want to find another power source for the Garmin. The lighter socket draws so much current, it has larger gauge wire and a higher amperage fuse and moving it to a switched circuit would take substantial work. Ed scott noltensmeier wrote: > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:18:33 -0800 (PST) > From: scott noltensmeier <snoltens@yahoo.com> > Subject: E36M3 96' Cigarette Lighter -- is there a simple way to make it inactive -- once the key is removed??? > > E36M3 96' Cigarette Lighter -- is there a simple way to make it inactive -- once the key is removed??? > > ..got a Garmin GPS (model 330) and I'd like to change the Cigarette Lighter so that it turns off when the key is remove. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* __________ NOD32 2047 (20070208) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) - from Hans Batra
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:12:24 -0500 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) Neil, How do you find the Mini, given that it's FWD? How badly (or not) does it plow? Can you feel the LSD doing its magic? I have a 2007 VW 4-door GTI w/DSG that I bought in August ($29k for a Golf!), and have never truly warmed to it because of the FWD. Maybe I could warm to the new Mini, due out this month. Or hell, maybe it's time to find a nice 4-door E36 M3. Or there is that 79 911 SC. And I did see the most gorgeous Ferrari 400i the other day, in beautiful condition, for $22k. I'm such a car slut. I haven't been able to have a stable relationship with a car since my 94 530i (with new Alusil block) was totaled by some illegal immigrants in a van 3 years ago (grrrr!). Since then, I've been "sleeping" around. I think I've been through 6 perfectly good cars in the last 3 years. Do any of you have this "problem"? When you drive a car, don't you need to feel like it's complete exhilaration, every time? Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Maller" <neil.maller@gte.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: [E36M3] Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) > Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:11:33 -0500 > From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> > Subject: Re: 1995 M3 for sale (feedback please) > > on 2/8/07 1:54 PM, Hans Batra <hansbatra@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> My idea of a relatively affordable fleet: the 1979 >> 911 SC and this 95 M3 in question. Total outlay: >> $28.5K. New loaded V6 Honda Accord: $30K. I'll >> take the 911 and the M3 combo, thank you very much. > > That is pretty funny: my new loaded Mini Cooper S cost $29K and change two > years ago. On the other hand I haven't had to do a thing to it except for > normal consumables. > > Neil > Fort Wayne, IN > 96 M3 - Bastard child > 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic > 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#3. Refresh thoughts on oxygen sensors... - from Stan Shaw
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:31:22 -0500 From: "Stan Shaw" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: Refresh thoughts on oxygen sensors... I am going through much (of the rest) of my 96 M3. While dropping the exhaust to get at the rear subframe bushings, I encountered my oxgen sensors and wondered whether these should be replaced (car has 160k miles on it). I found them to be very expensive, so maybe having them tested/cleaned, etc. is a better option. What's the consensus on these? Thanks! Regards, Stan Shaw Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 Excell.Net Owner/Operator http://www.Excell.Net/ 928 Owners Club President http://www.928OC.org/ 928Racing.net Team Member http://www.928Racing.net/ "Liberty once lost is lost forever." - John Adams
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#4. Re: Red - from jbjerke@charter.net
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:31:51 -0800 From: <jbjerke@charter.net> Subject: Re: Red Funny you should mention that. Both of my Helrot cars had all the black trim painted to match. Looks MUCH better that way IMO. On the E46's BMW painted a little more trim as you spent more. 323/325 had lots of black trim, 328/330 had a little less and coupes & M3's had all body color. > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:52:22 -0800 > From: "Reid Conti" <reid@conti.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Red > > Imolarot is pretty hot. However, I always felt that Helrot looked odd > on the E36 M3 especially, with all of the big black trim. The color > just doesn't pop enough, to me it looks like it's orangey or faded. > > But then, my taste is questionable because I loved my daytona violet m3. > > > > I was curious as to why several said this. Red is one of my favorite M3 colors. > > It seems 90% of BMW's are black or silver (at least in the midwest) so I'm kind of tired of those colors. Besides, black is a pain in the a$$ to keep clean. Due to this I've always preferred the Helrot, Alpine, Estoril, Avus etc. YMMV, but I've never heard anyone say red is a tough resale color. Now yellow and copper I understand as I feel those may narrow down your target audience. Just sold my Wife's helrot E46 and had several looking for that particular color. > > > > Jeff > > 98 Helrot/Black M3 > > 99 Helrot/Tan 328 (sold)
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#5. Re: FW: [E36M3] Re: Red - from Mike DePolo
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:55:13 -0500 From: "Mike DePolo" <smiked1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FW: [E36M3] Re: Red It's very deceiving what colors look like on these cars in person. I looked for a silver car for a long time. I have a salmon silver e30 M3 and that's my favorite color in that model. I finally found a silver e36 M3, looked at it in person, and didn't like it. I saw a white one advertised very close by, which I thought would be my least favorite color, and it looked amazing. I didn't buy that car, but looked for months for another white one. White is now by far my favorite color for an e36 M3. It really looks great next to the black trim. I also think it would look great in a non-metallic black. I have no idea why a red car would be hard to sell. Hellrot looks great, almost in the same way an e24 M6 looks so good in zinnoberot. I thought maybe you'd have to find the right person to buy a dakar, violet, or estoril car. Not that these are not great looking colors; but they are very aggressive looking compared to the other colors. Mike On 2/8/07, Jack - Elephant Motorsports <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> wrote: > > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:16:18 -0500 > From: "Jack - Elephant Motorsports" <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> > Subject: FW: [E36M3] Re: Red > > Well, if we want to wax philosophic for a moment..... > > I personally don't dislike red, I just prefer stealthier looking cars so > red > doesn't do it for me. Plus my first BMW was red and I never really took > to > that color, still haven't gotten past it. I think red cars can look very > nice for sure and if I had a Ferrari it would be red. If I had a Porsche > it > would be black. BMW....depends on the model although currently my (soon > to > be mine) E30 M3 is Salmon Silver and my E38 740 is Aspen Silver (both are > silver with a rosy hue), love those silvers which I believe most do not. > For an E30 M3 I'd prefer Henna which is orangish red so I guess it's not > only model specific but even more than that. > > E36 M3....hmmm....I like black actually probalby because I think the > styling > of the E36 is a big jump away from the traditional styling of the E30 and > similar gen 5/7 cars and the dark color diminishes that a bit. Strangely > (maybe) I also like Boston Green. Estoril has grown on me but I'm now not > very fond of Avus. > > Well, before I waste bandwidth talking about each color, Tucker, I did > think > your car looked good in the pics! > > Jack Money > Elephant Motorsports > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#6. Re: [E36M3] was Cigarette Lighter -- safe source of key on power - from dgcrum@jps.net
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:01:58 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: dgcrum@jps.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] was Cigarette Lighter -- safe source of key on power Scott, An easy place to tap into keyed power is the connector for the automatic transmission range switch. It is part of the wiring harness that is present on both slushbox and manual trans cars. (since you have a '96, I assume it's not an automatic). Look for a green and white wire in a four wire connector under the center console. On most 94-98 E36s, this fed by fuse F26. Refer to figure 29 on page 610-9 and the associated power distribution diagram for your model year in Bentley's E36 manual. I use the power and ground (brown wire) in this connector to power both my radar detector and Garmin (I use a 60CS). Use BMW round connectors to plug right in without resorting to Neanderthal, er, 3M wiretaps. P/N 61 13 1 376 191. David 96 M3 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:17:27 -0500 From: Ed MacVaugh <macvaugh@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 96' Cigarette Lighter -- is there a simple way to make it inactive -- once the key is removed??? You really want to find another power source for the Garmin. The lighter socket draws so much current, it has larger gauge wire and a higher amperage fuse and moving it to a switched circuit would take substantial work. Ed scott noltensmeier wrote: > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:18:33 -0800 (PST) > From: scott noltensmeier <snoltens@yahoo.com> > Subject: E36M3 96' Cigarette Lighter -- is there a simple way to make it inactive -- once the key is removed??? > > E36M3 96' Cigarette Lighter -- is there a simple way to make it inactive -- once the key is removed??? > > ..got a Garmin GPS (model 330) and I'd like to change the Cigarette Lighter so that it turns off when the key is remove.
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Refresh thoughts on oxygen sensors... - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 05:19:11 -0600 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Refresh thoughts on oxygen sensors... BMW wants you to replace them at 100,000 miles. Personally, I'd do the 2 that are before the cats and wait for a check engine light for the post-cat ones. The ones before the cats affect fuel economy as well as the longevity of the cats. The post cats one just check to see that the cats are doing something. Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red Become a BMW CCA Member! Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Stan Shaw [mailto:Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:34 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Refresh thoughts on oxygen sensors... Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:31:22 -0500 From: "Stan Shaw" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: Refresh thoughts on oxygen sensors... I am going through much (of the rest) of my 96 M3. While dropping the exhaust to get at the rear subframe bushings, I encountered my oxgen sensors and wondered whether these should be replaced (car has 160k miles on it). I found them to be very expensive, so maybe having them tested/cleaned, etc. is a better option. What's the consensus on these? Thanks! Regards, Stan Shaw Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 Excell.Net Owner/Operator http://www.Excell.Net/ 928 Owners Club President http://www.928OC.org/ 928Racing.net Team Member http://www.928Racing.net/ "Liberty once lost is lost forever." - John Adams ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: 2/7/2007 3:33 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: 2/7/2007 3:33 PM
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#8. FW: [E36M3] Re: Red - from M540
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 07:20:29 -0500 From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> Subject: FW: [E36M3] Re: Red Heh heh, and the only color my wife wanted was Avus... There's a car for every driver and a driver for every seat, no? Kevin -------------------- 6 -------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:16:18 -0500 From: "Jack - Elephant Motorsports" <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> Subject: FW: [E36M3] Re: Red Well, if we want to wax philosophic for a moment..... I personally don't dislike red, I just prefer stealthier looking cars so red doesn't do it for me. Plus my first BMW was red and I never really took to that color, still haven't gotten past it. I think red cars can look very nice for sure and if I had a Ferrari it would be red. If I had a Porsche it would be black. BMW....depends on the model although currently my (soon to be mine) E30 M3 is Salmon Silver and my E38 740 is Aspen Silver (both are silver with a rosy hue), love those silvers which I believe most do not. For an E30 M3 I'd prefer Henna which is orangish red so I guess it's not only model specific but even more than that. E36 M3....hmmm....I like black actually probalby because I think the styling of the E36 is a big jump away from the traditional styling of the E30 and similar gen 5/7 cars and the dark color diminishes that a bit. Strangely (maybe) I also like Boston Green. Estoril has grown on me but I'm now not very fond of Avus. Well, before I waste bandwidth talking about each color, Tucker, I did think your car looked good in the pics! Jack Money Elephant Motorsports http://www.elephantmotorsports.com
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#9. Red and Black cars cost more to insure? - from kwill69058@comcast.net
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:21:19 +0000 From: kwill69058@comcast.net Subject: Red and Black cars cost more to insure? Ok, I may be going off here but.....since we are on a color topic: How does the insurance company get away with charging more for cars that are colored differently and nobody steps up and fights for our rights as consumers? When my ex-wife moved out I was told that my insurance was going up because of our divorce. Now I am told that because my E36 M3 is black it costs more to insure since black and/or red cars are more often used for speeding? I don't want to start a bothersome debate here but is there any way we can fix this? Does anyone know of a company that does not do this? Please respond (off list) if you like to: kwill69058@hotmail.com Thanks.
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Red and Black cars cost more to insure? - from Ed MacVaugh
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:26:41 -0500 From: Ed MacVaugh <macvaugh@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Red and Black cars cost more to insure? Wive's tale. Insurance companies don't ask the color of the cars here in Maryland. Insurance companies can charge more based upon marital status because their claims history shows that single guys have more claims. Be glad you aren't 17 years old, male and single. This isn't something that can be "fixed", since us old married guys don't want to pay more so that you can pay less. :-) Ed kwill69058@comcast.net wrote: > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:21:19 +0000 > From: kwill69058@comcast.net > Subject: Red and Black cars cost more to insure? > > Ok, I may be going off here but.....since we are on a color topic: > > How does the insurance company get away with charging more for cars that are colored differently and nobody steps up and fights for our rights as consumers? > > When my ex-wife moved out I was told that my insurance was going up because of our divorce. Now I am told that because my E36 M3 is black it costs more to insure since black and/or red cars are more often used for speeding? > > I don't want to start a bothersome debate here but is there any way we can fix this? >