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#1. Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 Photos - from Mike VanAmburgh
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:25:50 -0600 From: "Mike VanAmburgh" <mvanamburgh@charter.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 Photos I drove my wife's new Mazdaspeed3 to work today. The thing pulls like mad in 3rd gear - definitely have to be careful when passing on a 2-lane road! I prefer that it was RWD of course but it is a blast to drive. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 Photos > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:30:52 -0500 > From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 Photos > > And the 2001 740i Sport is quite beautiful as well. > > Speaking of FWD, I've had my 2007 VW 4-door GTI w/DSG for 7 months now, > and still haven't warmed up to the front wheels doing the driving. I'm > sure a LSD would help but don't know how much. If a full year goes by > and I just can't deal with it, it'll be time to sell it and get a 4-door > E36 M3 and get into a long-term relationship. By the way, the window > sticker said the EPA est. MPG was 25/32...I've been getting 21...but > that's having fun with it. The new Mini (regular model) has numbers of > 32/40 MPG! > > You do have to wonder what will happen to valuations of larger cars when > gas goes to $5.00/gallon and stays there. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <jbjerke@charter.net> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 5:37 PM > Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 Photos > > >> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:28:32 -0800 >> From: <jbjerke@charter.net> >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 Photos >> >> The TL is nice and with the 6-speed you get 4 piston Brembo brakes too. >> But you best make sure you have a good grip on the wheel when uncorking >> it, because there is a lot of torque steer. If it were rear or all wheel >> drive it would be a perfect daily driver, but a bit heavy for track duty. >> I've also thought the new Aston Martin V8 Vantage is what the M6 should >> have looked like. >> Just waiting for the V8 E90 M3 to be released so the later model E46 M3 >> resale takes a big hit. I think the E46 M3 will go down as the best >> looking car (inside and out) that BMW produced in modern times. >> >> Jeff Bjerke >> 98 M3 Coupe >> 05 TL 6-Speed (Wife's Car) >> >> PS. I just received digest #5150. Isn't that some sort of emergency code >> for someone who lost their mind? >> >> ------------------------------------------------- >> >> >>> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:11:39 -0800 >>> From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 photos >>> >>> Sigh. Looks like a Pontiac. >>> >>> Anybody else think the Acural TL looks pretty >>> sharp...like maybe it should >> >have been the E46/E90 bodystyle? >>> >>> Guess I'm just an E36 luddite. >>> >>> -Pete >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ************************************************* >> Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >> >> Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >> Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >> Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >> Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >> Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >> Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com >> >> DIGEST INFORMATION: >> http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >> ************************************************* >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.2/692 - Release Date: 2/18/2007 >> 4:35 PM >> >> > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 Photos - from Scott M
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:48:06 -0800 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 Photos My wife has a Protege5, the previous generation car. While not the MS version, the one thing that really impressed me about that car is the steering feel. Mazda has done the best job copying the famous BMW steering feel of any other Japanese make that I have driven, and it is better than many German cars such as Audi for example too. Mazda gets what enthusiasts are after, so I would expect the MS version is pretty kick-ass. Even with the FWD thing. I enjoy driving her car, although that isn't very often lately. Even with zero power it is a really fun car to drive and with a very stiffly sprung suspension. I know they softened up the normal 3, but the MS-3 should be spot on in the chassis dept, because they also made the basic chassis of the 3 stiffer which is always helpful to handling. And double the HP from the Protege5 can only be goodness :-) How is the torque steer? Not bad at all in ours, but I attribute most of that to the fact there IS no torque!! Scott On Feb 20, 2007, at 8:27 PM, Mike VanAmburgh wrote: > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:25:50 -0600 > From: "Mike VanAmburgh" <mvanamburgh@charter.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 Photos > > I drove my wife's new Mazdaspeed3 to work today. The thing pulls > like mad in 3rd gear - definitely have to be careful when passing > on a 2-lane road! I prefer that it was RWD of course but it is a > blast to drive. > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 5:37 PM > Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 Photos > > >> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:30:52 -0500 >> From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 Photos >> >> And the 2001 740i Sport is quite beautiful as well. >> >> Speaking of FWD, I've had my 2007 VW 4-door GTI w/DSG for 7 months >> now, and still haven't warmed up to the front wheels doing the >> driving. I'm sure a LSD would help but don't know how much. If >> a full year goes by and I just can't deal with it, it'll be time >> to sell it and get a 4-door E36 M3 and get into a long-term >> relationship. By the way, the window sticker said the EPA est. >> MPG was 25/32...I've been getting 21...but that's having fun with >> it. The new Mini (regular model) has numbers of 32/40 MPG! >> >> You do have to wonder what will happen to valuations of larger >> cars when gas goes to $5.00/gallon and stays there. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <jbjerke@charter.net> >> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 5:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 Photos >> >> >>> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:28:32 -0800 >>> From: <jbjerke@charter.net> >>> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 Photos >>> >>> The TL is nice and with the 6-speed you get 4 piston Brembo >>> brakes too. But you best make sure you have a good grip on the >>> wheel when uncorking it, because there is a lot of torque steer. >>> If it were rear or all wheel drive it would be a perfect daily >>> driver, but a bit heavy for track duty. >>> I've also thought the new Aston Martin V8 Vantage is what the M6 >>> should have looked like. >>> Just waiting for the V8 E90 M3 to be released so the later model >>> E46 M3 resale takes a big hit. I think the E46 M3 will go down as >>> the best looking car (inside and out) that BMW produced in modern >>> times. >>> >>> Jeff Bjerke >>> 98 M3 Coupe >>> 05 TL 6-Speed (Wife's Car) >>> >>> PS. I just received digest #5150. Isn't that some sort of >>> emergency code for someone who lost their mind? >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>>> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:11:39 -0800 >>>> From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 photos >>>> >>>> Sigh. Looks like a Pontiac. >>>> >>>> Anybody else think the Acural TL looks pretty >>>> sharp...like maybe it should >>> >have been the E46/E90 bodystyle? >>>> >>>> Guess I'm just an E36 luddite. >>>> >>>> -Pete >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************************* >>> Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >>> >>> Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >>> Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >>> Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >>> Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >>> Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >>> Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com >>> >>> DIGEST INFORMATION: >>> http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >>> ************************************************* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.2/692 - Release Date: >>> 2/18/2007 4:35 PM >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ************************************************* >> Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >> >> Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >> Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >> Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >> Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >> Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >> Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com >> >> DIGEST INFORMATION: >> http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >> ************************************************* >> > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#3. Re: [E36M3] What else to change if I'm doing the head gasket? - from Peter Loron
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:10:04 -0800 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] What else to change if I'm doing the head gasket? Awesome, Mark. Thanks! Most of that stuff I already had on my list, but it's great to have another viewpoint. Since my radiator, pump, and t-stat were replaced like 30K ago, I'm thinking I may just do the hoses at this point (since I don't have any info on when those were done) and wait until another 20K roll around to re-do the cooling system. I've already got the set of special tools...haven't decided what to do with them after I finish and am confident I don't need to do it again soon. :-) Questions: 1. You have listed on there the VANOS oil line...is that a wear item? 2. I also see a mess of vacuum hoses...also just preventative maintenance? 3. Why do you say you also need an additional E12 socket besides the head bolt socket? -Pete On 2/20/07, Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 16:43 -0600, Peter Loron wrote: > > Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:40:20 -0800 > > From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> > > Subject: What else to change if I'm doing the head gasket? > > > > Ok, so I'm finally getting around to pulling the head on my 98 M3. > ~85Kmi. > > AFAIK, the previous owner had the radiator, and the thermostat + housing > and > > waterpump changed about 30Kmi ago. I don't know about any of the coolant > > hoses. Time to do the cooling system again? > > > > Can anybody point to a concise list of parts (and part numbers!) that > > "should" be one at this juncture? > > > > Thanks! > > > > -Pete > > Pete, > > I'm also posting this to the list for everyone. This is the list of > parts I changed on a 180K 1996. I'm currently waiting on my last run of > parts and expect to finish the car this weekend. Fingers crossed. > > Strictly speaking my inexperienced belief is that a high mileage head > job should include the following: > > All radiator hoses and radiator, > tensioners (2) and pulleys (2) > accessory belts, water pump, bmw coolant, enough oil for 2 changes, > crankshaft position sensor, knock sensors, camshaft position sensor, > bolt timing chain tensioners, vanos oil line and crush washers, vacuum > hoses, head gasket set, head bolt set, exhaust bolt/nut set, radiator > expansion tank, The tiny coolant hoses for the dual zone climate control > are insane, one of them is over $100. I'm replacing anyway. I will NOT > have done this work just to have some little cooling system component > fail. The only thing allowed to fail at this point is a heater core or > the plastic nipples on the valve. > > Regarding tools I'd be happy to let you borrow mine for a month or two > for a small fee. I'm thinking $50, so over the course of the year I can > make back the money I spent and save other people money. I think > another part of the deal will be if you screw up and need the tools > again, re-rental is free. The total cost of all the tools is $500+ for > OEM or $200+ for SIR tools and other discount. > > The tools you need are: > The cam locator bracket that holds the cams in place SIR tools > Block TDC pin SIR Tools (this piece of garbage needed to be shaved down > with the dremel to fit into the hole. Could be because the hole had > some rust on it. Nightmare and a half) > The exhaust sprocket turning tool because it's spring loaded (oem, fits > great) > Dummy primary chain tensioner (dunno if it works yet, but OEM) > fan wrench and holder (oem) > head bolt socket (OEM - Do NOT try anything but OEM for this one) > > You also need the $20 Torx E-* socket set from pep boys or sears > hardware. Annoying :-P > > 07 11 9 963 130 > Oil Gasket - 12 x 15.5 Al > 11 12 1 717 432 > Flange (not part of head gasket set) > 11 12 1 721 938 > Head bolt set - OEM Febi/Bilstein > 11 28 1 717 188 > Accessory Belt Tensioner - OEM > Febi/Bilstein > 11 28 1 717 210 > Accessory Belt Tensioner - OEM > Febi/Bilstein > 11 28 1 730 532 > Protective Ring for Pulley > 11 28 1 748 131 > Accessory Belt Pulley - A/C & > Serpentine qty 2 > 11 36 1 705 532 > Oil Line - OEM Cohliline > 11 51 7 527 799 > Water Pump Metal Impeller - OEM Graf > 11 53 1 740 649 > Expansion Tank Hose > 12 14 1 703 221 > Camshaft Position Sensor > 13 54 1 703 865 > Radiator Hose - OEM Elaplast > 13 54 1 703 945 > Radiator Hose > 17 11 1 723 520 > Radiator Expansion Tank - OEM Behr > 17 11 1 723 521 > Radiator Hose > 32 41 1 093 596 > VANOS Gasket - 14 x 20 Al qty 4 > (crush washers for oil line) > 83 30 0 491 025 > Chain Tensioner - Used to tension > primary chain > 83 30 0 491 047 > 32mm fan wrench > 83 30 0 491 048 > fan holder > 83 30 0 491 062 > VANOS Chain Tensioner - Used to > remove the VANOS > 88 88 6 112 250 > Head Bolt Socket - E12 > 64 21 1 394 293 > Hose that goes to the Heater Core > > > 11129069861 > Head gasket set - OEM Victor Reinz > 64218391239 > dual zone climate control heater > hose > 64218391240 > dual zone climate control heater > hose > 11531703844 > heater return hose? > 12139067831 > spark plug connector - OEM Bremi qty > 6 > 12141703276 > knock sensor - OEM VDO > 12141709616 > crankshaft position sensor in > conjunction with adapter lead > 12514592703 > (see SI 122701000). > 07129902630 > exhaust manifold nuts (think these > are 1pk, qty 24) > 11121744057 > exhaust manifold studs qty 24 > > > 51731257971 > vacuum hose > 51731259951 > vacuum hose > 11731435335 > vacuum hose (2) > 11731714217 > vacuum hose > 12141748398 > o ring for crankshaft position > sensor > 11427833769 > oil filter kit - OEM Mahle (qty 2) > > > > > > > > > > > > > 07589062376 > 3-Bond 1209 RTV sealant > 82141467704 > BMW Coolant (Gallon) (qty 3) > > I plan to do a full web based writeup with parts lists because several > steps had quite a few gotchas. Like that you can't take the last 2 head > bolts out with the cam locator on, but I was afraid to take it off > thinking the cams would spin. Logically I thought about it and realized > the only place a valve would go is closed so I risked it, but when I > pulled it the cams didn't turn at all and this is what you're supposed > to do. There's plenty of other gotchas that I wouldn't have gotten > through if it wasn't for this group. > > Thanks again guys, > > Mark > > >
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#4. Re: [E36M3] What else to change if I'm doing the head gasket? - from Brian Ruiz
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:06:19 -0800 From: "Brian Ruiz" <eurowerke@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] What else to change if I'm doing the head gasket? I'm "starring" this post in my gmail account, LOTS of info here... :) Thanks for all your fastidiousness with all this Mark. The other maintenance and completeness tightwads on the list (like me) really appreciate your thoroughness. Wish I lived near you so I could help! Brian build 8/95 On 2/20/07, Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> wrote: > > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:11:37 -0500 > From: Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] What else to change if I'm doing the head gasket? > > On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 16:43 -0600, Peter Loron wrote: > > Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:40:20 -0800 > > From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> > > Subject: What else to change if I'm doing the head gasket? > > > > Ok, so I'm finally getting around to pulling the head on my 98 M3. > ~85Kmi. > > AFAIK, the previous owner had the radiator, and the thermostat + housing > and > > waterpump changed about 30Kmi ago. I don't know about any of the coolant > > hoses. Time to do the cooling system again? > > > > Can anybody point to a concise list of parts (and part numbers!) that > > "should" be one at this juncture? > > > > Thanks! > > > > -Pete > > Pete, > > I'm also posting this to the list for everyone. This is the list of > parts I changed on a 180K 1996. I'm currently waiting on my last run of > parts and expect to finish the car this weekend. Fingers crossed. > > Strictly speaking my inexperienced belief is that a high mileage head > job should include the following: > > All radiator hoses and radiator, > tensioners (2) and pulleys (2) > accessory belts, water pump, bmw coolant, enough oil for 2 changes, > crankshaft position sensor, knock sensors, camshaft position sensor, > bolt timing chain tensioners, vanos oil line and crush washers, vacuum > hoses, head gasket set, head bolt set, exhaust bolt/nut set, radiator > expansion tank, The tiny coolant hoses for the dual zone climate control > are insane, one of them is over $100. I'm replacing anyway. I will NOT > have done this work just to have some little cooling system component > fail. The only thing allowed to fail at this point is a heater core or > the plastic nipples on the valve. > > Regarding tools I'd be happy to let you borrow mine for a month or two > for a small fee. I'm thinking $50, so over the course of the year I can > make back the money I spent and save other people money. I think > another part of the deal will be if you screw up and need the tools > again, re-rental is free. The total cost of all the tools is $500+ for > OEM or $200+ for SIR tools and other discount. > > The tools you need are: > The cam locator bracket that holds the cams in place SIR tools > Block TDC pin SIR Tools (this piece of garbage needed to be shaved down > with the dremel to fit into the hole. Could be because the hole had > some rust on it. Nightmare and a half) > The exhaust sprocket turning tool because it's spring loaded (oem, fits > great) > Dummy primary chain tensioner (dunno if it works yet, but OEM) > fan wrench and holder (oem) > head bolt socket (OEM - Do NOT try anything but OEM for this one) > > You also need the $20 Torx E-* socket set from pep boys or sears > hardware. Annoying :-P > > 07 11 9 963 130 > Oil Gasket - 12 x 15.5 Al > 11 12 1 717 432 > Flange (not part of head gasket set) > 11 12 1 721 938 > Head bolt set - OEM Febi/Bilstein > 11 28 1 717 188 > Accessory Belt Tensioner - OEM > Febi/Bilstein > 11 28 1 717 210 > Accessory Belt Tensioner - OEM > Febi/Bilstein > 11 28 1 730 532 > Protective Ring for Pulley > 11 28 1 748 131 > Accessory Belt Pulley - A/C & > Serpentine qty 2 > 11 36 1 705 532 > Oil Line - OEM Cohliline > 11 51 7 527 799 > Water Pump Metal Impeller - OEM Graf > 11 53 1 740 649 > Expansion Tank Hose > 12 14 1 703 221 > Camshaft Position Sensor > 13 54 1 703 865 > Radiator Hose - OEM Elaplast > 13 54 1 703 945 > Radiator Hose > 17 11 1 723 520 > Radiator Expansion Tank - OEM Behr > 17 11 1 723 521 > Radiator Hose > 32 41 1 093 596 > VANOS Gasket - 14 x 20 Al qty 4 > (crush washers for oil line) > 83 30 0 491 025 > Chain Tensioner - Used to tension > primary chain > 83 30 0 491 047 > 32mm fan wrench > 83 30 0 491 048 > fan holder > 83 30 0 491 062 > VANOS Chain Tensioner - Used to > remove the VANOS > 88 88 6 112 250 > Head Bolt Socket - E12 > 64 21 1 394 293 > Hose that goes to the Heater Core > > > 11129069861 > Head gasket set - OEM Victor Reinz > 64218391239 > dual zone climate control heater > hose > 64218391240 > dual zone climate control heater > hose > 11531703844 > heater return hose? > 12139067831 > spark plug connector - OEM Bremi qty > 6 > 12141703276 > knock sensor - OEM VDO > 12141709616 > crankshaft position sensor in > conjunction with adapter lead > 12514592703 > (see SI 122701000). > 07129902630 > exhaust manifold nuts (think these > are 1pk, qty 24) > 11121744057 > exhaust manifold studs qty 24 > > > 51731257971 > vacuum hose > 51731259951 > vacuum hose > 11731435335 > vacuum hose (2) > 11731714217 > vacuum hose > 12141748398 > o ring for crankshaft position > sensor > 11427833769 > oil filter kit - OEM Mahle (qty 2) > > > > > > > > > > > > > 07589062376 > 3-Bond 1209 RTV sealant > 82141467704 > BMW Coolant (Gallon) (qty 3) > > I plan to do a full web based writeup with parts lists because several > steps had quite a few gotchas. Like that you can't take the last 2 head > bolts out with the cam locator on, but I was afraid to take it off > thinking the cams would spin. Logically I thought about it and realized > the only place a valve would go is closed so I risked it, but when I > pulled it the cams didn't turn at all and this is what you're supposed > to do. There's plenty of other gotchas that I wouldn't have gotten > through if it wasn't for this group. > > Thanks again guys, > > Mark > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 photos - from Kent Shephard
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:26:02 -0800 From: Kent Shephard <Kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 photos It looks, I dare say, plain. Not striking. Not aggressive. Nothing. The new Dodge Magnum, I got for he wife is more visceral when it comes to looks. I still like my E36. Kent Shephard kents@kshephard.com On Feb 20, 2007, at 12:22 PM, Hans Batra wrote: > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:18:06 -0500 > From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 photos > > "Agreed. That car looks like crap. Looks just like all the other > blobs on the > road these days...." > > That's why I love the E36 M3s and the older 911s. An older 911 > looks NOTHING like what's on the roads these days (except of course > a new 911). > > Why don't the designers get this? That their new cars look just > like all the other cars? Lots of folks don't want to pay $50K plus > for a generic look. > > Hans > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Thomas" > <dave@sasdatalink.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 photos > > > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:05:34 -0800 > From: David Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 photos > > On Tuesday 20 February 2007 10:34:21 am Michael Michalski wrote: >> I really hope that they make ALOT of changes before starting >> production! I >> would really need to drive it to probably change my mind, but my >> first >> thought when I viewed those pictures was, that looks terrible! > > Agreed. That car looks like crap. Looks just like all the other > blobs on the > road these days.... > > Dave T. > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.2/692 - Release Date: > 2/18/2007 4:35 PM > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#6. FOR SALE 1995 BMW 525i - from jbjerke@charter.net
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:31:04 -0800 From: <jbjerke@charter.net> Subject: FOR SALE 1995 BMW 525i FOR SALE 1995 BMW 525i Automatic 89,000 miles Metallic dark green Parchment leather interior New tires 5 disc cd changer Exceptionally clean No Accidents $7,000 Located in northern Illinois Contact Roger Schmidt at: rcschmidt29@aol.com 815-885-3242 home 815-282-5233 work
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#7. Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 photos - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:28:08 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3 photos In a message dated 2/20/2007 5:58:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, emosound@verizon.net writes: Love the 997, I was drooling over it at the car show. Then I saw this on my way to work: Yes, Paul -- me too! From the pics of the e90 M3 I'm not excited. Still love my e36 version. Now that 911, well that's a different story. I'm still dreamy eyed after looking at those driveway shots! You know, my comments from the truck, every time a newbie shows up with a brand-spank'n new 911 to autox -- I just want to drive it! Forgive me Mr. Bangle, for I have sinned ;-)) Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005 / 2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & Rogue Engineering
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#8. Re: [E36M3] What else to change if I'm doing the head gasket? - from Mark Duckworth
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:45:20 -0500 From: Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] What else to change if I'm doing the head gasket? On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 20:55 -0500, marty wrote: > hi Mark, > > I think you'll find the two expensive heater 'hoses' are incorrect. If > you see them you'll know they are wrong - they are mostly metal pipe. > Ask me how I know :) > > part #'s 64218391239 & 64218391240 are erroneously shown in the ETK as two of the hoses attaching to the heater core at the firewall. > The correct part #s are 64-21-1-394-291 and 64-21-1-394-292 to go along with 64-21-1-394-293. > If you look at other E36s the ETK shows the correct part numbers - only the M3 is wrong. > > You should be able to make out the part # on the original hoses to confirm. Wow, what a nice mistake! I would have been scratching my head for a while if it wasn't for this post, thank you. I don't have the 293 hose. I have one identical but the part number is: 11-53-1-703-844. The price difference is very nice, hundreds of $ versus $20. Thanks, Mark
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#9. UUC rotors - from Brian Ruiz
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:29:32 -0800 From: "Brian Ruiz" <eurowerke@gmail.com> Subject: UUC rotors Hey guys, I ordered up a set of new front rotors from UUC last week and they arrived today. I noticed when I first ordered them that the picture of the rotors on the main page under "New Stuff" had changed from a nice color picture of cad plated rotors to a black and white one. I thought nothing of it, and ordered up. Upon arrival and inspection today, I noticed they were black instead of cadmium plated like the rotors I ordered last year for the back end were. Does anyone know why the switch from cad to black plating? I was very impressed with the cad plated rotors; the sides of the rotor hub and face are still gleaming cadmium yellow. I hope UUC made the switch for a good reason because I was looking forward to those shiny cad rotors and the contrast between the silver swept face and cadmium hub under my RKs all the way around. Thanks guys, Brian build 8/95
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#10. OT: Isle of man TT - from L R
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:19:00 -0800 (PST) From: L R <lhrc51@yahoo.com> Subject: OT: Isle of man TT For those of you who are in such sort of things: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbzz9_moto-david-jeffries-full-lap-tt Luis A few BMW's '97 Suzuki TLS1000 '95 VX800 custom chopper --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.