E36M3 #5155

Thursday, February 22, 2007 16:28:06

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. (PRIVATE) re: [E36M3] UUC rotors - from Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks
#2. Re: What else to change if I'm doing the head gasket? - from Neil Maller
#3. Ack. Ignition cyl woes. - from Steve Klein
#4. Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. - from Jason Knight
#5. Re: (PRIVATE) re: [E36M3] UUC rotors - from Mark Duckworth
#6. Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. - from Mark Duckworth
#7. Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. - from David Thomas
#8. Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. - from David Thomas
#9. Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. - from Reid Conti
#10. Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. - from Kent Shephard

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#1. (PRIVATE) re: [E36M3]  UUC rotors - from Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:31:36 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <rob@shortshifter.com> Subject: (PRIVATE) re: [E36M3] UUC rotors Hi Brian, Saw your post on the M3 list. The switch was made purely for cosmetic reasons; we had an overwhelming number of customer comments asking for black instead of the gold. It seemed that some people disliked the gold, most were indifferent, but a great number were positive about the black. So, the switch. I do apologize for the surprise, most fitments in gold had been sold out before the website images were updated. If you are displeased with the black, we would be more than happy to give you a full refund including shipping charges. If you do want to keep them, I would be glad to offer you the add-ons (pads, SS lines, fluid) that we now have on the website with our new "package pricing" at the appropriate discount, or a price adjustment on the rotors themselves. The pricing/package updates were published on our website about a week after your order was shipped. For new package pricing, please see this page on our website: http://www.nexternal.com/uuc/Product373 Please call me directly to discuss further. - Rob Levinson UUC Motorwerks * 908-874-9092 * http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > From: "Brian Ruiz" <eurowerke@gmail.com> > Subject: UUC rotors > > Hey guys, > > I ordered up a set of new front rotors from UUC last week and they arrived > today. I noticed when I first ordered them that the picture of the rotors > on the main page under "New Stuff" had changed from a nice color picture of > cad plated rotors to a black and white one. I thought nothing of it, and > ordered up. Upon arrival and inspection today, I noticed they were black > instead of cadmium plated like the rotors I ordered last year for the back > end were. Does anyone know why the switch from cad to black plating? I was > very impressed with the cad plated rotors; the sides of the rotor hub and > face are still gleaming cadmium yellow. I hope UUC made the switch for a > good reason because I was looking forward to those shiny cad rotors and the > contrast between the silver swept face and cadmium hub under my RKs all the > way around.

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#2. Re: What else to change if I'm doing the head gasket? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:29:43 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: What else to change if I'm doing the head gasket? on 2/20/07 6:27 PM, Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> wrote: > I plan to do a full web based writeup with parts lists because several > steps had quite a few gotchas. Like that you can't take the last 2 head > bolts out with the cam locator on, but I was afraid to take it off > thinking the cams would spin. Logically I thought about it and realized > the only place a valve would go is closed so I risked it, but when I > pulled it the cams didn't turn at all and this is what you're supposed > to do. That's interesting. The cam fixture I used must have been different from yours, because I didn't have that head bolt access problem with it in place. Let me add my thanks to you for the documentation. I hope never to replace my head gasket again, but I've saved your post just in case. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD

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#3. Ack. Ignition cyl woes. - from Steve Klein
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:14:52 -0600 From: Steve Klein <s.klein@steveklein.cc> Subject: Ack. Ignition cyl woes. So I'm stuck in the worst of all possible scenarios at the moment. My key just spins in the ignition lock after having it turn to the 'On' position, and now the car won't start and I can't shut it off. I've disconnected the battery and I'm getting ready to remove the whole assembly and see if I can rig it to work until I can get a new one. Anyone BTDT and have any calming words of advise? thanks, Steve

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. - from Jason Knight
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:36:15 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. Here's a mention from the archives. I'm sure there are others, but this was the first that came up and looks fairly accurate. http://www.bmw-m.net/digest/Archive_2001_10_digest_1653-1741/digest1679.htm#1 Here are some more hits to peruse: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=key+spins+site%3Abmw-m.net&btnG=Google+Search Jason ----- Original Message ---- From: Steve Klein <s.klein@steveklein.cc> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:17:37 AM Subject: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:14:52 -0600 From: Steve Klein <s.klein@steveklein.cc> Subject: Ack. Ignition cyl woes. So I'm stuck in the worst of all possible scenarios at the moment. My key just spins in the ignition lock after having it turn to the 'On' position, and now the car won't start and I can't shut it off. I've disconnected the battery and I'm getting ready to remove the whole assembly and see if I can rig it to work until I can get a new one. Anyone BTDT and have any calming words of advise? thanks, Steve ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#5. Re: (PRIVATE) re: [E36M3]  UUC rotors - from Mark Duckworth
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:48:29 -0500 From: Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: (PRIVATE) re: [E36M3] UUC rotors How come I don't get this kind of service at walmart? :-D Thanks, Mark On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 10:27 -0600, Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks wrote: > Hi Brian, > > Saw your post on the M3 list. The switch was made purely for cosmetic > reasons; we had an overwhelming number of customer comments asking for black > instead of the gold. It seemed that some people disliked the gold, most > were indifferent, but a great number were positive about the black. So, > the switch. > > I do apologize for the surprise, most fitments in gold had been sold out > before the website images were updated. > > If you are displeased with the black, we would be more than happy to give > you a full refund including shipping charges. > > If you do want to keep them, I would be glad to offer you the add-ons (pads, > SS lines, fluid) that we now have on the website with our new "package > pricing" at the appropriate discount, or a price adjustment on the rotors > themselves. The pricing/package updates were published on our website > about a week after your order was shipped. > > For new package pricing, please see this page on our website: > > http://www.nexternal.com/uuc/Product373 > > Please call me directly to discuss further. > > - Rob Levinson > UUC Motorwerks * 908-874-9092 * http://www.uucmotorwerks.com

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. - from Mark Duckworth
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:52:04 -0500 From: Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 11:17 -0600, Steve Klein wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:14:52 -0600 > From: Steve Klein <s.klein@steveklein.cc> > Subject: Ack. Ignition cyl woes. > > So I'm stuck in the worst of all possible scenarios at the moment. > > My key just spins in the ignition lock after having it turn to the > 'On' position, and now the car won't start and I can't shut it off. > I've disconnected the battery and I'm getting ready to remove the > whole assembly and see if I can rig it to work until I can get a new > one. > > Anyone BTDT and have any calming words of advise? > > thanks, > Steve I know in my car it will spin freely any time unless the proper key is fully inserted. I think my tab is broken but my ignition still works perfectly anyway. I've never had it go into free spin after being properly engaged though, that's a little strange. I'd try my best to jiggle it with the key fully in and near the on position. Is your steering locked? Thanks, Mark

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. - from David Thomas
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:04:58 -0800 From: David Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. On Thursday 22 February 2007 10:57:39 am Mark Duckworth wrote: > I know in my car it will spin freely any time unless the proper key is > fully inserted.  I think my tab is broken but my ignition still works > perfectly anyway. One day...it will spin forever like Steve's is doing. Change it now while its cheap and easy to replace. Dave

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. - from David Thomas
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:07:44 -0800 From: David Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. On Thursday 22 February 2007 9:17:37 am Steve Klein wrote: > > So I'm stuck in the worst of all possible scenarios at the moment. > > My key just spins in the ignition lock after having it turn to the > 'On' position, and now the car won't start and I can't shut it off. > I've disconnected the battery and I'm getting ready to remove the > whole assembly and see if I can rig it to work until I can get a new > one. > > Anyone BTDT and have any calming words of advise? > > thanks, > Steve Your in a bad situation. Since the ignition cylinder is spinning you proably wont be able to remove the cylinder for replacement. Typically the entire steering lock assembly needs to be replaced once your at this point. Dave T.

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. - from Reid Conti
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:55:07 -0800 From: "Reid Conti" <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. This happened to me on my '95 once, and I freaked out dreading the replacement.. until I tried it the next day and it was fine! It happened once every few months for the years that I owned the car, and never got worse. I think what happened most of the time was that I didn't realize the steering wheel was locked. So make sure the key is all the way in, AND the wheel is not locked hard to one side. It's amazing how freely the key spins when the wheel is locked, most cars put up a lot more resistance. Hopefully it is not 100% shot.

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. - from Kent Shephard
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:20:37 -0800 From: Kent Shephard <Kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. I almost had a coronary he week after I bought my E36 not knowing he spinning key is a security feature that prevents wrecking the ignition with a big screwdriver. Kent Shephard kents@kshephard.com On Feb 22, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Reid Conti wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:55:07 -0800 > From: "Reid Conti" <reid@conti.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Ack. Ignition cyl woes. > > This happened to me on my '95 once, and I freaked out dreading the > replacement.. until I tried it the next day and it was fine! It > happened once every few months for the years that I owned the car, and > never got worse. I think what happened most of the time was that I > didn't realize the steering wheel was locked. So make sure the key is > all the way in, AND the wheel is not locked hard to one side. It's > amazing how freely the key spins when the wheel is locked, most cars > put up a lot more resistance. > > Hopefully it is not 100% shot. > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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