E36M3 #5167

Sunday, March 04, 2007 13:18:18

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#1. Re: [E36M3] New Head Issues - from Peter Loron
#2. Re: [E36M3] New Head Issues - from Mark Duckworth
#3. Re: [E36M3] New Head Issues - from Mark Duckworth
#4. Rear headrests - from Peter Fry
#5. Knock sensors - from Shelhart2@aol.com
#6. Re: [E36M3] Driveshaft refresh - from Mdgreer
#7. RE: Help with manifold installation - from Lawrence J. Barbieri
#8. Re: [E36M3] Quick battery question - from Jim Bassett
#9. Re: Help with manifold installation - from chipmitchell@gmail.com
#10. Re: [E36M3] Knock sensors - from Mark Duckworth

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#1. Re: [E36M3] New Head Issues - from Peter Loron
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Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:07:14 -0800 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] New Head Issues Congrats on getting it to fire and no codes! [uninformed speculation] Could the tapping be a lifter that is not refilling with oil properly after bleeding down? Maybe just drive it a bit and get the vibration/heat work on it? [/uninformed speculation] -Pete On 3/3/07, Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> wrote: > > Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 21:40:21 -0500 > From: Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> > Subject: New Head Issues > > Hey guys, > > As you've all known by my incessant emails, I've been in the process of > replacing my head gasket. Last night I found the bleeder valve, > finished filling the coolant which took almost 2.5 gallons so at least > most of the system is full but for some reason I couldn't get any > coolant to come out of the bleeder valve without filling the overflow > tank REALLY full. I then had to drain off the excess to bring it down > to the full cold mark. > > Maybe I'm being hyper sensitive, but this is what I'm noticing. No > smoke from the exhaust, an odd smell which eventually went away which I > believe was spilled coolant on the exhaust. Smoking from the exhaust > that went away as the car warmed up. No leaks whatsoever under the car. > The temperature climbed fairly quickly but evenly to the middle on the > dash gauge and stayed. The upper radiator hose got pretty warm > indicating coolant flow however, the heater only came up to 21.5C at > first and then down to 18C and stayed there despite having it set to 90F > on both sides. I suppose there's air in the system but I expected some > heat. > > And finally the most worrying is that it's tapping. I can hear it > mainly from the center and rear section of the valve cover. It doesn't > sound THAT loud but it's fairly loud and rhythmic. There's definitely > more than one tap and it almost sounds like a car I once rode in whose > owner told me the tapping is due to high performance valve springs. > > Finally when I shut it off the cooling system seemed to lose pressure > kind of quickly. But I never really sat around and squeezed cooling > hoses for long after shutting a car off before after it barely warmed > up. > > I'm afraid to drive it until I figure out the coolant situation and make > sure it's full, and I was just wondering if the tapping is normal. I > plan to call VAC on monday to talk to them but was just wondering if I > could get your opinions awhile. > > Thanks, > Mark > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#2. Re: [E36M3] New Head Issues - from Mark Duckworth
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Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 01:06:32 -0500 From: Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] New Head Issues Well it got too late tonight to subject my neighborhood to 4000 RPM but I do think that will settle the tapping. I've also topped off the cooling system to the very top so we'll see what happens :-P And to all you guys congratulating me, thanks. I honestly didn't know if I had what it took to get it done and get it done right. I'm still quite nervous it's just going to fall apart or start dumping coolant into the cylinders or something like that. I wonder what the car would do if the VANOS was installed wrong? Last night I had a (very strange) dream where I was watching the engine run (upside down so I could see the crankshaft spin) and it snapped in half and parts went everywhere. Goes to show you how much this expensive beast is on my mind :-P The $ figures I'm playing with on this car make me uncomfortable, but not like I had much choice... my mechanic wouldn't even take the job. Thanks, Mark On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 21:07 -0800, Peter Loron wrote: > Congrats on getting it to fire and no codes! > > [uninformed speculation] > Could the tapping be a lifter that is not refilling with oil properly > after bleeding down? Maybe just drive it a bit and get the > vibration/heat work on it? > [/uninformed speculation] > > -Pete > > On 3/3/07, Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> wrote: > Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 21:40:21 -0500 > From: Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> > Subject: New Head Issues > > Hey guys, > > As you've all known by my incessant emails, I've been in the > process of > replacing my head gasket. Last night I found the bleeder > valve, > finished filling the coolant which took almost 2.5 gallons so > at least > most of the system is full but for some reason I couldn't get > any > coolant to come out of the bleeder valve without filling the > overflow > tank REALLY full. I then had to drain off the excess to bring > it down > to the full cold mark. > > Maybe I'm being hyper sensitive, but this is what I'm > noticing. No > smoke from the exhaust, an odd smell which eventually went > away which I > believe was spilled coolant on the exhaust. Smoking from the > exhaust > that went away as the car warmed up. No leaks whatsoever > under the car. > The temperature climbed fairly quickly but evenly to the > middle on the > dash gauge and stayed. The upper radiator hose got pretty > warm > indicating coolant flow however, the heater only came up to > 21.5C at > first and then down to 18C and stayed there despite having it > set to 90F > on both sides. I suppose there's air in the system but I > expected some > heat. > > And finally the most worrying is that it's tapping. I can > hear it > mainly from the center and rear section of the valve > cover. It doesn't > sound THAT loud but it's fairly loud and rhythmic. There's > definitely > more than one tap and it almost sounds like a car I once rode > in whose > owner told me the tapping is due to high performance valve > springs. > > Finally when I shut it off the cooling system seemed to lose > pressure > kind of quickly. But I never really sat around and squeezed > cooling > hoses for long after shutting a car off before after it barely > warmed > up. > > I'm afraid to drive it until I figure out the coolant > situation and make > sure it's full, and I was just wondering if the tapping is > normal. I > plan to call VAC on monday to talk to them but was just > wondering if I > could get your opinions awhile. > > Thanks, > Mark > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High > Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#3. Re: [E36M3] New Head Issues - from Mark Duckworth
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Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 01:45:57 -0500 From: Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] New Head Issues Hey guys, Almost forgot: http://picasaweb.google.com/evaporated/M3HeadGasketRepair Some final pictures of the parts order and stuff Thanks, Mark

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#4. Rear headrests - from Peter Fry
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:42:14 -0500 From: Peter Fry <PeterFry@aol.com> Subject: Rear headrests Jeff- A the risk of souning flippant - pull them out. I've had the ones in my 99 M3 out several times. If I pull straight up on the headrests, they'll lift right off of their posts. Then I pull the posts out. Very easy, really. I'm interested by the rattle you're hearing from the headrests - I didn't think mine rattled, but I've been meaning to track down a rattle that I was thinking came from the third brake light. I'll have to pull the headrests again and see it the rattle goes away too. ___ Peter Fry

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#5. Knock sensors - from Shelhart2@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 07:42:35 EST From: Shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Knock sensors I was getting an intermittent check engine light and I was told the knock sensors break down and send the DME the intermittent signal. I bought two new sensors and took the intake manifold off last night. The sensors casing was brittle and cracking. Anything else I might consider while the manifold is off? Anyone else had this issue? Shel 1995 M3 2002 boxster S <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Driveshaft refresh - from Mdgreer
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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 08:01:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Mdgreer" <mark.greer@excite.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Driveshaft refresh Have replaced the guibo & trans mounts when I did the clutch, but not the center support.Car has 197,000 miles so I just thought everything might be getting loose.I think center bearing comes with rebuilt driveshaft-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:25:39 -0800 -From: David Thomas <> -Subject: Re: [E36M3] Driveshaft refresh--I doubt you need a new driveshaft...probably just the center support bearing -and/or a guibo. Have you checked 'em?--Dave T. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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#7. RE: Help with manifold installation - from Lawrence J. Barbieri
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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 09:03:53 -0500 From: "Lawrence J. Barbieri" <larry@logicalconclusions.com> Subject: RE: Help with manifold installation Chip, There really shouldn't be a clearance issue, especially on a '95. I have a '95 and I just put on a set of shorty headers (which are larger than the stock manifolds and therefore offer less clearance) and they slipped right up there and went on without a problem. I did leave a few studs out to make this a bit easier, but with the stock manifold it really should just go back up and on even with all the studs in the head. - Larry > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:27:52 -0500 > From: "chipmitchell@gmail.com" <chipmitchell@gmail.com> > Subject: Help with manifold installation > > Good afternoon - > > I'm running into a snag trying to bolt exhaust manifolds back onto my > '95 M3. The passenger side engine support arm (to the engine mount) > is in the way, and won't allow the front manifold to fit over the > studs. I've tried turning it every which way, checked that the studs > were fully seated in the head, etc. Is there a trick to making it > fit, or am I going to have to remove all the studs? > > Thanks, > Chip Mitchell > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.6/709 - Release Date: 3/3/2007 8:12 AM

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Quick battery question - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 06:26:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Quick battery question On Sat, March 3, 2007 4:48 pm, Jim Bassett said: > I've got to load up the race car for this weekend's driver's school. If I > remember <grin>, I'll see if I can't measure the distance between > hold-down screw holes tonight. The two rear-most screw holes are 1-1/2" apart. Jim Bassett

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#9. Re: Help with manifold installation - from chipmitchell@gmail.com
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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 10:09:34 -0500 From: "chipmitchell@gmail.com" <chipmitchell@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help with manifold installation I've had a couple of good replies and suggestions, but let me restate a question that nobody has answered first-hand yet: Has anyone succesfully installed stock exhaust manifolds on a 325/95M3 with all studs already in the head, and without removing any additional parts? At this point I see no way that it can happen without either removing some studs, or removing the engine support. Thanks, Chip > > -------------------- 11 -------------------- > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:27:52 -0500 > From: "chipmitchell@gmail.com" <chipmitchell@gmail.com> > Subject: Help with manifold installation > > Good afternoon - > > I'm running into a snag trying to bolt exhaust manifolds back onto my > '95 M3. The passenger side engine support arm (to the engine mount) > is in the way, and won't allow the front manifold to fit over the > studs. I've tried turning it every which way, checked that the studs > were fully seated in the head, etc. Is there a trick to making it > fit, or am I going to have to remove all the studs? > > Thanks, > Chip Mitchell > >

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Knock sensors - from Mark Duckworth
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Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:15:09 -0500 From: Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Knock sensors I've been told the crankshaft position sensor is prone to failure. Fairly easy to get to from the top if the intake is off, otherwise you have to get under the car (I really hate doing that on jackstands). Thanks, Mark On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 06:47 -0600, Shelhart2@aol.com wrote: > Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 07:42:35 EST > From: Shelhart2@aol.com > Subject: Knock sensors > > I was getting an intermittent check engine light and I was told the knock > sensors break down and send the DME the intermittent signal. I bought two new > sensors and took the intake manifold off last night. The sensors casing was > brittle and cracking. Anything else I might consider while the manifold is > off? Anyone else had this issue? > > Shel > 1995 M3 > 2002 boxster S > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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