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#1. Re: [E36M3] Is there life after 150K??? - from Jonathan L.
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:54:32 -0800 From: "Jonathan L." <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Is there life after 150K??? Ditto that! My '99 has over 175K miles on mine, but I did have some head gasket issues at 150K miles. For the use my car has seen, that's not such a big deal, though. We actually had a guy in our school yesterday who had a track rat M3 (I think a '97 or '98) with 265,000 miles on it! That's not a typo. I can't see ever selling mine, Jonathan L. >From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> > >IMO, those are questions only you can answer. Me, I plan on keeping my M3 >for the foreseeable future, even planning the motor rebuild sometime next >year. It's approaching 180K miles, it's still way too much fun to drive, >hauls the family around when needed with ease, and there's really nothing >out there that I'd want to replace it with. > >My 2 cents, >Jim Bassett > > _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117
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#2. Re: Life After? - from Marc Plante
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:58:37 -0400 From: "Marc Plante" <marcva@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Life After? I had my E36 325i for 230k miles with 70 or so track days and about as many autoX days. The only reason I sold the car was to take over my wife's 97 M3/4. If you take care of the interior and exterior, and the car makes you smile when you get in. Keep it. No major gremlins to worry about, and even a new motor is cheaper than a new car...plus you can put cams in the new motor, etc, etc and have BETTER than original. I've always had a steady diet of upgrades for my car to keep the relationship fresh. 75k seats, 100k suspension refresh (koni/H&R), 120k stereo (a/d/s speakers plus amp plus subwoofers in back. Every tweak made the car feel new again while keeping the core that I love so much. I'm contemplating a 535it as my next possible car, and I would only buy that used. That gives you a sense of my timeline to sell this car. Marc Plante E36 M3/4, only 76k Vienna, VA
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#3. RE: Rear Lower Shock Mount Issues - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:03:48 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Rear Lower Shock Mount Issues Install shock correctly, with integral migration stop against the bolt head; or use the washer supplied with the shock; or get an appropriately sized washer and fit it between the bolt head and the shock lower isolator. Check the other shock while car is in the air. -------------------- 3 -------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:37:11 -0700 From: Kent Shephard <Kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Rear Lower Shock Mount Issues Hi - The title is mostly correct. Today I had the sleeve and bolt pull through the bushing on my Bilstein Sports. The bushing is a $1.50 but I have to wait for Bilstein to ship it. The sleeve is pressed into the bushing which is pressed into the shock body. So how do I prevent this from ever happening again? Should I worry? Kent Shephard
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: Life After? - from David Thomas
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:16:16 -0700 From: David Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Life After? We have a '85 325e that has about 300K on it that is still a super reliable daily driver...a properly maintained BMW will run "forever". As far as I am concerned our '95 M3 with 102K on it is just getting broken in ;-) Dave T.
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Rear Lower Shock Mount Issues - from Kent Shephard
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:18:29 -0700 From: Kent Shephard <Kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear Lower Shock Mount Issues Hi, Interesting thing the guy a Bilstein didn't show a washer, etc. as a part of the sleeve or anything to be pressed on. The shop that did the install must have been morons (mostly off, not on). The stock bolt head is not much larger than the tube. I'll be fixing this, buying new bolts from the dealer also. Kent Shephard kents@kshephard.com On Mar 14, 2007, at 1:07 PM, Rex Tener wrote: > At 11:47 AM 3/14/2007, Kent Shephard wrote: >> Today I had the sleeve and bolt pull through the bushing on my >> Bilstein Sports. > > Both sets of my Bilsteins came with the washer pressed on the tube > or loose to be put under the lower rear shock bolt. Here is a > picture of Bilstein set #2 on M3 #2. > > <http://www.ninemisfit.com/vehicles/1996_bmw_m3/misc/ > bilstein_bushing_retainer.jpg> > > Rex > > PS: I am ordering Bilstein set #3 for M3 #3 today. Can set #3 of > TCKR Koni DA's be far behind? > > :-) >
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#6. Life after?????? - from marshall lytle
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:10:52 -0400 From: "marshall lytle" <mblytle@cox.net> Subject: Life after?????? bought my techno violet m3/4 new in jan 97. now has 55k miles on it. no plans to EVER sell it. way too much fun. Actually, although I used it extensively for driving schools when I bought it, it hadn't been on a track for 8 yrs until last weekend. ( have a race car that sees the track all the time.) holy crap, that totally stock m3 was a BLAST to take on track. I am never getting rid of it. Wait, did I already say that? :-) Marshall 97 m3/4 93 325is race car
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Is there life after 150K??? - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:03:18 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Is there life after 150K??? I remember when the wife and I bought our first house after the college days in 1980. Our neighbors were a nice retired couple in their 70's and the old guy would be out there every day with his 60's something Pontiac GTO convertible - red w/ white top! We were DINKs then, the wife in her Audi and me in my Porsche 914. Fast forward, and now I'm thinking retirement house (just three year's away), will have three car garage -- one mandatory space for the M3! Can't wait to be that old retired guy ;-)) cheers, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe -- daily driver and autox'er Philly Region SCCA 2005 / 2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & Rogue Engineering <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Life after?????? - from Sinha, Vikas
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:08:58 -0400 From: "Sinha, Vikas" <Vikas.Sinha@aam.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Life after?????? Glad to know I'm not the only one who's rejected the "natural migration" to an E46 M3. I tell my wife that I want to drive my car until my son is old enough to drive it, and he's four. Vik 97 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: marshall lytle [mailto:mblytle@cox.net] > bought my techno violet m3/4 new in jan 97. now > has 55k miles on it. no plans to EVER sell it. > way too much fun.
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#9. Re: [E36M3] m3 pseudo storage - from J Files
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:17:25 -0700 From: "J Files" <jsf.online@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] m3 pseudo storage Thanks. Other thoughts from the list for a low use M3? It is garaged, but not garaged for the "winter" - if you can call the season between summers "winter" in San Diego. Jim On 3/14/07, Burgess, Kim L <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> wrote: > > Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:29:48 -0700 > From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> > Subject: m3 pseudo storage > > Change the oil annually, whether it is indicated or not, oil oxidizes. > Stick to change intervals for brake fluid and coolant also. > > By the way, coolant at the dealer is running $17 a gallon here (Seattle) > locally, after hitting a high of $28 a year ago. > > -------------------- 6 -------------------- > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:45:14 -0700 > From: "J Files" <jsf.online@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] m3 pseudo storage > > Similar situation here - my '98 is not getting the miles it used to, > thanks to many factors (car for business miles, baby seat only in wife's > 325, bike commuting). > > I think I managed 13 tanks of gas in 2006. I would have to check the > log book to be sure, but that's roughly the 4k you name. > > This is not a "put it away for the winter" car; its a garaged car that > gets driven at least twice every three weeks - I'll commute in it if I > have not been in it lately, drive it if we manage to go out without the > baby, etc. > > Now that its gone through this low-mileage-but-regular-use method for a > year, any thing special that I should pay attention to? I expect this > will continue for a while, any thoughts for going forward? Jim > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#10. Re: [E36M3] m3 pseudo storage - from Mike DePolo
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:19:46 -0500 From: "Mike DePolo" <smiked1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] m3 pseudo storage I store my cars for the winter. I change my oil before storage, and my coolant every other year. If you do any kind of annual fluid change (diff, trans, PS, etc.) it should be done before storage. Used oil is acidic and can contain condensation. I flush my brake fluid after storage because brake fluid is hygroscopic. If your brake fluid is old, you may want to flush before storage. Moisture in the brake system can can corrode and seize calipers while sitting. I also use fuel stabilizer and a battery tender. It's not a good idea to start the car at all unless your going to get it up to full operating temp and drive it a good distance. Starting and idling or short trips will just build up condensation in your oil and exhaust system. The first start after storage is the most damaging. Your likely doing more harm than good starting a car every few weeks if you don't actually need to drive it. I put the OBC in "code" mode before the initial start after storage. I then crank the engine until it builds up oil pressure. If the car doesn't have this feature, I pull the fuel pump relay or coil wire and crank. If the car has been in storage an extremely long period of time, you may want to crank it without the plugs until it builds oil pressure. This will relieve some pressure from the rod and main bearings which ride on a film of oil. I don't put the car up on stands. I find that any flat spotting of the tires usually goes away after some driving. I've also read that letting the shocks and struts hang can cause corrosion on the shafts which could otherwise protected inside the tube. If necessary, the car can also be quickly started and moved in an emergency (garage fire, flood, etc). Mike On 3/15/07, J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> wrote: > > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:17:25 -0700 > From: "J Files" <jsf.online@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] m3 pseudo storage > > Thanks. > > Other thoughts from the list for a low use M3? It is garaged, but not > garaged for the "winter" - if you can call the season between summers > "winter" in San Diego. > > Jim > > On 3/14/07, Burgess, Kim L <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> wrote: > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:29:48 -0700 > > From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> > > Subject: m3 pseudo storage > > > > Change the oil annually, whether it is indicated or not, oil oxidizes. > > Stick to change intervals for brake fluid and coolant also. > > > > By the way, coolant at the dealer is running $17 a gallon here (Seattle) > > locally, after hitting a high of $28 a year ago. > > > > -------------------- 6 -------------------- > > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:45:14 -0700 > > From: "J Files" <jsf.online@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] m3 pseudo storage > > > > Similar situation here - my '98 is not getting the miles it used to, > > thanks to many factors (car for business miles, baby seat only in wife's > > 325, bike commuting). > > > > I think I managed 13 tanks of gas in 2006. I would have to check the > > log book to be sure, but that's roughly the 4k you name. > > > > This is not a "put it away for the winter" car; its a garaged car that > > gets driven at least twice every three weeks - I'll commute in it if I > > have not been in it lately, drive it if we manage to go out without the > > baby, etc. > > > > Now that its gone through this low-mileage-but-regular-use method for a > > year, any thing special that I should pay attention to? I expect this > > will continue for a while, any thoughts for going forward? Jim > > > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >