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#1. RE: [E36M3] RE: P-cars and M-cars - from Scott
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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:17:27 -0700 From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: P-cars and M-cars Good point, I guess it's just trading off carbon deposits in the head (and the resulting insanely expensive job) versus a grenaded engine (my co-worker's literally seized and pretzeled its innards on the freeway). Both roughly the same order of magnitude from a $$ POV, and both more than I spent on my M3 :) -----Original Message----- From: DocWyte [mailto:docwyte@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 4:01 PM To: Scott Cc: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: P-cars and M-cars I agree with some of your points, but a good friend of mine has run his german car garage for over 30 years now. He had a 993tt with 17k miles on it and completely rebuilt the heads on it. According to him, that's a common thing and when I commented that I'd seen alot of the older 930 and 964 turbos with rebuilt motors after only 30-40k miles, he said that's also a fairly common interval for a major rebuild. For a job like that at his shop it's still close to $15k, hardly chump change... So to me, that shows that the earlier air cooled turbo charged 911's aren't really any more reliable than the newer versions. The rear main seal is definately an annoyance, especially since they've known about it since 2001... Scott wrote: > Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 15:40:45 -0700 > From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: P-cars and M-cars > > No offense intended towards the new Cayman owners. I think they're beautiful > cars, and perform wonderfully if used within the parameters Porsche designed > them for (sport street driving). > > Having owned an '02 996 for a couple years, and lusted after Porsches of > various sorts for my entire life, I just wanted to throw in an extremely > biased opinion about the new non-GT3/non-turbo watercooled cars. IMHO > Porsche went incredibly cheap on the drivetrain of these cars. The drop in > robustness from the 993 series is pretty incredible. I believe the > replacement cost on a 993 n/a engine is roughly $25k -- the 996 engine is > around $7k. There's a reason for this :) > Issues w/the 996/986 and 997/987 engines include: > - sub par oiling at high g's (I really hated seeing my oil pressure drop on > hard right-hand onramps -- this is a little spooky on a 70k car). You hear > smatterings of reports from owners and journalists about these cars blowing > smoke on the track -- this is why. In case folks know, they're a wet sump > design compared to the dry sump used in the 993 and previous cars (and still > used in the turbo and gt3). > - RMS (rear main seal) leakage is an epidemic w/these cars. Still haven't > fixed it after 3 major iterations of the powerplants > - Gearboxes are weaker (mine got replaced under warranty at about 20k miles) > - Engines are now treated as wholesale-replacement items, and are failing at > an alarmingly high rate. Porsche dealers have stacks of htem in crates > waiting for unlucky boxster and 996/7 owners. Porsche doesn't want the > dealers diagnosing failure -- they simply crate them up and send them back > to Germany, then plop the new one into the car. Case & point: a co-worker > just lost the engine in his '03 C4. Flat-bedded it to the dealer and was > back on the road in 4 days with a new (rebuilt) engine. Also scour the > archives of European Car. I think they lost engines in both of their long > term 996s. > > What the above means to me is that I'm no longer dealing with a Porsche of > old. They were historic in their robustness. They were the car driven off of > the street and entered into endurance races. If you're going to do that > today, you'd better be in a Turbo or a GT3. Otherwise, just enjoy a sporty > street car and don't keep it past the warranty :) > > Oh, and unlike Doc, I'm still lusting after a 993 Turbo. In fact, I was just > scouring the classifieds for one a week ago. Hmmm... > > Scott. >
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#2. RE: P-cars and M-cars - from Stan Shaw
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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 19:50:20 -0400 From: "Stan Shaw" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: RE: P-cars and M-cars Then there are those with addictions to other P cars. I have a few 928s, including one setup as a GT race car. Regards, Stan Shaw Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 Excell.Net Owner/Operator http://www.Excell.Net/ 928 Owners Club President http://www.928OC.org/ 928Racing.net Team Member http://www.928Racing.net/ "Liberty once lost is lost forever." - John Adams
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#3. Looking for used obd2 cat and exhaust - Eastern PA - from John Davidson
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Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 13:06:50 -0400 From: "John Davidson" <mzoom007@roadfly.org> Subject: Looking for used obd2 cat and exhaust - Eastern PA Hi guys, My cat and exhaust need replacement. I checked and you can sell a used cat legally if it is in certifiable working condition. Being a private sale, I am happy if it works. Need it for my a 97 M3 Sedan and it will have to pass PA emissions. Located north of Philly and often travel up through Northeast PA and all of NJ. Thanks, John jbdavid@yahoo.com, mzoom007@roadfly.org _________________________________________________________________________ Live, laugh, and chat with friends about your favorite cars. at Roadfly. The complete automotive resource. http://www.roadfly.com/
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#4. Resetting Check Engine Light - from trmptdc@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 13:35:40 -0400 From: trmptdc@aol.com Subject: Resetting Check Engine Light Recently, my engine stumbled slightly after a cold start after sitting for a few days. The check engine light came on. The engine seems to be running fine now and I suspect this was a one time thing that triggered the light. I tried to cancel the light by disconnecting the battery, but that did not work. I want to see if it comes on again, if it does, then I will take more definitive action. Is there any way to reset this without using a reset device (peake)? I am tempted to just go ahead and buy a FCX reset tool, but in the meantime, any way to reset it for now? (This is the first time the check engine light has ever come on). My car has 56K on it. Thanks! Steve 98 M3/4 White ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Angel Eyes - from George R Carr Jr
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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:35:40 -0600 From: George R Carr Jr <georgercarrjr@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Angel Eyes If you are unlucky with the tabs, JB Weld might do the trick. ..... not that I've every needed to use it ... more than once or twice :-) George At 11:07 AM -0500 3/21/07, Goss, Patrick - PA wrote: >Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:05:58 -0500 >From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] Angel Eyes > >I haven't installed them, but in response to your 3rd question be >careful not to snap the depo housing tabs off when removing. They are >pathetically brittle and so are the side marker retaining tabs. > >Patrick >97 M3/4 >W/ depo angel thingys pre-installed, tabs epoxied > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bill Sharp [mailto:M3@cueframe.us] >Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:57 AM >To: E36M3 >Subject: [E36M3] Angel Eyes > >Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:51:25 -0500 >From: Bill Sharp <M3@cueframe.us> >Subject: Angel Eyes > >Has anyone installed angel eyes? > >I want to put them in/on DEPO Euro Ellipsoid Lights. > >How easy/difficult is it? > >What are the things to be careful about? > >What is the source for the hardware? > > > >Thanks, > >Bill >Ft. Worth >e36 >e38 >e39 > -- ====== __ __ George R Carr Jr / / / / | / | ______ 98M3/4 BL/SS / / / / |/ | o/______\o BMWCCA 156632 JTD/ / / / shark | (**=00=**) georgercarrjr@earthlink.net/ / / /__/|__/|__| []*-XX-*[] also 00MRoadster (Sharkster)
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Resetting Check Engine Light - from Peter Loron
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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:00:00 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Resetting Check Engine Light If it was a one-time thing, most codes will go away on their own. AFAIK, there's no way to clear stored codes unless you have a tool. You can probably take your car to Autozone (or local equivalent). They may have a code reader they'll use for free to read/clear the light. Some independent shops will also pull codes for free...just takes a few minutes and is good customer relations. :-) The Peake tools are good for basic code reading and clearing. More advanced tools will allow you to run diagnostics, monitor/record sensor data, etc. Just depends on what you want. -Pete On 4/7/07, trmptdc@aol.com <trmptdc@aol.com> wrote: > > Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 13:35:40 -0400 > From: trmptdc@aol.com > Subject: Resetting Check Engine Light > > Recently, my engine stumbled slightly after a cold start after sitting for > a few days. The check engine light came on. The engine seems to be running > fine now and I suspect this was a one time thing that triggered the light. > I tried to cancel the light by disconnecting the battery, but that did not > work. I want to see if it comes on again, if it does, then I will take more > definitive action. Is there any way to reset this without using a reset > device (peake)? > > I am tempted to just go ahead and buy a FCX reset tool, but in the > meantime, any way to reset it for now? > (This is the first time the check engine light has ever come on). My car > has 56K on it. > > Thanks! > > Steve > > 98 M3/4 White > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at AOL.com. > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#7. Euro headlight connector repair? - from Peter Loron
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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:04:06 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Euro headlight connector repair? So in addition to apparently successfully completing the head repair (YAY), I managed to pull out the ground wire from one my ZKW headlight connectors. These are the round euro-type ones. Anybody know how to disassemble those connectors so I can get the ground hooked back up? Thanks. -Pete
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#8. Fwd: [E36M3] Angel Eyes - from Bill Sharp
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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 14:45:54 -0500 From: Bill Sharp <M3@cueframe.us> Subject: Fwd: [E36M3] Angel Eyes Patrick, Where'd you find yours? I've got DEPO HID projectors and want to put in angel eyes. Or, go with trading out what I have and putting in HID's with angel eyes. I'm convinced they'll keep me safer as they stand out so during daytime. Tnx, Bill Ft. Worth Begin forwarded message: > From: George R Carr Jr <georgercarrjr@earthlink.net> > Date: April 7, 2007 1:00:47 PM CDT > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Angel Eyes > Reply-To: George R Carr Jr <georgercarrjr@earthlink.net> > > Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:35:40 -0600 > From: George R Carr Jr <georgercarrjr@earthlink.net> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Angel Eyes > > If you are unlucky with the tabs, JB Weld might do the trick. > > .... not that I've every needed to use it ... more than once or > twice :-) > > George > > > At 11:07 AM -0500 3/21/07, Goss, Patrick - PA wrote: >> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:05:58 -0500 >> From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> >> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Angel Eyes >> >> I haven't installed them, but in response to your 3rd question be >> careful not to snap the depo housing tabs off when removing. They >> are >> pathetically brittle and so are the side marker retaining tabs. >> >> Patrick >> 97 M3/4 >> W/ depo angel thingys pre-installed, tabs epoxied >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bill Sharp [mailto:M3@cueframe.us] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:57 AM >> To: E36M3 >> Subject: [E36M3] Angel Eyes >> >> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:51:25 -0500 >> From: Bill Sharp <M3@cueframe.us> >> Subject: Angel Eyes >> >> Has anyone installed angel eyes? >> >> I want to put them in/on DEPO Euro Ellipsoid Lights. >> >> How easy/difficult is it? >> >> What are the things to be careful about? >> >> What is the source for the hardware? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bill >> Ft. Worth >> e36 >> e38 >> e39 >> > > -- > ====== __ __ > George R Carr Jr / / / / | / | ______ > 98M3/4 BL/SS / / / / |/ | o/______\o > BMWCCA 156632 JTD/ / / / shark | (**=00=**) > georgercarrjr@earthlink.net/ / / /__/|__/|__| []*-XX-*[] > also 00MRoadster (Sharkster) > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > Bill Sharp Ft. Worth '99 Coupe
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#9. M3 Brake Master Cyl - from don wentz
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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 13:07:43 -0700 From: "don wentz" <dasduck@comcast.net> Subject: M3 Brake Master Cyl Having an issue where the pedal goes down 2-3 inches then holds pretty firm, a single pump will bring it up to where I can ‘heel/toe’, but this needs fixin. Thickness of pads, bleeding, etc haven’t made a difference, so figure it must be the MasCyl? Is the MasCyl rebuildable? Best source if new is only/best option? Thx! Don -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/750 - Release Date: 4/6/2007 9:30 PM
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Resetting Check Engine Light - from trmptdc@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 16:58:11 -0400 From: trmptdc@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Resetting Check Engine Light Pete, This is just what happened! The light is now out after only 4 starts after it appeared. I am curious as to what is was and whether it will recur, but for now, all is well. Thanks Steve -----Original Message----- From: peterloron@gmail.com To: e36m3@bmw-m.net Sent: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Resetting Check Engine Light Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:00:00 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Resetting Check Engine Light If it was a one-time thing, most codes will go away on their own. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.