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#1. Introduction - from Tucker Ryals
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Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 18:51:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Tucker Ryals <tuckerryals@yahoo.com> Subject: Introduction Gruppe, As an update to my for sale post, my 1995 Hellrot M3 has been sold. It's gone to the loving new home of a long-time, and local, CCA member named Tim Ketterson. He has historically been an e28 fan (having owned 3 different '87 535is!) but decided to take the plunge into an M3. I directed Tim to this gruppe, after having learned so much from you all over the years. Please offer Tim congrats on his new purchase and help with any future questions. I'm sure I'll be back some day soon. Cheers, Tucker ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news
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#2. How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? - from Stefano G
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 09:26:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stefano G" <stefanoale@excite.com> Subject: How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? It occurred to me that I may have an air pocket in the cooling system as the engine takes forever to warm up (~20 mins of highway at 70 mph with 35F outside temp) Is there an easy way to get rid of it? How about letting the engine running for a bit with the valve on top of the radiator slightly open? I'm assuming the air would be pushed through the system and eventually escape via the valve... The car is a '98 e36 M3 with 109K and a new radiator. Then again the issue is the car not warming up quickly so until it does not overheat I should be ok right? (track day coming up).. Thanks Stefano '98 M3 running a bit too cool... _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Angel Eyes - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 08:38:17 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Angel Eyes On ebay actually, ivm1 was the seller and they were 250 plus 18 to ship. This was back in feb/04, so I don't even know if he sells them on ebay any longer. He does have a website: http://www.importvision.com/ Umnitza has just the angle eye kit, and I would bet they are likely better quality that the ones I have. You can hardly see the halo in the daytime with mine. Night is fine thou. If I had it to do over again, I'd personally get the bosch hid with AE from umnitza. Expensive, but buy it once and be done with it. Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Bill Sharp [mailto:M3@cueframe.us] Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 3:51 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Fwd: [E36M3] Angel Eyes Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 14:45:54 -0500 From: Bill Sharp <M3@cueframe.us> Subject: Fwd: [E36M3] Angel Eyes Patrick, Where'd you find yours? I've got DEPO HID projectors and want to put in angel eyes. Or, go with trading out what I have and putting in HID's with angel eyes. I'm convinced they'll keep me safer as they stand out so during daytime. Tnx, Bill Ft. Worth Begin forwarded message: > From: George R Carr Jr <georgercarrjr@earthlink.net> > Date: April 7, 2007 1:00:47 PM CDT > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Angel Eyes > Reply-To: George R Carr Jr <georgercarrjr@earthlink.net> > > Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:35:40 -0600 > From: George R Carr Jr <georgercarrjr@earthlink.net> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Angel Eyes > > If you are unlucky with the tabs, JB Weld might do the trick. > > .... not that I've every needed to use it ... more than once or > twice :-) > > George > > > At 11:07 AM -0500 3/21/07, Goss, Patrick - PA wrote: >> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:05:58 -0500 >> From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> >> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Angel Eyes >> >> I haven't installed them, but in response to your 3rd question be >> careful not to snap the depo housing tabs off when removing. They >> are >> pathetically brittle and so are the side marker retaining tabs. >> >> Patrick >> 97 M3/4 >> W/ depo angel thingys pre-installed, tabs epoxied >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bill Sharp [mailto:M3@cueframe.us] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:57 AM >> To: E36M3 >> Subject: [E36M3] Angel Eyes >> >> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:51:25 -0500 >> From: Bill Sharp <M3@cueframe.us> >> Subject: Angel Eyes >> >> Has anyone installed angel eyes? >> >> I want to put them in/on DEPO Euro Ellipsoid Lights. >> >> How easy/difficult is it? >> >> What are the things to be careful about? >> >> What is the source for the hardware? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bill >> Ft. Worth >> e36 >> e38 >> e39 >> > > -- > ====== __ __ > George R Carr Jr / / / / | / | ______ > 98M3/4 BL/SS / / / / |/ | o/______\o > BMWCCA 156632 JTD/ / / / shark | (**=00=**) > georgercarrjr@earthlink.net/ / / /__/|__/|__| []*-XX-*[] > also 00MRoadster (Sharkster) > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > Bill Sharp Ft. Worth '99 Coupe ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#4. Re: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? - from Jay Hudson
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 07:51:34 -0700 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? Here's what I do. Get the engine up to operating temp. Jack the front of the car up as high as I can get it. With engine running, open the bleed screw until no more air comes out. Next morning with engine cold, recheck coolant level. You may have to do this several times. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefano G" <stefanoale@excite.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 6:30 AM Subject: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 09:26:42 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Stefano G" <stefanoale@excite.com> > Subject: How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? > > > It occurred to me that I may have an air pocket in the cooling system as > the engine takes forever to warm up (~20 mins of highway at 70 mph with > 35F outside temp) > > Is there an easy way to get rid of it? > > How about letting the engine running for a bit with the valve on top of > the radiator slightly open? I'm assuming the air would be pushed through > the system and eventually escape via the valve... > > The car is a '98 e36 M3 with 109K and a new radiator. > > Then again the issue is the car not warming up quickly so until it does > not overheat I should be ok right? (track day coming up).. > > > Thanks > > Stefano > '98 M3 running a bit too cool...
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#5. Re: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 11:05:19 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? On 4/9/07, Jay Hudson <jwhud@budget.net> wrote: > Here's what I do. Get the engine up to operating temp. Jack the front of > the car up as high as I can get it. With engine running, open the bleed > screw until no more air comes out. Next morning with engine cold, recheck > coolant level. You may have to do this several times. At least in my experience with my car which is a royal PITA to bleed the coolant system on, if there are air pockets the temp needle lets you know. As in it goes towards the red real quick if you drive the car at all. Your lack of heat to me indicates a problem with the t-stat, as in it might be stuck open all the time (or partially open) which is the ideal failure mode. It takes me 2 days and about 4 or 5 attempts to bleed all the air out of my cooling system. Hence the royal PITA comment. Carlos 98 M3 <--bastard!
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#6. Re: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? - from Chris Turrisi
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Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 23:56:39 -0400 From: Chris Turrisi <cturrisi@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? Stefano, The quickest and easiest way to eliminate air pockets is to use Snap-on's coolant system pressure bleeder, it takes all of 5 minutes to completely fill the system and you can also tell if there are any leaks, before you fill it. The not coming up to temperature sounds like a stuck thermostat (as someone else mentioned). If it was an air bubble, most likely the car would over heat, not run cool. Hope this helps, - Chris At 08:30 AM 4/9/2007 -0500, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 09:26:42 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Stefano G" <stefanoale@excite.com> >Subject: How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? > > >It occurred to me that I may have an air pocket in the cooling >system as the engine takes forever to warm up (~20 mins of highway >at 70 mph with 35F outside temp) > >Is there an easy way to get rid of it? > >How about letting the engine running for a bit with the valve on top >of the radiator slightly open? I'm assuming the air would be pushed >through the system and eventually escape via the valve... > >The car is a '98 e36 M3 with 109K and a new radiator. > >Then again the issue is the car not warming up quickly so until it >does not overheat I should be ok right? (track day coming up).. > > >Thanks > >Stefano >'98 M3 running a bit too cool... > >_______________________________________________ >Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com >The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >*************************************************
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#7. RE: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? - from Mike Frank
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 12:06:29 -0400 From: "Mike Frank" <mfrank28@insightbb.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? Like Carlos, my car gets hot very quickly if driven with air in the system. It also takes a long time to warm up (or won't maintain normal operating temp in really cold weather) if the t-stat is failing. The first time I changed the coolant it was a PITA to get all of the air out. The second time I changed everything (radiator - Zionsville, expansion tank, t-stat, housing - aluminum w/coolant temp sender, hoses, water pump, etc.) it was almost too easy. I never had to do any additional bleeding or refilling. Go figure. Anyway, I'd replace the t-stat. Mike Frank 97 M3 > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos Lopez [mailto:clopez98m3@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:11 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? > > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 11:05:19 -0400 > From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? > > On 4/9/07, Jay Hudson <jwhud@budget.net> wrote: > > Here's what I do. Get the engine up to operating temp. Jack the front > of > > the car up as high as I can get it. With engine running, open the bleed > > screw until no more air comes out. Next morning with engine cold, > recheck > > coolant level. You may have to do this several times. > > At least in my experience with my car which is a royal PITA to bleed > the coolant system on, if there are air pockets the temp needle lets > you know. As in it goes towards the red real quick if you drive the > car at all. Your lack of heat to me indicates a problem with the > t-stat, as in it might be stuck open all the time (or partially open) > which is the ideal failure mode. > > It takes me 2 days and about 4 or 5 attempts to bleed all the air out > of my cooling system. Hence the royal PITA comment. > > Carlos > 98 M3 <--bastard!
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#8. RE: How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? - from Stefano G
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 13:12:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stefano G" <stefanoale@excite.com> Subject: RE: How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? I haven't seen the digest yet but lots of people have already responded to me directly and the consensus seems to say NO air pocket but BAD THERMOSTAT. I may not have enough time to fix it prior to my track day but it seems that this won't be an issue as it will give the cooling system a head start. I'll need to drive the car a bit harder on the track to keep the temps in check ;-) Fine by me... I'll fix it when I get back (any quick test to confirm that the thermostat is the culprit?)Thanks again to everyone who responded. Stefano'98 M3 with "track ready" thermostat.--- On Mon 04/09, Stefano G < stefanoale@excite.com > wrote:From: Stefano G [mailto: stefanoale@excite.com]To: e36m3@bmw-m.net, bmwuucdigest-owner@uucdigest.comDate: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:26:42 -0400Subject: How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system?It occurred to me that I may have an air pocket in the cooling system as the engine takes forever to warm up (~20 mins of highway at 70 mph with 35F outside temp)Is there an easy way to get rid of it? How about letting the engine running for a bit with the valve on top of the radiator slightly open? I'm assuming the air would be pushed through the system and eventually escape via the valve...The car is a '98 e36 M3 with 109K and a new radiator.Then again the issue is the car not warming up quickly so until it does not overheat I should be ok right? (track day coming up)..ThanksStefano'98 M3 running a bit too cool..._______________________________________________Join Excite! - http://www.excite.comThe most personalized portal on the Web! _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: Resetting check engine light - from Peter Loron
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 10:12:24 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Resetting check engine light As far as I know it does not report A/F ratios on the E36 cars. I don't have mine handy, but I remember getting voltage values. It will do A/F ratios if you have a wideband sensor installed. Apparently some cars (no idea about BMWs) come with these nowadays. It does not allow editing of the DME (no remapping your turbos!). If you take a look at the BMW specific page, you can see what you get with the BMW-addon package. Quite a lot of diagnostic capability in the newer cars. -Pete On 4/8/07, Matt Bader <mbader@exammaster.com> wrote: > > Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 15:31:24 -0400 > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Resetting check engine light > > Jeff, thanks for this tip, looks excellent. Does this set-up have the > ability to report A/F ratios, or does that require a special sender/gauge > unit, apart from the 02 sensors? Also, does this set-up allow you to make > changes to the DME or is it strictly diagnostic in nature? > > Regards, > > > Matt Bader > 98 M3/4 > Middletown, DE > > -----Original Message----- > From: j. helffrich [mailto:girolamous@yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 10:51 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Re: Resetting check engine light > > Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 19:45:25 -0700 (PDT) > From: "j. helffrich" <girolamous@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Resetting check engine light > > You might want to look into the Autoenginuity scan tool. For about $250 > you > can do any and all resets, plus if you carry a laptop or PDA in the car > you > can log engine performance and calculate HP. I've used one for years on > my > '97 and I am about to try it on my '06. > http://www.autoenginuity.com/products.html > > > Jerry Helffrich'97 M3/4 Arctic White > '06 M3 CiC Carbon Black > > > -------------------- 4 -------------------- > Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 13:35:40 -0400 > From: trmptdc@aol.com > Subject: Resetting Check Engine Light > > Recently, my engine stumbled slightly after a cold start after sitting for > a > few days. The check engine light came on. The engine seems to be running > fine now and I suspect this was a one time thing that triggered the light. > I tried to cancel the light by disconnecting the battery, but that did not > work. I want to see if it comes on again, if it does, then I will take > more > definitive action. Is there any way to reset this without using a reset > device (peake)? > > I am tempted to just go ahead and buy a FCX reset tool, but in the > meantime, > any way to reset it for now? > (This is the first time the check engine light has ever come on). My car > has 56K on it. > > Thanks! > > Steve > > 98 M3/4 White > >
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#10. Re: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? - from Peter Loron
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 10:17:37 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? So far, it looks like I got all the air out the first fill on my M3. I just kept pouring in a little coolant and massaging the hoses. Temp gauge is stable, and I have heat! Yes, not coming up to temp quickly would probbaly point to a T-stat failing part way open. -Pete On 4/9/07, Mike Frank <mfrank28@insightbb.com> wrote: > > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 12:06:29 -0400 > From: "Mike Frank" <mfrank28@insightbb.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? > > Like Carlos, my car gets hot very quickly if driven with air in the > system. > It also takes a long time to warm up (or won't maintain normal operating > temp in really cold weather) if the t-stat is failing. > > The first time I changed the coolant it was a PITA to get all of the air > out. The second time I changed everything (radiator - Zionsville, > expansion > tank, t-stat, housing - aluminum w/coolant temp sender, hoses, water pump, > etc.) it was almost too easy. I never had to do any additional bleeding > or > refilling. Go figure. Anyway, I'd replace the t-stat. > > Mike Frank > 97 M3 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carlos Lopez [mailto:clopez98m3@gmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:11 AM > > To: E36M3 > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? > > > > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 11:05:19 -0400 > > From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? > > > > On 4/9/07, Jay Hudson <jwhud@budget.net> wrote: > > > Here's what I do. Get the engine up to operating temp. Jack the > front > > of > > > the car up as high as I can get it. With engine running, open the > bleed > > > screw until no more air comes out. Next morning with engine cold, > > recheck > > > coolant level. You may have to do this several times. > > > > At least in my experience with my car which is a royal PITA to bleed > > the coolant system on, if there are air pockets the temp needle lets > > you know. As in it goes towards the red real quick if you drive the > > car at all. Your lack of heat to me indicates a problem with the > > t-stat, as in it might be stuck open all the time (or partially open) > > which is the ideal failure mode. > > > > It takes me 2 days and about 4 or 5 attempts to bleed all the air out > > of my cooling system. Hence the royal PITA comment. > > > > Carlos > > 98 M3 <--bastard! > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >