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#1. Re: [E36M3] Best brake pad for sreet use? - from Mike DePolo
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:19:56 -0400 From: "Mike DePolo" <smiked1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Best brake pad for sreet use? Nothing feels better to me than Pagid, Jurid, or Textar OE type pads on the street. You have to put up with the extra dust, but it comes right off. Contours are very easy to clean, so I don't mind the dust. If your sensors look good and are still working, reuse them. You may want to rebuild the calipers if they haven't been done in a while. If you're planning to bleed anyway, it's not much extra work or cost. Mike On 4/12/07, Peter Fry <PeterFry@aol.com> wrote: > > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:50:11 -0600 > From: Peter Fry <PeterFry@aol.com> > Subject: Best brake pad for sreet use? > > Fellow M3ers, > > At almost 94k (including 2 driver's schools), I've decided to replace my > original brake pads and rotors at a time that's covnenient for me, even > thought they still show a little life left. And the local CCA chapter is > organizing a brake tech session, so I can get some help on my first > attempt > at this task. > My question: Given that I'd like to retain at least stock performance, > keep the brakes very quiet, and wouldn't mind reducing the dust, what pads > are recomended? I plan to go with stock rotors. > > The following are available at Bimmerzone.com: > Pagid (stock) > PBR Delux > PBR Ultimate Ceramic > PBR Metal Master > Jurid > Bosch Ceramic > Akebono Ceramic Pro > > I'm leaning toward the Pagid, since the performance (good for the street) > and noise (little) are a known quantity. But I'm seeking the experiences > of > others. > > Also- since my brake wear sensors have not yet tripped the light on the > dash, is there any reason to replace them along with the pads? > I also plan a brake bleed. Any other add-on tasks while I'm working in the > area? > > Thanks, > ___ > Peter Fry > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Best brake pad for sreet use? - from stiles
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:14:54 -0700 From: "stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Best brake pad for sreet use? Not saying they're the "best", but I'm having good luck with Performance Friction "New Z-Rated" Carbon Metallic pads from Bimmerworld. Not quite the cold bite of stock, but much better than some of the racier pads I've used in the past. Near zero dusting. I'm only using them on the front at the moment, fwiw. I'm procrastinating on the rear brake job... -----Original Message----- From: Mike DePolo [mailto:smiked1@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:21 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Best brake pad for sreet use? Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:19:56 -0400 From: "Mike DePolo" <smiked1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Best brake pad for sreet use? Nothing feels better to me than Pagid, Jurid, or Textar OE type pads on the street. You have to put up with the extra dust, but it comes right off. Contours are very easy to clean, so I don't mind the dust. If your sensors look good and are still working, reuse them. You may want to rebuild the calipers if they haven't been done in a while. If you're planning to bleed anyway, it's not much extra work or cost. Mike On 4/12/07, Peter Fry <PeterFry@aol.com> wrote: > > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:50:11 -0600 > From: Peter Fry <PeterFry@aol.com> > Subject: Best brake pad for sreet use? > > Fellow M3ers, > > At almost 94k (including 2 driver's schools), I've decided to replace my > original brake pads and rotors at a time that's covnenient for me, even > thought they still show a little life left. And the local CCA chapter is > organizing a brake tech session, so I can get some help on my first > attempt > at this task. > My question: Given that I'd like to retain at least stock performance, > keep the brakes very quiet, and wouldn't mind reducing the dust, what pads > are recomended? I plan to go with stock rotors. > > The following are available at Bimmerzone.com: > Pagid (stock) > PBR Delux > PBR Ultimate Ceramic > PBR Metal Master > Jurid > Bosch Ceramic > Akebono Ceramic Pro > > I'm leaning toward the Pagid, since the performance (good for the street) > and noise (little) are a known quantity. But I'm seeking the experiences > of > others. > > Also- since my brake wear sensors have not yet tripped the light on the > dash, is there any reason to replace them along with the pads? > I also plan a brake bleed. Any other add-on tasks while I'm working in the > area? > > Thanks, > ___ > Peter Fry > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Best brake pad for sreet use? - from Robert Brooks
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:21:08 -0600 From: Robert Brooks <m3rb@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Best brake pad for sreet use? I just checked if Korman still has Ferodo 3410F pads, and they do, at least they list them. They're all I've ever used since the original stock pads, so don't have much basis for comparison, but they're quiet, low dust, work well in all conditions, and last a long time.
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#4. Does this well work in the 96+E36M3s? - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:24:33 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: Does this well work in the 96+E36M3s? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ORIGINAL-BMW-M-TECH-2-SPORTS-STEERING-WHE EL-E36-E31_W0QQitemZ170100241006QQihZ007QQcategoryZ33704QQssPageNameZWDV WQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem TIA KLB
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Best brake pad for sreet use? - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:36:13 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Best brake pad for sreet use? I just ordered some Axxis Ultimates to replace my Hawk HPS pads. After two track days and 2 years, the HPSs are finally done. They were very noisy but worked pretty good. I am trying something else because they squeal a lot, even with the backing plates gooped up with anti-squeal. I don't see anyone saying anything about the Ultimates. Hopefully I made a good choice. They will be used 99% on the street. Dave D. 98 M3/4
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Does this well work in the 96+E36M3s? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:40:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Does this well work in the 96+E36M3s? On Thu, April 12, 2007 12:30 pm, Burgess, Kim L said: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ORIGINAL-BMW-M-TECH-2-SPORTS-STEERING-WHE > EL-E36-E31_W0QQitemZ170100241006QQihZ007QQcategoryZ33704QQssPageNameZWDV > WQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem It *may* - it looks like the Euro non-airbag wheel. My frend GregK had one on his 325 several years ago. My 2 cents, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - US 3-spoke wheel in it's future(?) 1993 325is #44 JP - brand new Sparco race wheel
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Best brake pad for sreet use? - from David Thomas
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:54:24 -0700 From: David Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Best brake pad for sreet use? On Thursday 12 April 2007 12:40:49 pm Dave DeBuhr wrote: > just ordered some Axxis Ultimates to replace my Hawk HPS pads. > After two track days and 2 years, the HPSs are finally done. They > were very noisy but worked pretty good. I am trying something else > because they squeal a lot, even with the backing plates gooped up > with anti-squeal. > > I don't see anyone saying anything about the Ultimates. Hopefully > I made a good choice. They will be used 99% on the street. They are good pads, I have used them on my E30. They are similar to the Akebono's but they dust more and wear out quicker. Both seem to be pretty gentle on rotors. Dave T.
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Does this well work in the 96+E36M3s? - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:01:41 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Does this well work in the 96+E36M3s? I have the same one in my 97 M3/4. No airbag, so you set the SRS light off, or you can defeat, that if it really bothers you. I like the smaller diameter wheel feel, although it's not as extreme as most race wheels. Probably a good compromise while retaining factory look. This wheel doesn't use a slip ring, (no airbag), so it's a good fix for those with a failing slip ring and want to upgrade wheel at the same time. This wheel is far better than the boring all black oversized wheel Patrick 97 M3/4 M-tech non-airbag wheel, still trying to fit e46 schnizter wheel -----Original Message----- From: Burgess, Kim L [mailto:kim.l.burgess@boeing.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:31 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Does this well work in the 96+E36M3s? Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:24:33 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: Does this well work in the 96+E36M3s? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ORIGINAL-BMW-M-TECH-2-SPORTS-STEERING-WHE EL-E36-E31_W0QQitemZ170100241006QQihZ007QQcategoryZ33704QQssPageNameZWDV WQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem TIA KLB ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Does this well work in the 96+E36M3s? - from Matt Bader
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:14:46 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Does this well work in the 96+E36M3s? I have had a lot of problems with slip-ring/horn on my stock wheel, so I wonder if it does not use a slip ring what that does to the horn functionality? Took dealer two weeks to fix it and it still works only intermittently. Hopefully it will work the day I go to inspection as "no horn = no pass" in Delaware. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA [mailto:Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:01 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Does this well work in the 96+E36M3s? Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:01:41 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Does this well work in the 96+E36M3s? I have the same one in my 97 M3/4. No airbag, so you set the SRS light off, or you can defeat, that if it really bothers you. I like the smaller diameter wheel feel, although it's not as extreme as most race wheels. Probably a good compromise while retaining factory look. This wheel doesn't use a slip ring, (no airbag), so it's a good fix for those with a failing slip ring and want to upgrade wheel at the same time. This wheel is far better than the boring all black oversized wheel Patrick 97 M3/4 M-tech non-airbag wheel, still trying to fit e46 schnizter wheel -----Original Message----- From: Burgess, Kim L [mailto:kim.l.burgess@boeing.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:31 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Does this well work in the 96+E36M3s? Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:24:33 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: Does this well work in the 96+E36M3s? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ORIGINAL-BMW-M-TECH-2-SPORTS-STEERING-WHE EL-E36-E31_W0QQitemZ170100241006QQihZ007QQcategoryZ33704QQssPageNameZWDV WQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem TIA KLB ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Best brake pad for sreet use? - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:10:24 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Best brake pad for sreet use? In a message dated 4/12/2007 3:43:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, debuhr@comcast.net writes: I don't see anyone saying anything about the Ultimates. Hopefully I made a good choice. They will be used 99% on the street. Dave, I have the Axxis Ultimates on the car now. After 2,000 miles they seem to behave much like the OEM Jurid pads but with much less dust. And they are super quiet. You should be happy. cheers, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005 / 2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & Rogue Engineering ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.