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#1. Subject: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:38:20 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: Subject: UUC Exhaust - Corsa > > From: "Matt Bader" mbader@exammaster.com > > Hi: > > I am looking for cat-back exhaust for 98 M3 w/ A.A. supercharger. > > I was wondering if anyone has heard-seen-installed the UUC RSC36 made by > Corsa? I have seen the videos on their site be need real-world > opinion. I > have received one highly favorable opinion so was looking for validation! I will go ahead and point out one of my posts from the archive: http://www.bmw-m.net/Digest/Archive_2005_04_digest_4215-4269/digest4236.htm#8 oh yeah, and this one: http://www.bmw-m.net/Digest/Archive_2005_06_digest_4315-4349/digest4346.htm#10 Both guys referenced in the posts above still have their cars and still love their UUC/Corsa exhaust systems. The guy with the 1997 M3 talks about every time he gets out of his car about how much he likes it. I have no affiliation with UUC other than having a few of their parts on my car. :-) Regards, Rich
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Subject: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Matt Bader
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:51:57 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Subject: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Thanks, Rich. The lady I just spoke to at UUC says they weigh 40 lbs which, if true, is a little disappointing. She also said they have no Dyno data which seems strange. Do you recall hearing anything about the weight or claimed performance gains of these units? I have also communicated with another list member who says he loves them, and they were easy to install. Matt 98 M3/4 Delaware -----Original Message----- From: Rich Dorffer [mailto:E36M3Digest@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:41 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Subject: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:38:20 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: Subject: UUC Exhaust - Corsa > > From: "Matt Bader" mbader@exammaster.com > > Hi: > > I am looking for cat-back exhaust for 98 M3 w/ A.A. supercharger. > > I was wondering if anyone has heard-seen-installed the UUC RSC36 made by > Corsa? I have seen the videos on their site be need real-world > opinion. I > have received one highly favorable opinion so was looking for validation! I will go ahead and point out one of my posts from the archive: http://www.bmw-m.net/Digest/Archive_2005_04_digest_4215-4269/digest4236.htm# 8 oh yeah, and this one: http://www.bmw-m.net/Digest/Archive_2005_06_digest_4315-4349/digest4346.htm# 10 Both guys referenced in the posts above still have their cars and still love their UUC/Corsa exhaust systems. The guy with the 1997 M3 talks about every time he gets out of his car about how much he likes it. I have no affiliation with UUC other than having a few of their parts on my car. :-) Regards, Rich ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#3. RE: [E36M3] UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Matt Bader
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:51:57 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] UUC Exhaust - Corsa Thanks, the guy is obviously very pleased with the system, although there are a couple of negative comments about modest HP increase. Looks to be much lighter than the stock system. I called UUC and they say it weighs 40 lbs (not much lighter than stock) and they have no dyno data. Given these factors + cost makes me lean more toward AA's Gen III set-up. But, still mulling this over. Matt _____ From: jeff.conner@yahoo.com [mailto:jeff.conner@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:22 AM To: Matt Bader; E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] UUC Exhaust - Corsa Matt, Dunno if you've read bimmerfest.com or not, but this thread may help your decision http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148148 <http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148148&highlight=UUC+RSC3 6> &highlight=UUC+RSC36 -jeff S52 Sedan (stock rear noisemaker) S50 Trackdog (B&B Triflo - the loud version) ----- Original Message ---- From: Matt Bader <mbader@exammaster.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 4:00:48 AM Subject: [E36M3] UUC Exhaust - Corsa Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:04:33 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Hi: I am looking for cat-back exhaust for 98 M3 w/ A.A. supercharger. I was wondering if anyone has heard-seen-installed the UUC RSC36 made by Corsa? I have seen the videos on their site be need real-world opinion. I have received one highly favorable opinion so was looking for validation! Thanks. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 Middletown, Delaware ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* _____ Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http:/autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc= X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM-> cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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#4. Re: [E36M3] UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:54:22 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] UUC Exhaust - Corsa HI, I don't have this UUC but the single muffler system "U". A little loud but doesn't drone. Wouldn't go back to stock. Don't know what the HP increase is, if any. Fit and quality are great. I would expect the Corsa to be better. Kent On Apr 13, 2007, at 7:20 AM, jeff.conner@yahoo.com wrote: > Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:21:32 -0700 (PDT) > From: jeff.conner@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] UUC Exhaust - Corsa > > Matt, > > Dunno if you've read bimmerfest.com or not, but this thread may > help your decision > > http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php? > t=148148&highlight=UUC+RSC36 > > -jeff > S52 Sedan (stock rear noisemaker) > S50 Trackdog (B&B Triflo - the loud version) > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Matt Bader <mbader@exammaster.com> > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 4:00:48 AM > Subject: [E36M3] UUC Exhaust - Corsa > > Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:04:33 -0400 > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > Subject: UUC Exhaust - Corsa > > Hi: > > > > I am looking for cat-back exhaust for 98 M3 w/ A.A. supercharger. > > > > I was wondering if anyone has heard-seen-installed the UUC RSC36 > made by > Corsa? I have seen the videos on their site be need real-world > opinion. I > have received one highly favorable opinion so was looking for > validation! > > > > Thanks. > > > > Matt Bader > > 98 M3/4 > > Middletown, Delaware > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Subject: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:05:37 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Subject: UUC Exhaust - Corsa On 4/13/07, Matt Bader <mbader@exammaster.com> wrote: > > Thanks, Rich. The lady I just spoke to at UUC says they weigh 40 lbs > which, > if true, is a little disappointing. It is still significantly less than the stock system which weighs something like 50 lbs. 40 lbs sounds like too much, I thought it was closer to 25-30 lbs. She also said they have no Dyno data > which seems strange. Do you recall hearing anything about the weight or > claimed performance gains of these units? I have also communicated with > another list member who says he loves them, and they were easy to install. Here is a link worth checking: http://www.europeancarweb.com/tech/0602ec_eurosport_obd_cam_kit_s52/ They mention a weight savings and a power gain. Knowing how Corsa designs their systems, I don't see how you gain more power from any other aftermarket system. Personally, I think the stock system is fairly efficient, power gains with any aftermarket system is going to be small. Installation is a snap, the exhaust fits perfectly. Regards, Rich
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#6. Re: [E36M3] UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from David Ngo
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:25:44 -0700 (PDT) From: David Ngo <rudngo@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] UUC Exhaust - Corsa I would not choose an exhaust based on any expected power gains as they will be minimal. Sound should probably be the first consideration, followed by weight IMHO. I personally have a AA Gen III and love it, but I have also heard the UUC Corsa exhaust and am a really big fan of its sound. Fit and finish also look very good. Dave ----- Original Message ---- From: Matt Bader <mbader@exammaster.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:50:50 AM Subject: RE: [E36M3] UUC Exhaust - Corsa Thanks, the guy is obviously very pleased with the system, although there are a couple of negative comments about modest HP increase. Looks to be much lighter than the stock system. I called UUC and they say it weighs 40 lbs (not much lighter than stock) and they have no dyno data. Given these factors + cost makes me lean more toward AA's Gen III set-up. But, still mulling this over. Matt
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#7. Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:25:58 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <rob@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Oops... a little bit of a misunderstanding there. 40lbs is the _shipping_ weight which includes the box and internal protective packaging. The actual unit itself weighs about 30.5lbs. "Modest" hp increase is a relative term... no E36 cat-back exhaust gives "huge" gains no matter what, of course. But in comparison to our other E36 exhaust, the System*U (which is one of the highest-producing systems at all, according to European Car magazine), the RSC36 develops _more_ low-end torque and effectively the same peak hp. We certainly do have dyno data, but do not publish it... it's a common mistake for graphs from different types of dynos to be compared, and also from different cars, which makes the actual comparison almost useless. The effort to eliminate that confusion is why we don't publish graphs. Accurate comparison results (such as EC's multi-unit test done before RSC36 existed) only occur with the same car on the same dyno, preferably on the same day. This eliminates variables such as stronger/weaker car, different dyno interpolation, and ambient temp/humidity/pressure effects. Hope that helps! - Rob Levinson UUC Motorwerks >Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:51:57 -0400 >From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] UUC Exhaust - Corsa > >Thanks, the guy is obviously very pleased with the system, although there >are a couple of negative comments about modest HP increase. Looks to be >much lighter than the stock system. I called UUC and they say it weighs 40 >lbs (not much lighter than stock) and they have no dyno data. Given these >factors + cost makes me lean more toward AA's Gen III set-up. But, still >mulling this over.
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Matt Bader
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:53:54 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Thanks, Rob. I knew that weight figure didn't sound right. The woman on the phone (don't fire her) said 45 lbs shipping, and then I asked her the actual weight of the unit, and she came back with the 40 lbs number. Basically, if you have a good sound, save weight, and get a couple of extra HP in the bargain, that's a good deal. I think you have answered my questions, and the Corsa is the one I am going to get. Thanks for all the feedback from everyone, much appreciated. Matt 98 M3/4 Middletown, DE -----Original Message----- From: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks [mailto:rob@shortshifter.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:31 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:25:58 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <rob@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Oops... a little bit of a misunderstanding there. 40lbs is the _shipping_ weight which includes the box and internal protective packaging. The actual unit itself weighs about 30.5lbs. "Modest" hp increase is a relative term... no E36 cat-back exhaust gives "huge" gains no matter what, of course. But in comparison to our other E36 exhaust, the System*U (which is one of the highest-producing systems at all, according to European Car magazine), the RSC36 develops _more_ low-end torque and effectively the same peak hp. We certainly do have dyno data, but do not publish it... it's a common mistake for graphs from different types of dynos to be compared, and also from different cars, which makes the actual comparison almost useless. The effort to eliminate that confusion is why we don't publish graphs. Accurate comparison results (such as EC's multi-unit test done before RSC36 existed) only occur with the same car on the same dyno, preferably on the same day. This eliminates variables such as stronger/weaker car, different dyno interpolation, and ambient temp/humidity/pressure effects. Hope that helps! - Rob Levinson UUC Motorwerks >Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:51:57 -0400 >From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] UUC Exhaust - Corsa > >Thanks, the guy is obviously very pleased with the system, although there >are a couple of negative comments about modest HP increase. Looks to be >much lighter than the stock system. I called UUC and they say it weighs 40 >lbs (not much lighter than stock) and they have no dyno data. Given these >factors + cost makes me lean more toward AA's Gen III set-up. But, still >mulling this over. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#9. Aluminum Radiator - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:03:51 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Aluminum Radiator Hi, I was doing some brake shopping and found this: https://secure1.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/product_detail.asp? CS=ireland&RowID=705&All= Looks decent and not real expensive. Probably will buy one next time. Kent
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from jeff.conner@yahoo.com
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:12:06 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff.conner@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Rob, Just as a matter of asking, do you know what the sound output is on these at WOT? I'm currently looking for a light catback that I can put on my track car permanent-like so I don't have to swap in the stocker every time I want to run at Laguna Seca (with their ludicrous 92dB rule on regular track days). My B&B currently makes 98dB at 35 feet. Thanks -jeff S52 Sedan (stock noismaker) S50 Trackdog (B&B Triflo - the LOUD version) ----- Original Message ---- From: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <rob@shortshifter.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 9:30:50 AM Subject: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:25:58 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <rob@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Oops... a little bit of a misunderstanding there. 40lbs is the _shipping_ weight which includes the box and internal protective packaging. The actual unit itself weighs about 30.5lbs. "Modest" hp increase is a relative term... no E36 cat-back exhaust gives "huge" gains no matter what, of course. But in comparison to our other E36 exhaust, the System*U (which is one of the highest-producing systems at all, according to European Car magazine), the RSC36 develops _more_ low-end torque and effectively the same peak hp. We certainly do have dyno data, but do not publish it... it's a common mistake for graphs from different types of dynos to be compared, and also from different cars, which makes the actual comparison almost useless. The effort to eliminate that confusion is why we don't publish graphs. Accurate comparison results (such as EC's multi-unit test done before RSC36 existed) only occur with the same car on the same dyno, preferably on the same day. This eliminates variables such as stronger/weaker car, different dyno interpolation, and ambient temp/humidity/pressure effects. Hope that helps! - Rob Levinson UUC Motorwerks >Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:51:57 -0400 >From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] UUC Exhaust - Corsa > >Thanks, the guy is obviously very pleased with the system, although there >are a couple of negative comments about modest HP increase. Looks to be >much lighter than the stock system. I called UUC and they say it weighs 40 >lbs (not much lighter than stock) and they have no dyno data. Given these >factors + cost makes me lean more toward AA's Gen III set-up. But, still >mulling this over. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com