E36M3 #5221

Friday, April 13, 2007 15:31:12

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#1. Euro AirBag 3-Spoke Wheel? - from Burgess, Kim L
#2. RE: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Burgess, Kim L
#3. Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Lawrence Barbieri
#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Dave DeBuhr
#5. Re: [E36M3] RE: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Kent L. Shephard
#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Kent L. Shephard
#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Jim Bassett
#8. RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Matt Bader
#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks
#10. Fwd: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? - from Bill Sharp

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#1. Euro AirBag 3-Spoke Wheel? - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:16:26 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: Euro AirBag 3-Spoke Wheel? Will this wheel work with USA SRS electronics? http://i16.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/97/c3/093a_1_b.JPG TIA KLB

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#2. RE: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:36:38 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Is the Corsa the UUC twin-can system from this test? http://www.europeancarweb.com/tech/0301ec_bmw_e36_exhaust_testing/ -------------------- 5 -------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:05:37 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Here is a link worth checking: http://www.europeancarweb.com/tech/0602ec_eurosport_obd_cam_kit_s52/ They mention a weight savings and a power gain. Knowing how Corsa designs their systems, I don't see how you gain more power from any other aftermarket system. Personally, I think the stock system is fairly efficient, power gains with any aftermarket system is going to be small. Installation is a snap, the exhaust fits perfectly. Regards, Rich

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#3. Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Lawrence Barbieri
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:59:19 -0400 From: "Lawrence Barbieri" <larry@logicalconclusions.com> Subject: Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Matt, I'll validate for you. I just put one of these on my '95 M3. First, I weighed the stock muffler and this one and the weight savings is roughly 20 lbs. Significant in my opinion. Second, the sound is very nice. Everybody (and I mostly mean my track rat friends) love the thing. The owner of the shop where I take the car for service said, "that's the way a car is supposed to sound". Third, when he put it up on the lift and looked at the unit he was very impressed with the quality of the work, especially the welding. I've had 2 other people that do welding look at it and say, "damn, the welding on this thing is awesome!". Fourth, it fits perfectly, no muss no fuss. Once the old one was off and the hangers were moved to the new one, it took 10 minutes to put it back on. No Dyno data yet, but I will have some in May. But, the butt dyno says, yes there is a bit more ummph under the hood ( I also have a set of shorty headers, so I am expecting a little gain in power/torque). I should be at the track right now wringing this thing out, but alas spring refuses to come to New England and our event was canceled for today because of yesterday's impending snow storm. But next weekend Watkins Glen will be getting an earful of this beautiful sounding exhaust! - Larry > > > > From: "Matt Bader" mbader@exammaster.com > > > > Hi: > > > > I am looking for cat-back exhaust for 98 M3 w/ A.A. supercharger. > > > > I was wondering if anyone has heard-seen-installed the UUC RSC36 made by > > Corsa? I have seen the videos on their site be need real-world > > opinion. I > > have received one highly favorable opinion so was looking for > validation! > > >

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:11:45 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa You won't be dissapointed. One thing to note, the sound changes after driving it for a couple days. It must be the packing in the resonators or something. When I first put it on I was like, "Oh crap, this thing is friggin LOUD." But after driving it around a little, it quieted down quite a bit. Now I think it is just about perfect. Going WOT through underpasses/tunnels is a whole new experience. :) -----Original Message----- I think you have answered my questions, and the Corsa is the one I am going to get. Thanks for all the feedback from everyone, much appreciated. Matt 98 M3/4 Middletown, DE -

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#5. Re: [E36M3] RE: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:09:28 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: UUC Exhaust - Corsa No, it's the System-U (version 1) at that. I have the updated version. it's definitely not he Corsa. On Apr 13, 2007, at 10:40 AM, Burgess, Kim L wrote: > Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:36:38 -0700 > From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> > Subject: RE: UUC Exhaust - Corsa > > Is the Corsa the UUC twin-can system from this test? > > http://www.europeancarweb.com/tech/0301ec_bmw_e36_exhaust_testing/ > > -------------------- 5 --------------------

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:12:45 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Funny. People move next to a race track then complain about the noise. Move next to an airport hen complain about traffic and jets. I don't get it, 92dB for a race car... I've been going to races at Laguna Seca for more than two decades, Sears Point also. Kent On Apr 13, 2007, at 10:10 AM, jeff.conner@yahoo.com wrote: > Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:12:06 -0700 (PDT) > From: jeff.conner@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa > > Rob, > > Just as a matter of asking, do you know what the sound output is on > these at WOT? > > I'm currently looking for a light catback that I can put on my > track car permanent-like so I don't have to swap in the stocker > every time I want to run at Laguna Seca (with their ludicrous 92dB > rule on regular track days). My B&B currently makes 98dB at 35 feet. > > Thanks > -jeff > S52 Sedan (stock noismaker) > S50 Trackdog (B&B Triflo - the LOUD version) >

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:42:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa On Fri, April 13, 2007 11:20 am, Kent L. Shephard said: > Funny. > People move next to a race track then complain about the noise. > Move next to an airport hen complain about traffic and jets. Agreed. > I don't get it, 92dB for a race car... Not to necessarily defend LS, but the 92dB days are mostly for "club" type events, like schools, etc. "Real" race weekends do get higher dB limits - for example the upcoming SCCA Vintage/BMW Club Race weekend has a limit of either 101dB or 103dB (time-of-day dependent). And FWIW (and I've probably mentioned before), the JP car has not had any sound issues in the 5 years I've been attending events there with it - "low" and "high" sound limits. JimC intake/chip, cams & RE exhaust (stock cats still in place). Jim Bassett

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Matt Bader
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:54:14 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Thanks, Larry, good to hear. I think 20 lbs is significant. Thanks all for the feedback. Wonder if anyone got any work done today!??? Matt -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Barbieri [mailto:larry@logicalconclusions.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:01 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:59:19 -0400 From: "Lawrence Barbieri" <larry@logicalconclusions.com> Subject: Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Matt, I'll validate for you. I just put one of these on my '95 M3. First, I weighed the stock muffler and this one and the weight savings is roughly 20 lbs. Significant in my opinion. Second, the sound is very nice. Everybody (and I mostly mean my track rat friends) love the thing. The owner of the shop where I take the car for service said, "that's the way a car is supposed to sound". Third, when he put it up on the lift and looked at the unit he was very impressed with the quality of the work, especially the welding. I've had 2 other people that do welding look at it and say, "damn, the welding on this thing is awesome!". Fourth, it fits perfectly, no muss no fuss. Once the old one was off and the hangers were moved to the new one, it took 10 minutes to put it back on. No Dyno data yet, but I will have some in May. But, the butt dyno says, yes there is a bit more ummph under the hood ( I also have a set of shorty headers, so I am expecting a little gain in power/torque). I should be at the track right now wringing this thing out, but alas spring refuses to come to New England and our event was canceled for today because of yesterday's impending snow storm. But next weekend Watkins Glen will be getting an earful of this beautiful sounding exhaust! - Larry > > > > From: "Matt Bader" mbader@exammaster.com > > > > Hi: > > > > I am looking for cat-back exhaust for 98 M3 w/ A.A. supercharger. > > > > I was wondering if anyone has heard-seen-installed the UUC RSC36 made by > > Corsa? I have seen the videos on their site be need real-world > > opinion. I > > have received one highly favorable opinion so was looking for > validation! > > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa - from Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:01:36 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <rob@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa Hi Jeff, Sorry, I don't have a measurement done exactly by that 35-foot method, but I do have preliminary SAE J1169 certification figures. Many statutory bodies around the world currently mandate that vehicles comply with stationary exhaust noise tests specifications - Generally based upon the "SAE J1169 Measurement of Light Vehicle Exhaust Sound Level under Stationary Conditions". California and various other states now have legislation that makes exceeding this limit an offense, resulting in a "fix it" ticket and required testing certification. The test involves positioning a type 1, SIA compliant ANSI S1.4 - 1983 noise level meter, specifically as illustrated in the diagram: http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/tse3/noise_test.gif Positioning is relevant, the tests are extremely specific in their scope and must be conducted under controlled conditions. The test mandates that sound level must not exceed 95dB. The RSC36 unofficially passes the SAE J1169 test, or "officially" as some of our customers in CA have taken their M3s in to testing centers there. - Rob Levinson UUC Motorwerks ----- Original Message ----- From: <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: UUC Exhaust - Corsa > Rob, > > Just as a matter of asking, do you know what the sound output is on these at WOT? > > I'm currently looking for a light catback that I can put on my track car permanent-like so I don't have to swap in the stocker every time I want to run at Laguna Seca (with their ludicrous 92dB rule on regular track days). My B&B currently makes 98dB at 35 feet. > > Thanks > -jeff > S52 Sedan (stock noismaker) > S50 Trackdog (B&B Triflo - the LOUD version)

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#10. Fwd: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? - from Bill Sharp
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:23:21 -0500 From: Bill Sharp <M3@cueframe.us> Subject: Fwd: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? Uh, why? Is it because the water flows too fast without some restriction? Tnx, Bill 2/22/99 Coupe Begin forwarded message: > From: <Jon@Treehouseracing.com> > Date: April 13, 2007 1:20:48 AM CDT > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? > Reply-To: <Jon@Treehouseracing.com> > > Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:14:24 -0500 > From: <Jon@Treehouseracing.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? > >> The gutted thermostat was not the reason for you overheating. >> > > > Uh... Yes it probably was. you cannot run an M50 engine of any > kind without a t-stat, it'll overheat. They're not like 70's > American v8 engines that you can just pull it and it will run cooler. > Brett? > > Jon > > ______________________________________________ > > Jon Siccardi - DM #053 > TreehouseRacing.com > M50conversion.com > 615.333.9118 > ______________________________________________ > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Dorffer" > <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:40 AM > Subject: [E36M3] How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? > > >> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 08:39:44 -0400 >> From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> >> Subject: How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling system? >> >>> >>> From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: How to get rid of Air pocket in cooling >>> system? >>> >>> > So the question is track day w open thermostat or no track day. >>> >>> I have tried running with a gutted thermostat twice and it didn't >>> work >>> either time, the car overheated like crazy, it just didn't do it >>> until >>> the cooldown lap. Although that was right before I replaced my head >>> gasket, hmmm - coincidence? >> >> >> The gutted thermostat was not the reason for you overheating. >> >> Regards, >> >> Rich >> >> >> ************************************************* >> Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >> >> Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >> Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >> Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >> Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >> Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >> Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com >> >> DIGEST INFORMATION: >> http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >> ************************************************* >> > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > Bill Ft. Worth 2/22/99 Coupe

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