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#1. Exhaust Choices - from Foley, Brian
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:05:15 -0400 From: "Foley, Brian" <bfoley@cmpd.org> Subject: Exhaust Choices I have the Rogue Engineering DMS exhaust on my '97 sedan for three years now. I have thoroughly enjoyed the sound, which is just loud enough for me but not so loud as to completely annoy the wife on the highway. It doesn't seem to have mellowed or loudened over the years and the weld/material quality is excellent. I would say it is louder than Borla or Supersprint but quieter than UUC's system. Rogue's is 29lbs, 20 less than stock and I highly recommend. Brian Foley
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Exhaust Choices - from Matt Bader
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:11:56 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Exhaust Choices Thanks Brian. How does the exhaust sound at cruising speed? Any droning or annoying frequencies? Just when I think I have made a decision (UUC Corsa) someone weighs in with a reasonable alternate suggestion!! I, too, appreciate everyone on this list. Some people's knowledge astounds me. I am new to the world of BMW, work crazy hours, and have limited time to research stuff. Everyone's input has been a great help to me. Eventually I need to check out the track scene, as that seems to be where all the fun (and probably aggravation) is. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Foley, Brian [mailto:bfoley@cmpd.org] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:21 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Exhaust Choices Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:05:15 -0400 From: "Foley, Brian" <bfoley@cmpd.org> Subject: Exhaust Choices I have the Rogue Engineering DMS exhaust on my '97 sedan for three years now. I have thoroughly enjoyed the sound, which is just loud enough for me but not so loud as to completely annoy the wife on the highway. It doesn't seem to have mellowed or loudened over the years and the weld/material quality is excellent. I would say it is louder than Borla or Supersprint but quieter than UUC's system. Rogue's is 29lbs, 20 less than stock and I highly recommend. Brian Foley ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Rear camber arms for STU/Fender Rub - from Chris Teague
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:10:18 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear camber arms for STU/Fender Rub Paul, All of the STU M3's I've looked at do rub there. As long as it's only an occasional light rub, it's probably no big deal. Otherwise, going up to a 600 or 650 will help some, as would raising the ride height. You are correct that that rub is likely not a bushing issue. Chris ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Chris, > You do understand where the rub is. :-) > I could easily do # 3 or #4, or a little of both. I'm running the GC > barrel-shaped springs in the rear, I think the rate is 545lbs. Think a > 600 > or 650 would do it? Cheaper and easier than camber arms. > I will change the bushings at some point, but I'm pretty sure they're OK > now, the car only has 24k miles.
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Looking for a trunk handle - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:39:52 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Looking for a trunk handle On 4/16/07, Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> wrote: > Curiosity has me on this one: what's wrong with the license plate frame or the >license plate itself? I'd think the raised letters of the license plate would almost be >sufficient for that level of grip required. I could be missing something No you're not. I think I bought that part like 10 years ago and I'm guessing it has sat in a box for at least 9 years since. Eventually I bought a car with a different color so the finger prints don't show. :-) Carlos x95 M3 diamond shwartz metallic 98 M3 some kind of silver, the cool looking one :-D
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#5. Re: Looking for a trunk handle - from sosheal@pol.net
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:00:26 -0400 (EDT) From: <sosheal@pol.net> Subject: Re: Looking for a trunk handle Trunk handle is also available from IPD. $15.50 plus shipping. http://www.ipdusa.com/ProductsCat.aspx?CategoryID=478&NodeID=207&RootID=629 Steven
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Exhaust Choices - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:08:14 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Exhaust Choices Personally, I go get my local exhaust shop custom make one for me. I looked at a Super Sprint system for my 540i and it was > $800 just for the parts. Went down to my local Magnaflow dealer and he custom bent a setup with a nice sounding Magnaflow muffler for $240. Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red Become a BMW CCA Member! Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Bader [mailto:mbader@exammaster.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:11 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Exhaust Choices Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:11:56 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Exhaust Choices Thanks Brian. How does the exhaust sound at cruising speed? Any droning or annoying frequencies? Just when I think I have made a decision (UUC Corsa) someone weighs in with a reasonable alternate suggestion!! I, too, appreciate everyone on this list. Some people's knowledge astounds me. I am new to the world of BMW, work crazy hours, and have limited time to research stuff. Everyone's input has been a great help to me. Eventually I need to check out the track scene, as that seems to be where all the fun (and probably aggravation) is. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Foley, Brian [mailto:bfoley@cmpd.org] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:21 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Exhaust Choices Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:05:15 -0400 From: "Foley, Brian" <bfoley@cmpd.org> Subject: Exhaust Choices I have the Rogue Engineering DMS exhaust on my '97 sedan for three years now. I have thoroughly enjoyed the sound, which is just loud enough for me but not so loud as to completely annoy the wife on the highway. It doesn't seem to have mellowed or loudened over the years and the weld/material quality is excellent. I would say it is louder than Borla or Supersprint but quieter than UUC's system. Rogue's is 29lbs, 20 less than stock and I highly recommend. Brian Foley ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/762 - Release Date: 4/15/2007 4:22 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/762 - Release Date: 4/15/2007 4:22 PM
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#7. RE: thermostat temp - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:39:03 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: thermostat temp There was a lot of chatter here a couple years ago with regard to OE thermostat temps. What I have found in my cars is that my 99M3 (04/99 build) came with an OE 88C (=190.4F) T-Stat and my wife's 97 (9/96 build) came with a 92C (=197.6F) T-Stat. If I remember correctly that is also reflective of what realoem.com (ETK) indicates. I don't know what the S50/M50 came with but I'm guessing an 88C. After MY 95 I believe BMW bumped up the temp (at least in the non-M products) to help clean up emissions. A 71C (=159.8F) would be what I considered a 'race' T-Stat. In the days of my running small block Chevrolets there would be more available power from running a 160F T-Stat, I don't know if it holds true for the S50/S52. (This low temperature also accelerated the wear rate.
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Fault Code Question - from Grant Fairweather
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:52:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Grant Fairweather <grantfairweather@sbcglobal.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Fault Code Question >My '97 M3/4 keeps throwing a CEL. My Peake reader has twice indicated >Code #F6 "Secondary Air System too low, Cylinders #4-6". >Could someone please translate for me? Is this an Oxygen Sensor going >bad? A control valve? If anyone has seen this before, please advise so >I'll know what to go after. >Brian Foley I'm in the process of replacing my secondary air pump. Although it only cycles on for a couple of minutes, it has gotten very loud and scares small children. I am sourcing a replacement part as I type, but will also take a close look at it's associated air valve; part #14: (http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=CD93&mospid=47504&btnr=11_1539&hg=11&fg=45 Not much info out there on this topic, but from what I understand, moisture can find it's way into the system and can negatively impact both the pump and the valve. Perhaps your valve is compromised and is therefore restricting air flow. Out of pure curiosity, I'm going to dissect my pump and valve to see what makes them tick. Grant 98 M3/4 Chicago
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#9. RE: Thermostat temp - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:40:23 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Thermostat temp Realoem.com for 6/94 95M3 THERMOSTAT 88CEL ended 12/1995 11537511580 THERMOSTAT 92CEL 11537511083 Realoem.com for 4/99 99M3 THERMOSTAT 88CEL 11537511580 Looks like BMW is using the hotter T-Stat in the 95 MYs to clean-up emissions. -------------------- 2 -------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:42:58 EDT From: Shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Thermostat temp I have the whole front end off the car as I install the new Zionsville aluminum radiator and a new condenser and misc A/C parts. I took the thermostat housing off while in there and got a new one at the dealer. The one I took out said 71 degrees and the one for the dealer says 92 degrees. on the top. I know you can get different temps, what is the general consensus on the best temp? Shel 1995 M3 2002 Boxster S
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Exhaust Choices - from Brian Ruiz
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:53:09 -0700 From: "Brian Ruiz" <eurowerke@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Exhaust Choices But then, that's where the droning is often introduced, as those mufflers are not tuned specifically for our cars, which will cause some odd resonances. OT, but my friend has a 2004 Tiburon that he got a Magnaflow welded on to from the local shop, and it's incredibly irritating to be cruising in it. His wife also can't stand riding in his car now. Brian On 4/17/07, Paul L Fisher <bmw@paul-fisher.com> wrote: > > Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:08:14 -0500 > From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Exhaust Choices > > Personally, I go get my local exhaust shop custom make one for me. I > looked > at a Super Sprint system for my 540i and it was > $800 just for the parts. > Went down to my local Magnaflow dealer and he custom bent a setup with a > nice sounding Magnaflow muffler for $240. > > Paul L Fisher > > 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic > 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red > > Become a BMW CCA Member! > > Elkhorn, WI. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Bader [mailto:mbader@exammaster.com] > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:11 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Exhaust Choices > > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:11:56 -0400 > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Exhaust Choices > > Thanks Brian. > > How does the exhaust sound at cruising speed? Any droning or annoying > frequencies? > > Just when I think I have made a decision (UUC Corsa) someone weighs in > with > a reasonable alternate suggestion!! > > I, too, appreciate everyone on this list. Some people's knowledge > astounds > me. I am new to the world of BMW, work crazy hours, and have limited time > to research stuff. Everyone's input has been a great help to me. > Eventually I need to check out the track scene, as that seems to be where > all the fun (and probably aggravation) is. > > Matt Bader > 98 M3/4 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Foley, Brian [mailto:bfoley@cmpd.org] > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:21 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Exhaust Choices > > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:05:15 -0400 > From: "Foley, Brian" <bfoley@cmpd.org> > Subject: Exhaust Choices > > I have the Rogue Engineering DMS exhaust on my '97 sedan for three years > now. I have thoroughly enjoyed the sound, which is just loud enough for > me but not so loud as to completely annoy the wife on the highway. It > doesn't seem to have mellowed or loudened over the years and the > weld/material quality is excellent. I would say it is louder than Borla > or Supersprint but quieter than UUC's system. Rogue's is 29lbs, 20 less > than stock and I highly recommend. > > Brian Foley > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/762 - Release Date: 4/15/2007 > 4:22 PM > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/762 - Release Date: 4/15/2007 > 4:22 PM > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >