E36M3 #5234

Monday, April 23, 2007 16:16:00

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. RE: Driving shoes - from bob thomas
#2. RE: [E36M3] Driving Shoes - from Dave DeBuhr
#3. Re: [E36M3] RE: Driving shoes - from Peter Loron
#4. Parts on the 'Bay - from Nancy and Bob Fluharty
#5. Coolant venting? - from Peter Loron
#6. Re: [E36M3] Coolant venting? - from Tom Melton
#7. RE: [E36M3] Coolant venting? - from Matt Bader
#8. Re: [E36M3] Coolant venting? - from Peter Loron
#9. Rotor deposits - from Gus Iverson
#10. Re: [E36M3] Coolant venting? - from Peter Loron

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#1. RE: Driving shoes - from bob thomas
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 02:18:01 +0000 From: "bob thomas" <bobthomas18@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Driving shoes I've been told that wrestling shoes are a good cheap substitute. They may be available locally at an athletic shoe store. _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07

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#2. RE: [E36M3] Driving Shoes - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:38:28 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Driving Shoes Do a search for Puma Speedcats. -----Original Message----- From: jbjerke@charter.net [mailto:jbjerke@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:26 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Driving Shoes Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:20:41 -0700 From: <jbjerke@charter.net> Subject: Driving Shoes I'm looking to replace my high top driving shoes and leaning towards something less aggressive that can be worn the entire driving school weekend. Piloti has several touring shoes that are supposed to be very similar to racing shoes less the fireproof Nomex and a little more support for added comfort. I like all the feel have with my current shoes, but the high tops make them difficult to put on and remove as well as being uncomfortable out of the car. I don't want a shoe that is a glorified verson of a typical tennis shoe and making me wish for some more feel while on track. These are going to be used as track shoes and I'm willing to trade some feel for comfort, but I don't want to trade too much. Does anyone have any recommendations/comments? Please respond directly to me as I'm in digest form and need to order Monday so I have them for Road America on Friday. Thanks. Jeff Bjerke 98 M3 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#3. Re: [E36M3] RE: Driving shoes - from Peter Loron
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:20:53 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Driving shoes I think that's true, as long as you don't want/require the fire protection of "real" driving shoes. I used a pair of indoor soccer shoes for a while that worked pretty good, too. -Pete On 4/22/07, bob thomas <bobthomas18@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 02:18:01 +0000 > From: "bob thomas" <bobthomas18@hotmail.com> > Subject: RE: Driving shoes > > I've been told that wrestling shoes are a good cheap substitute. They may > be > available locally at an athletic shoe store. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. > > http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07 > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#4. Parts on the 'Bay - from Nancy and Bob Fluharty
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:07:22 -0400 From: "Nancy and Bob Fluharty" <fluhar@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Parts on the 'Bay Cleaned out the basement and I've put some things on eBay, including an E36 AC compressor, E30 front strut brace, a decent E30 muffler, and some photo stuff. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZbfluQQhtZ-1 Bob Fluharty 87 325is/3.0 Cincinnati

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#5. Coolant venting? - from Peter Loron
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:20:00 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Coolant venting? Ok, so after doing a head R&R and cooling system replacement on my 98M3, I've been watching to cooling system carefully. I'm seeing what I think is evidence of coolant coming out from the filler cap and being slung around the engine bay by the fan. Is this normal if the coolant level is a little too high (overfilled)? -Pete

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Coolant venting? - from Tom Melton
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:33:07 -0400 From: "Tom Melton" <Tom.Melton@emoryhealthcare.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coolant venting? Pete, That is certainly one cause for it, the other is a leaking head gasket which pressurizes the cooling system - I know, not what you want to hear after a head R&R. Another cause is a faulty radiator cap. What did you do to the head and block prior to re-installation, and what head gasket did you use? I am about to do the head R&R job due to a failing head gasket and pressurized cooling system... -Tom >>> "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> 4/23/2007 3:25 PM >>> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:20:00 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Coolant venting? Ok, so after doing a head R&R and cooling system replacement on my 98M3, I've been watching to cooling system carefully. I'm seeing what I think is evidence of coolant coming out from the filler cap and being slung around the engine bay by the fan. Is this normal if the coolant level is a little too high (overfilled)? -Pete

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Coolant venting? - from Matt Bader
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:40:38 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coolant venting? I did a radiator R & R, and seemed to have encountered the same problem. Would find small puddles of coolant under the car, but no obvious signs of leakage anywhere, no steaming or pressure leaks. Seems to have worked itself out once I had the coolant level adjusted. But can't say for sure whether that was the issue. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Loron [mailto:peterloron@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 3:26 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Coolant venting? Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:20:00 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Coolant venting? Ok, so after doing a head R&R and cooling system replacement on my 98M3, I've been watching to cooling system carefully. I'm seeing what I think is evidence of coolant coming out from the filler cap and being slung around the engine bay by the fan. Is this normal if the coolant level is a little too high (overfilled)? -Pete ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Coolant venting? - from Peter Loron
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:44:47 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coolant venting? Wheee. I have a new cap now, and will install that to see how things go. IIRC, there's a pretty easy test to see if you're getting blow from the engine into the coolant... The head was repaired (cracked threads in the #3 plug well), and resurfaced. I cleaned the block with a razor and gasket remover and something else to degrease it...either 99% isopropyl or acetone. I used the Victor Reinz HG kit. My wife is going to shoot me if I need to re-do the HG. Sigh. -Pete On 4/23/07, Tom Melton <Tom.Melton@emoryhealthcare.org> wrote: > > Pete, > > That is certainly one cause for it, the other is a leaking head gasket > which pressurizes the cooling system - I know, not what you want to hear > after a head R&R. Another cause is a faulty radiator cap. > > What did you do to the head and block prior to re-installation, and what > head gasket did you use? > > I am about to do the head R&R job due to a failing head gasket and > pressurized cooling system... > > -Tom > > >>> "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> 4/23/2007 3:25 PM >>> > Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:20:00 -0700 > From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> > Subject: Coolant venting? > > Ok, so after doing a head R&R and cooling system replacement on my 98M3, > I've been watching to cooling system carefully. > > I'm seeing what I think is evidence of coolant coming out from the filler > cap and being slung around the engine bay by the fan. > > Is this normal if the coolant level is a little too high (overfilled)? > > -Pete > >

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#9. Rotor deposits - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:19:34 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Rotor deposits After the 4/20 BMW school at Pacific Raceways, I had some serious shudder from the brakes after the drive home. I removed the rotors from all 4 corners, cleaned them with brake clean, and generally inspected the system, finding no other obvious problems. The inside of the FR rotor had deposits I could feel easily through my latex gloves. Considering my mechanical abilities, getting this done in just about 3.5 hours, I was most pleased. Driving the car after the job the brakes were hugely improved, but there was still a shudder that worsened over the course of running some errands. I intend to take the FR apart again tonight to more seriously attempt to remove the deposits. I understand that sandpaper is an accecptable means to do so. What grit should I be using for this job? I'm guessing something like 200+. Other thoughts on how to address this? I used most of a can of brake clean and some paper towels to get much of it off.

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Coolant venting? - from Peter Loron
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:15:58 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coolant venting? On 4/23/07, Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> wrote: > > Peter Loron wrote: > > Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:20:00 -0700 > > From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> > > Subject: Coolant venting? > > > > Ok, so after doing a head R&R and cooling system replacement on my 98M3, > > I've been watching to cooling system carefully. > > > > I'm seeing what I think is evidence of coolant coming out from the > filler > > cap and being slung around the engine bay by the fan. > > > > Is this normal if the coolant level is a little too high (overfilled)? > > > > -Pete > > > Pete, > > I don't believe this is normal. On my initial fill, I filled to top, > and if any coolant escaped it was very little and did so on the first > test drive. Thereafter was completely normal. If at this stage you are > experiencing coolant overflow, it may be due to a leak in the new head > gasket/head. May want to do a leakdown test. > > Thanks, > Mark A bit more detail: After the initial fill of the system, I did have to put in a bit more to top it up. A few days later, I opened the cap before leaving work to check the level. It was normal. One the drive home I saw the temp needle go above the center, so I quickly pulled over and shut it off. This was all in about 20 seconds. I caught it right as it started to creep up. As far as I could tell (trying to watch the needle, and the road), it never reached the white line to the right of center. There was coolant and steam coming from the cap. I waited a little while for it to cool off, and topped the tank up pretty full (well above the "cold" line and over the divider). Since then I've seen this spatter, apparently from the cap. My hope: when I checked the level that day, I simply did not tighten the cap sufficiently. When I filled it, I put in too much, which has since been spitting out once the car gets hot. I put a new cap on before heading out to lunch. After a few miles of driving and a couple stops, I checked the car back at work. I didn't see any evidence of new spatter, but it wasn't a very long drive.

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