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#1. Re: [E36M3] Coolant venting? - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:05:08 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coolant venting? On 4/23/07, Peter Loron <peterloron@gmail.com> wrote: > A few days later, I opened the cap before leaving work to check the level. > It was normal. One the drive home I saw the temp needle go above the center, Clue here, needle indicates something wrong. > so I quickly pulled over and shut it off. This was all in about 20 seconds. > I caught it right as it started to creep up. As far as I could tell (trying > to watch the needle, and the road), it never reached the white line to the > right of center. There was coolant and steam coming from the cap. I waited a > little while for it to cool off, and topped the tank up pretty full (well > above the "cold" line and over the divider). At this point you should've bled it instead of topping it off but it may have been too late and the system had boiled over. > Since then I've seen this spatter, apparently from the cap. Your system still has air in it in my opinion. You need to re-bleed your coolant system. Yours may be like mine and very difficult to get all the air out. Don't allow it to boil over you need to get a steady flow of coolant out of the bleeder before it gets to the point where all it does is steam out of there. That part at least on my car has proven to be very tricky. Carlos 98 M3
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Rotor deposits - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 00:04:36 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rotor deposits > Other thoughts on how to address this? I used most of a can of brake > clean and some paper towels to get much of it off. Assuming the rotor isn't warped, you should be able to clear up the problem by bedding in the brake pads again. Do several 30 to 5 mph decelerations using moderate brake pressure (do not stop all the way), then do several 45 to 5 mph decelerations with medium brake pressure then a couple of 60 mph to 5 mph decelerations at maximum braking (activate the ABS), then park the car for an hour. This procedure should completely clean off any deposits that remain from the track. Regards Jamie Howton 06 M Roadster 04 645Ci 95 M3
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Rotor deposits - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 22:18:34 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Rotor deposits Maybe drive around for 10-15 minutes before parking it??? -----Original Message----- then a couple of 60 mph to 5 mph decelerations at maximum braking (activate the ABS), then park the car for an hour. This procedure should completely clean off any deposits that remain from the track.
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#4. E36 rims and tires for sale on ebay - from Chris Turrisi
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:32:26 -0400 From: Chris Turrisi <cturrisi@worldnet.att.net> Subject: E36 rims and tires for sale on ebay Ok gang, I have two sets of E36 fitment rims for sale on ebay: 1) (4) 15 x 7.5 Borbet's, with Pilot sport cup tires for $350 + $100 for shipping http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=110116679785&rd=1&rd=1 and 2) (4)15 x 7.5 Kosei's with no tires for sale for $350 + $75 for shipping http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110116679580 - Chris
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Rotor deposits - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:43:55 -0400 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rotor deposits I agree with Jamie, however, after the bedding I would drive the car about 5 - 10 minutes without using the brakes (ie, Highway) to cool things down. Fortunately for me, my work parking lot is 30 seconds from the highway! cheers, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering -----Original Message----- From: jhowton@gmail.com To: e36m3@bmw-m.net Sent: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rotor deposits Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 00:04:36 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rotor deposits > Other thoughts on how to address this? I used most of a can of brake > clean and some paper towels to get much of it off. Assuming the rotor isn't warped, you should be able to clear up the problem by bedding in the brake pads again. Do several 30 to 5 mph decelerations using moderate brake pressure (do not stop all the way), then do several 45 to 5 mph decelerations with medium brake pressure then a couple of 60 mph to 5 mph decelerations at maximum braking (activate the ABS), then park the car for an hour. This procedure should completely clean off any deposits that remain from the track. Regards Jamie Howton 06 M Roadster 04 645Ci 95 M3 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Coolant venting? - from Peter Loron
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:22:56 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coolant venting? I sincerely hope you're right and there's just some air trapped in there from my shenanigans. Or maybe the thermostat I just installed in there is bad...something other than a blown HG. It's at the shop right now for some diagnostic help. Man this is a serious bummer. -Pete On 4/23/07, Carlos Lopez <clopez98m3@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 4/23/07, Peter Loron <peterloron@gmail.com> wrote: > > A few days later, I opened the cap before leaving work to check the > level. > > It was normal. One the drive home I saw the temp needle go above the > center, > > Clue here, needle indicates something wrong. > > > so I quickly pulled over and shut it off. This was all in about 20 > seconds. > > I caught it right as it started to creep up. As far as I could tell > (trying > > to watch the needle, and the road), it never reached the white line to > the > > right of center. There was coolant and steam coming from the cap. I > waited a > > little while for it to cool off, and topped the tank up pretty full > (well > > above the "cold" line and over the divider). > > At this point you should've bled it instead of topping it off but it > may have been too late and the system had boiled over. > > > Since then I've seen this spatter, apparently from the cap. > > Your system still has air in it in my opinion. You need to re-bleed > your coolant system. Yours may be like mine and very difficult to get > all the air out. Don't allow it to boil over you need to get a steady > flow of coolant out of the bleeder before it gets to the point where > all it does is steam out of there. That part at least on my car has > proven to be very tricky. > > Carlos > 98 M3 >
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#7. RE: Rotor deposits - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:31:46 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Rotor deposits I would recommend against applying any abrasive paper to your rotor as you will transfer small granules to the rotor from the abrasive paper. Did you change pads or run your street pads at the track and overheat them? I believe a few good hard stops on warm pads should clean this up and evenly transfer street pad material to the rotors. -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:19:34 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Rotor deposits After the 4/20 BMW school at Pacific Raceways, I had some serious shudder from the brakes after the drive home. I removed the rotors from all 4 corners, cleaned them with brake clean, and generally inspected the system, finding no other obvious problems. The inside of the FR rotor had deposits I could feel easily through my latex gloves. Considering my mechanical abilities, getting this done in just about 3.5 hours, I was most pleased. Driving the car after the job the brakes were hugely improved, but there was still a shudder that worsened over the course of running some errands. I intend to take the FR apart again tonight to more seriously attempt to remove the deposits. I understand that sandpaper is an acceptable means to do so. What grit should I be using for this job? I'm guessing something like 200+. Other thoughts on how to address this? I used most of a can of brake clean and some paper towels to get much of it off.
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#8. Re: Rotor deposits - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:37:38 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Rotor deposits Last night I tore off the FR and applied muscle, brake clean, and scotch-brite to the rotor. I was able to remove much of several large deposits and it felt smooth to my finger when I put it back on. The brakes still pulsed when I took a test drive last night and on my drive to work it got progressively much worse. I have to do a pick up and delivery to Olympia tonight but I should be able to find an empty road in my old stomping grounds to try out the recommended re-bedding procedure. In the interrim, I'm ordering new blanks today to have on hand assuming failure.
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Re: Rotor deposits - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:50:02 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Rotor deposits Since you had the rotor off, why not take it for a light resurface. $10.... -----Original Message----- From: Gus Iverson [mailto:gus.iverson@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:36 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: Rotor deposits Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:37:38 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Rotor deposits Last night I tore off the FR and applied muscle, brake clean, and scotch-brite to the rotor. I was able to remove much of several large deposits and it felt smooth to my finger when I put it back on. The brakes still pulsed when I took a test drive last night and on my drive to work it got progressively much worse. I have to do a pick up and delivery to Olympia tonight but I should be able to find an empty road in my old stomping grounds to try out the recommended re-bedding procedure. In the interrim, I'm ordering new blanks today to have on hand assuming failure.
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Rotor deposits - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:00:28 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Rotor deposits My understanding was that resurfacing the M3 rotors was verbotten. On 4/24/07, Dave DeBuhr <debuhr@comcast.net> wrote: > Since you had the rotor off, why not take it for a light resurface. > $10....
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#11. driving shoes - from tim ng
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:07:43 -0400 From: "tim ng" <s14realm3@hotmail.com> Subject: driving shoes get Pilotis they are GR888888888888888 Tim Ng BMWCCA # 36497 95 BUZZNM3 dakar yella 94 325i future track car 92 325ic M-Technic pkg 91 M3 garage queen 89 325ia commuter car 88 M3/2.5 DM race car ------------------ project 90 535ia ------------------ Pace shadow 26 ft enclosed trailer my web page: http://groups.msn.com/M3stuff/pictures