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#1. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw - from Matt Bader
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Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 08:13:28 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw Active Autowerke's TS is about $7900 for E46 and E36 I believe. I purchased their level 1 C-38 Rotrex kit for four grand, and now I am getting the level II upgrade for another $2600. For the money, I think that is a fair deal. Had I to do it over, I might have gone with a turbo, but the installation looks pretty complicated. The last turbo I drove was an early model Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX. Those were fun cars to modify. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 Delaware -----Original Message----- From: Marco [mailto:marco@corsa-na.com] Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 12:28 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 21:26:28 -0700 From: "Marco" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw Hmmm Exchange rate driven? $11,500 Canadian dollars? Delusions of Grandeur? What is that $4k more over the old price? Marco -----Original Message----- From: Dave DeBuhr [mailto:debuhr@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:18 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 21:17:11 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw I just went to the Eurosport site to look at the TS supercharger and noticed the price is at $11,500. Either I stepped into a worm hole and it is April 1st, or the crack pipe is in full effect. I could buy another E36M3 for that price... Dave ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.8/797 - Release Date: 5/10/2007 5:10 PM ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#2. Re: [e36m3] [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw - from jon@treehouseracing.com
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Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 08:52:26 -0500 From: <jon@treehouseracing.com> Subject: Re: [e36m3] [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw hmmm... Pretty sure the price was $8495 on the last kit I installed. Jon ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi - DM #053 TreehouseRacing.com M50conversion.com 615.333.9118 ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marco" <marco@corsa-na.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 11:28 PM Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 21:26:28 -0700 From: "Marco" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw Hmmm Exchange rate driven? $11,500 Canadian dollars? Delusions of Grandeur? What is that $4k more over the old price? Marco -----Original Message----- From: Dave DeBuhr [mailto:debuhr@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:18 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 21:17:11 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw I just went to the Eurosport site to look at the TS supercharger and noticed the price is at $11,500. Either I stepped into a worm hole and it is April 1st, or the crack pipe is in full effect. I could buy another E36M3 for that price... Dave ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.8/797 - Release Date: 5/10/2007 5:10 PM ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#3.1998 M3/4 - from Will Land
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Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 11:16:40 -0400 From: "Will Land" <wland68@comcast.net> Subject: <FS> 1998 M3/4 As the subject line states, specs below: 1998 BMW M3/4 (4 door sedan) 5 speed Artic Silver Black leather interior 94,100 miles More info including pictures can be found at the link below: HYPERLINK "http://home.comcast.net/~wland68/1998_BMW_M3.html"http://home.comcast.net/~ wland68/1998_BMW_M3.html Thanks! -Will No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/803 - Release Date: 5/13/2007 12:17 PM
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw - from Ben Liaw
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Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 21:36:12 -0400 From: Ben Liaw <ben@rogueengineering.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw <html> <P>The new price of $11,500 is correct.</P> <P>After the recent production run was sold (3rd batch of 25), Josh had advised us of the price increase. Then again, if you've ever seen the kit in person, you'd see why the $8500 price before was a steal.</P> <P>You could also just ask Josh directly as well.<BR> <BR> Regards, <BR> Ben Liaw <BR> Rogue Engineering <BR> 201.444.8150 • www.rebmw.com <BR> <BR> <B>On Fri May 11 23:18 , "Dave DeBuhr" <DEBUHR@COMCAST.NET>sent:<BR> <BR> </P></B> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #f5f5f5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 21:17:11 -0700<BR> From: "Dave DeBuhr" <<A href="javascript:top.opencompose('debuhr@comcast.net','','','')">debuhr@comcast.net</A>><BR> Subject: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw<BR> <BR> <BR> I just went to the Eurosport site to look at the TS supercharger<BR> and noticed the price is at $11,500. Either I stepped into a worm hole and<BR> it is April 1st, or the crack pipe is in full effect. I could buy another<BR> E36M3 for that price...<BR> <BR> Dave<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> *************************************************<BR> Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors:<BR> <BR> Bimmerworld <A href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bimmerworld.com" target=_blank><FONT color=red>http://www.bimmerworld.com</FONT></A><BR> Turner Motorsport <A href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turnermotorsport.com" target=_blank><FONT color=red>http://www.turnermotorsport.com</FONT></A><BR> Eurosport High Performance <A href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurosporthighperformance.com" target=_blank><FONT color=red>http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com</FONT></A><BR> Rogue Engineering <A href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rogueengineering.com" target=_blank><FONT color=red>http://www.rogueengineering.com</FONT></A><BR> Treehouse Racing <A href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.treehouseracing.com" target=_blank><FONT color=red>http://www.treehouseracing.com</FONT></A><BR> Elephant Motorsports Inc. <A href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.elephantmotorsports.com" target=_blank><FONT color=red>http://www.elephantmotorsports.com</FONT></A><BR> <BR> DIGEST INFORMATION:<BR> <A href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bmw-m.net%2Fresources%2Fdigest_info.htm" target=_blank><FONT color=red>http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm</FONT></A><BR> *************************************************<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE> </html><BR>.
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#5. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw - from Marco
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Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 12:25:09 -0700 From: "Marco" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw That's too bad. I had been considering it at the $8500 even though it was pricier than the competition. Now I probably won't and will go with some one else's kit. As someone mentioned for 11 large you can do lots of other cool things like drop in a E39 M5 engine or even an LS7 ;-) Marco -----Original Message----- From: Ben Liaw [mailto:ben@rogueengineering.com] Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:48 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 21:36:12 -0400 From: Ben Liaw Subject: Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw The new price of $11,500 is correct. After the recent production run was sold (3rd batch of 25), Josh had advised us of the price increase. Then again, if you've ever seen the kit in person, you'd see why the $8500 price before was a steal. You could also just ask Josh directly as well. Regards, Ben Liaw Rogue Engineering 201.444.8150 • www.rebmw.com On Fri May 11 23:18 , "Dave DeBuhr" sent: Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 21:17:11 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net <javascript:top.opencompose('debuhr@comcast.net','','','')> > Subject: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw I just went to the Eurosport site to look at the TS supercharger and noticed the price is at $11,500. Either I stepped into a worm hole and it is April 1st, or the crack pipe is in full effect. I could buy another E36M3 for that price... Dave ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* .. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/801 - Release Date: 5/12/2007 6:40 PM
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#6. Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw - from Richard Harden
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Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 16:56:35 -0400 From: "Richard Harden" <roguem3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw Id like to see an E39 M5 swap into an E36 done for anything close to $11k. The motor cost alone would eclipse the entire budget... FWIW, the ES TS kit provides a similar feel (though more wheel hp and tq) to an S62, though would save hundreds of headaches over dealing with the S62 swap. -Richard On 5/13/07, Marco <marco@corsa-na.com> wrote: > > Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 12:25:09 -0700 > From: "Marco" <marco@corsa-na.com> > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw > > That's too bad. I had been considering it at the $8500 even though it was > pricier than the competition. Now I probably won't and will go with some > one else's kit. As someone mentioned for 11 large you can do lots of > other > cool things like drop in a E39 M5 engine or even an LS7 ;-) > > Marco > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Liaw [mailto:ben@rogueengineering.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:48 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw > > > Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 21:36:12 -0400 From: Ben Liaw Subject: Re: [E36M3] > Eurosport Twin screw > > The new price of $11,500 is correct. > > After the recent production run was sold (3rd batch of 25), Josh had > advised > us of the price increase. Then again, if you've ever seen the kit in > person, you'd see why the $8500 price before was a steal. > > You could also just ask Josh directly as well. > > Regards, > Ben Liaw > Rogue Engineering > 201.444.8150 • www.rebmw.com > > On Fri May 11 23:18 , "Dave DeBuhr" sent: > > > > Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 21:17:11 -0700 > From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net > <javascript:top.opencompose('debuhr@comcast.net','','','')> > > Subject: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw > > > I just went to the Eurosport site to look at the TS supercharger > and noticed the price is at $11,500. Either I stepped into a worm hole and > it is April 1st, or the crack pipe is in full effect. I could buy another > E36M3 for that price... > > Dave > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > . ************************************************* Please help support > the > E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld > http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High > Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering > http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing > http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/801 - Release Date: 5/12/2007 > 6:40 PM > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#7. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw - from Marco
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Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 14:10:08 -0700 From: "Marco" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw ;-) there was a bit of sarcasm in my post. I did have a line on one a few years back for $6k out of a wrecked M5. But at the time $6k wasn't in the budget for anything. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Richard Harden [mailto:roguem3@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:57 PM To: Marco Cc: E36M3 Subject: Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw Id like to see an E39 M5 swap into an E36 done for anything close to $11k. The motor cost alone would eclipse the entire budget... FWIW, the ES TS kit provides a similar feel (though more wheel hp and tq) to an S62, though would save hundreds of headaches over dealing with the S62 swap. -Richard On 5/13/07, Marco <marco@corsa-na.com> wrote: Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 12:25:09 -0700 From: "Marco" <marco@corsa-na.com <mailto:marco@corsa-na.com> > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw That's too bad. I had been considering it at the $8500 even though it was pricier than the competition. Now I probably won't and will go with some one else's kit. As someone mentioned for 11 large you can do lots of other cool things like drop in a E39 M5 engine or even an LS7 ;-) Marco -----Original Message----- From: Ben Liaw [mailto: <mailto:ben@rogueengineering.com> ben@rogueengineering.com] Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:48 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 21:36:12 -0400 From: Ben Liaw Subject: Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw The new price of $11,500 is correct. After the recent production run was sold (3rd batch of 25), Josh had advised us of the price increase. Then again, if you've ever seen the kit in person, you'd see why the $8500 price before was a steal. You could also just ask Josh directly as well. Regards, Ben Liaw Rogue Engineering 201.444.8150 . www.rebmw.com <http://www.rebmw.com> On Fri May 11 23:18 , "Dave DeBuhr" sent: Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 21:17:11 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net <javascript: top.opencompose('debuhr@comcast.net','','','')> > Subject: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw I just went to the Eurosport site to look at the TS supercharger and noticed the price is at $11,500. Either I stepped into a worm hole and it is April 1st, or the crack pipe is in full effect. I could buy another E36M3 for that price... Dave ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com <http://www.turnermotorsport.com> Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com <http://www.rogueengineering.com> Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* .. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/801 - Release Date: 5/12/2007 6:40 PM ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com <http://www.bimmerworld.com> Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com <http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com> Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/801 - Release Date: 5/12/2007 6:40 PM
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw - from Rex Tener
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Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 14:46:09 -0700 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw At 09:48 AM 5/13/2007, Ben Liaw wrote: >Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 21:36:12 -0400 From: Ben Liaw Subject: Re: >[E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw >The new price of $11,500 is correct. Current owners have to be extremely happy. This just raised their car's value or the resale value of their kit by $2K to $3K. I wish I was a current owner of one. :-) Rex
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 22:07:17 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw I'm sure the kit is of very high quality, but I would think that economies of scale would prevail now that he is moving a decent amount of kits. I can't imagine the cost to put the kit together would change. Obviously his profitability is none of my business and I'm all for someone making a buck. But that price is so far out of the ballpark from every other type of FI set up, I was shocked. I think that he will be losing quite a few potential customers (like me) that will "settle" for a turbo, centrifugal SC or other vendor's twinscrew, which appears to make similar power and produce a similar hp/tq curve. I wish Eurosport luck and hope they didn't just kill the product with their ~50% price hike. I'm a bit dissapointed as I have just been priced out of the game. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Ben Liaw [mailto:ben@rogueengineering.com] Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 6:36 PM To: E36M3; 'Dave DeBuhr' Subject: Re: [E36M3] Eurosport Twin screw The new price of $11,500 is correct. After the recent production run was sold (3rd batch of 25), Josh had advised us of the price increase. Then again, if you've ever seen the kit in person, you'd see why the $8500 price before was a steal. You could also just ask Josh directly as well. Regards, Ben Liaw Rogue Engineering 201.444.8150 • www.rebmw.com
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#10. Attaching M-Technic spoiler lip - from Dahlka, Richard
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 11:13:27 -0400 From: "Dahlka, Richard" <rdahlka@kenttech.com> Subject: Attaching M-Technic spoiler lip Attaching this piece uses seven of what BMW calls plug-in nuts which are small plastic inserts into which fasten the attaching bolts. Does anyone know how to drill or somehow render the holes in the airdam to accommodate the very peculiar shape and design of these inserts, especially that tiny portion which protrudes to the outside of the airdam? -Rick