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#1. Re: [E36M3] Climate Control Capacitor - from Christopher Bauer
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 15:00:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Bauer <chrisbauer@vzavenue.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Climate Control Capacitor it was my experience recently that you'll have a hard time finding the tantalum capacitors. the only place around here was a specialty shop that was closed the day i wanted one. I went with a ceramic and my climate control works fine. Chris 97m3 newly fixed a/c >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 11:52:32 -0700 >From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> >Subject: Climate Control Capacitor > >The local Fry's supply of .47uF50V Tantalum capacitors is "out of >stock". >Ref >http://www.benhirsch.net/m3-maintenance/e36_climate_control.htm > >My online search of other local suppliers has failed me. >Anyone know of a good online supplier of small quantity items that is >also willing to sent said item for 'reasonable cost'? Fry's online wants >close to $5.00 to ship a 50-cent cap..
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Climate Control Capacitor - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 12:06:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Climate Control Capacitor On Tue, May 15, 2007 11:55 am, Burgess, Kim L said: > The local Fry's supply of .47uF50V Tantalum capacitors is "out of > stock". Got a Radio Shack near you? (Although, I think I had to go to Fry's to get mine....nevermind? :-)) > And a search of the digest revealed an interesting debate with regard to > which type of capacitor I should really use. I'll have to go back and look at my at-home email (or, you could probably look in the archives :-)) and see which value I used to repair mine (and Andrej's, I think). Heck, for a couple of bottles of home-brew, I'll run to my local Fry's, get one, and sent it to you. LOL! (OK, home-brew is optional, but greatly appreciated :-) Offer to send you one stands, however.) Jim Bassett
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Climate Control Capacitor - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 12:06:23 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Climate Control Capacitor Hi, I just did the fix. A 50V .47uF electrolytic cap will work fine. You will need to observe polarity here. A volt meter with a continuity function will be handy. Baring that when the board is on the bottom where you will do the soldering; the cap leg closest to the middle will be ground. Electrolytic caps go "POP" when in the circuit the wrong way. Kent Anyway, if you have questions you can email me. On May 15, 2007, at 11:55 AM, Burgess, Kim L wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 11:52:32 -0700 > From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> > Subject: Climate Control Capacitor > > The local Fry's supply of .47uF50V Tantalum capacitors is "out of > stock". > Ref > http://www.benhirsch.net/m3-maintenance/e36_climate_control.htm > > My online search of other local suppliers has failed me. > Anyone know of a good online supplier of small quantity items that is > also willing to sent said item for 'reasonable cost'? Fry's online > wants > close to $5.00 to ship a 50-cent cap.. > > And a search of the digest revealed an interesting debate with > regard to > which type of capacitor I should really use. > Andrew/John - Can you comment further? > Are "metalized polyester film" capacitors polarized? > > > Andrew Kalman wrote <digest #3930> > "Interesting -- our conservatively rated tantalum caps (50V, where the > maximum voltage was 15V on the board) would often blow up in a > pyrotechnic orgy and send their tops flying through the lab, > invariably > landing on someone's skin <snip> I've avoided tantalums wherever > possible ..." > > Response from John Firestone <digest #3931> > "If I remember correctly, they can also catastrophically short if > subject to high inrush currents as you might find in a power supply. > <snip> this particular part is used in a higher impedance (and hence > less stressful) watchdog timer circuit. I will probably use a > metalized > polyester film part <snip>" > > John - Are you still supplying you turn signal control modules? > > Kim L Burgess > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Climate Control Fix - from Mark Duckworth
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 15:37:53 -0400 From: Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Climate Control Fix On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 13:45 -0500, Burgess, Kim L wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 11:44:20 -0700 > From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> > Subject: Climate Control Fix > > John - What are you recommending in capacitor size for repairing the > digital climate control module? > I have seen reference to .47uF50V Tantalum capacitors. > > TIA > KLB Kim, It may be worth mentioning that while mine needed fixed 3 times, it's now fixed fixed without replacing anything, just heating up the joints nice and hot where the cap mounts as well as the main connector. The $ savings was enough to pay for my production quality temp controlled ESD protected soldering iron with SMT tips :) Thanks, Mark
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#5. Sport button rant (was S54 into E36) - from Kirk Lachman
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:13:16 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Kirk Lachman <admranger@earthlink.net> Subject: Sport button rant (was S54 into E36) Rob wrote: >Definitely get the Conforti software, I think you will like the change. This is tantamount to stating: breathe every once in a while, you'll like the results. Has anyone *not* liked Jim's work?! :-) Yes, I have Conforti's work in my race car ecu... >Along the same lines, it's also possible for you to retrofit the Sport >Throttle feature - it's little more than plugging in the button. Ok, not to quibble, but while it is "possible", why would anyone want to put that pitiful 'for marketing purposes only' button (from an E46 M3 perspective anyway) in the car? It is a colossal waste of matter. It changes the throttle by wire profile to give you more abrupt throttle inputs, just what the average e36m3 list driver needs (and by average, I mean anyone without a full time paid race gig). If you can not tell yet (I've been kinda subtle), I like this *feature* about as much as a flat tire on the trailer. At night. On the driver's side. In the rain (or sleet). On a road with a very narrow shoulder and a steep drop off. Now, if the sport button actually did something to change the accelerator pedal mapping, like maybe adjust the dampers (Cayman anyone?), then it may have a useful purpose. It appears that the only useful purpose it serves now is to enrich my massage therapist after instructing the 'ham-footed' E46M3 drivers at a driving school. My neck will never forgive BMW for this one. Next school I'm breaking the finger of the student who insists on using it b/c it helps them heel and toe (puh-leeeze). FWIW, I drive an e46m3 at driving schools that is stock (on street tires too) and have no issues with heel and toe or other need for the 'sport' button. I have tried the sport button at the Salzburgring and quickly determined that it was worthless if you wanted to smoothly drive the car. As many pacific region members of this list know, my driving ain't all that, so if I can do it...hmmmm. Rantingly yours, Kirk Lachman Sin City Chapter
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Climate Control Capacitor - from Peter Loron
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:16:08 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Climate Control Capacitor I've been happy with Mouser before, but they'll probably ding you as much for shipping as Frys... http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?handler=home -Pete On 5/15/07, Burgess, Kim L <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> wrote: > > Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 11:52:32 -0700 > From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> > Subject: Climate Control Capacitor > > The local Fry's supply of .47uF50V Tantalum capacitors is "out of > stock". > Ref > http://www.benhirsch.net/m3-maintenance/e36_climate_control.htm > > My online search of other local suppliers has failed me. > Anyone know of a good online supplier of small quantity items that is > also willing to sent said item for 'reasonable cost'? Fry's online wants > close to $5.00 to ship a 50-cent cap.. > > And a search of the digest revealed an interesting debate with regard to > which type of capacitor I should really use. > Andrew/John - Can you comment further? > Are "metalized polyester film" capacitors polarized? > > > Andrew Kalman wrote <digest #3930> > "Interesting -- our conservatively rated tantalum caps (50V, where the > maximum voltage was 15V on the board) would often blow up in a > pyrotechnic orgy and send their tops flying through the lab, invariably > landing on someone's skin <snip> I've avoided tantalums wherever > possible ..." > > Response from John Firestone <digest #3931> > "If I remember correctly, they can also catastrophically short if > subject to high inrush currents as you might find in a power supply. > <snip> this particular part is used in a higher impedance (and hence > less stressful) watchdog timer circuit. I will probably use a metalized > polyester film part <snip>" > > John - Are you still supplying you turn signal control modules? > > Kim L Burgess > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#7. Re: Sport button rant (was S54 into E36) - from Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 16:48:38 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <rob@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: Sport button rant (was S54 into E36) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Lachman" <admranger@earthlink.net> Subject: Sport button rant (was S54 into E36) > Rob wrote: > >Along the same lines, it's also possible for you to retrofit the Sport > >Throttle feature - it's little more than plugging in the button. > > Ok, not to quibble, but while it is "possible", > why would anyone want to put that pitiful 'for > marketing purposes only' button (from an E46 > M3 perspective anyway) in the car? It is a colossal > waste of matter. It changes the throttle by wire profile > to give you more abrupt throttle inputs, just what > the average e36m3 list driver needs (and by average, > I mean anyone without a full time paid race gig). > If you can not tell yet (I've been kinda subtle), I > like this *feature* about as much as a flat tire on > the trailer. At night. On the driver's side. In the rain > (or sleet). On a road with a very narrow shoulder > and a steep drop off. Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play? ;-) Kirk, stifling your true feelings will just lead to stress, tell us how you really feel! BTDT with the flat tire trailer in the middle of the night. Try it after realizing your hydraulic jack was stowed on it's side and has dribbled out all of it's oil, and that someone borrowed the tire iron, and that you don't have the lock for the spare tire. FUN! I guess Sport Throttle is one of those things that works differently for different people. Full throttle is still full throttle, so if your student is mashing the pedal, the results should not be much different. Nevertheless, I think we'd be in agreement that it would be nice if that button was a dial instead. - Rob Levinson
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Subject: Seat Repair - from Mark Duckworth
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 17:01:00 -0400 From: Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Subject: Seat Repair On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 22:05 -0500, Rich Dorffer wrote: > These guys carry all the products you need for a very professional result: > > www.leatherique.com > > I have restored a number of seats, steering wheels, etc. with their > products. Crack filler, dye and their leather care products are the best. > > Regards, > > Rich Rich, Thanks for the advice but my seats are a rather odd situation. The previous owner didn't maintain them and once I got the car I did. Everything got rescued and is very nice now with OTC products (and now Zymol Treat) but the driver side bolster is just a lost cause. It tore a little bit and kept tearing. The rest of the driver seat and passenger seat has visible cracks but now that it's well hydrated and cleaned, it doesn't appear to be weakening at all. The leather isn't like the leather in my beater 3000GT which is very hard like cardboard. It's quite soft again - just torn and cracked up. The rear seats of course are magnificent. I wish I knew if leatherique's crack filler would bond well to the seat foam and actually look good on a large hole (dime sized) as well as long cracks. I might try it since it's certainly cheaper than other options, but I'd *love* to waste my money on all new leather for the fronts. I need floormats too but at $200 that's another pricey venture I won't see any return on (after the head gasket and head reconditioning I am being overruled by the fiance on cosmetic improvements that won't carry through to resale). Thanks, Mark
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#9. RE: Climate Control Capacitor - from Steve Burke
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 17:27:11 -0400 From: "Steve Burke" <s_burke@cox.net> Subject: RE: Climate Control Capacitor Kim, see below. >-------------------- 10 -------------------- >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 11:52:32 -0700 >From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> >Subject: Climate Control Capacitor> > >The local Fry's supply of .47uF50V Tantalum capacitors is "out of >stock". >Ref >http://www.benhirsch.net/m3-maintenance/e36_climate_control.htm > >My online search of other local suppliers has failed me. >Anyone know of a good online supplier of small quantity items that is >also willing to sent said item for 'reasonable cost'? Fry's online wants >close to $5.00 to ship a 50-cent cap.. If the original value is .47uf then a .47uf of any type of capacitor whether tantalum, electrolytic, or film should work just fine. If you can't find 50vdc, a 63vdc or 100vdc will do just as well. It's ok to go up in voltage (provided you have the space for the increased size of the cap) but don't go down. You might check back at Fry's. If your local Rat Shack hasn't yet removed its capacitor drawer from the store, you can probably find one there as well. > >And a search of the digest revealed an interesting debate with regard to >which type of capacitor I should really use. See above. It should make no difference as long as it fits. >Andrew/John - Can you comment further? >Are "metalized polyester film" capacitors polarized? Kinda but not really, especially for this application. Metalized film caps do have inner and outer foil ends. Some of us diy audio vacuum tube people will orient one particular side to the negative or positive rail depending on the circuit but for all intents and purposes, and in this application, it doesn't matter which end goes where. Specific negative/positive sides apply to tants and lytics. Hope this helps, Steve '98 M3/4
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#10. Re: [E36M3] S54s - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 17:51:35 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] S54s In a message dated 5/15/2007 2:15:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, stiles_s@hotmail.com writes: Welcome to "force feedback" and pseudo-steering-feel a'la video games. I think this will be mainstream in the next 10yrs, which really freaks me out. Steering feel is *much* more important to me than throttle feel; though both are important. Oh-my-God...just one more reason to never, ever, sell my e36M3. As the car industry just keeps stuffing electronic gismos into their new machines -- mine just keeps looking better. ;-)) Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005 / 2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & Rogue Engineering ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.