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#1. RE: Looking for Cats for a 98 M3 - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:58:20 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Looking for Cats for a 98 M3 BimmerWorld has replacement cats at reasonable cost. -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 12:32:49 EDT From: Kallay@aol.com Subject: Re: Looking for Cats for a 98 M3 I am looking for a set of used cats as mine are falling apart inside. If anyone has one they would like to sell please contact me. Tom Kallay _Kallay@aol.com_ (mailto:Kallay@aol.com) 412 826 3737
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#2. OT: STi - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 15:52:42 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: OT: STi Folks, Being an E36 owner for the past eight years and having five different M3s (okay I only totaled one of them) I sold my last Estoril E36 I Stock race car to Bob Smith (who is now on the list, welcome Bob). I loved the cars and enjoyed every bit of it and it was time for something different. I really did not enjoy my E46 328i Auto :( and after test driving a few cars (needed a four seater, trunk) I ended up getting a WRX STi. Comparison to E36, the fit finish is not there. Okay, the styling is not up to it either and yes it does rattle a bit even with 8K miles on the do. The plus: With an exhaust and computer flash (I still have the cats in place) the car put down 314 AWHP with a conservative tune and 308lt lbs torque which comes in at peak 4K rpms 80% of which is available at 3K rpms. According to Vishnu, the car is said to run low/mid 12s 1/4 and 0-60 in 4 seconds. Love the turbo boost. Its very quick, the brakes are strong with almost no mushy feel. Handling, I have the JIC coilovers in there and its interesting to drive. Coming out of corners you just stomp the throttle and let the center diff take care of it. You almost have the trail brake hard into the corner and gun the throttle at the apex to drive it fast. Completely different from the E36 which required precise inputs. Different beast all together. With the seat back all the way (I am only 6'4") there is plenty of rear room to fit another 6'2 incher at the back. Its not a direct E36 replacement but it has the same practicality as the E36 and is fast as hell. Coming from an FD (RX7 TT) I must say I missed the boost. Another good friend of mine, Bernardo Payet also got a Lancer Evo IX after he sold his CM race car (along with the truck, trailer etc.) I will be on this list since I have made a lot of friends, will be co driving in a few races in IS with Lynn Cochran. If you want a daily driver which you can open track and really kick butt, I recommend you test drive one of these. Anybody else on this list went the STi/Evo route? Feedback? Ahmad
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#3. Re: [E36M3] OT: STi - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 16:00:55 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: STi On 6/1/07, Ahmad Lutfeali <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> wrote: > Anybody else on this list went the STi/Evo route? Feedback? Neil Maller said it best about those cars. ;-) No I'm not repeating it. :-P Don't let them catch you competing with those cars or it is adios warranty. Carlos 98 M3
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#4. OT:STI - from kwill69058@comcast.net
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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:33:39 +0000 From: kwill69058@comcast.net Subject: OT:STI Hi, Start saving some big money because the tranny will go way before you think it should. The other problem is that MOST STI's are being harrassed in my area of Maryland even with older (over 30) crowd driving them. It seems that the ricers and "kids" in the area are street racing so much that the Law is doing everything they can to cut into that. I wish they would curb the nut jobz on the crotch rockets that split lanes at over 100 mph and guys that do stoppies behind my car while I am stopped at the red light while my daughter sits in my back seat. Sorry.......enough about that. Anyway, Good luck with your purchase and its good that you are still here. I think if you turbo a 330 xi you will be content? -Keith.
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#5. Re: [E36M3] OT:STI - from Mark D
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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 19:04:08 -0400 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT:STI kwill69058@comcast.net wrote: > Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:33:39 +0000 > From: kwill69058@comcast.net > Subject: OT:STI > > Hi, > > Start saving some big money because the tranny will go way before you think it should. > > The other problem is that MOST STI's are being harrassed in my area of Maryland even with older (over 30) crowd driving them. It seems that the ricers and "kids" in the area are street racing so much that the Law is doing everything they can to cut into that. > > I wish they would curb the nut jobz on the crotch rockets that split lanes at over 100 mph and guys that do stoppies behind my car while I am stopped at the red light while my daughter sits in my back seat. > > Sorry.......enough about that. > > Anyway, > > Good luck with your purchase and its good that you are still here. I think if you turbo a 330 xi you will be content? > > -Keith. > Additionally, I don't know if they changed the internals on the most recent version but on my buddy's 04 with 150,000 miles he just got screwed pretty good. He had a minor coolant loss and the car got warmer than normal (not overheated on the gage). Apparently they don't have forged pistons and the car started dumping oil into the cylinder. Additionally his valves were bent and needed all new valves. The job which they told him was $2400 quickly worked up to $4500. So he had to spend more money to get his car moving then I did with my 180,000 mile head gasket job. Of course he's paying for labor though too. The paint isn't that great on those cars, keep it waxed well. The BBS wheels are awesome and take a beating no problem. The rear bushings go and the transmission has been shot on his car for a long time. 5th gear is gone and he doesn't use it. He paid something like $3000 for one of his maintenance sessions (needed brakes). Mostly highway miles obviously and his clutch is gone as well. Also the car is absurdly rusty. The exhaust mountings needed to be drilled off as well as several other points because it was just too rusted on. His turbo also has a hairline crack in the housing. The air conditioning is shot. On the plus side, the last time I rode in it before it overheated it still pulled like nothing I've ever felt. Thanks, Mark
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#6. Re: [E36M3] OT:STI - from Rex Tener
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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:51:22 -0700 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT:STI At 03:35 PM 6/1/2007, kwill69058@comcast.net wrote: >Start saving some big money because the tranny will go way before >you think it should. And on Evo's front transfer cases. A really good friend has his go at 50K miles ... Rex
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#7. Re: [E36M3] OT:STI - from DocWyte
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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:34:37 -0700 From: DocWyte <docwyte@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT:STI I had an '06 STI for a little while. Great track car, but that's about it. Unless you have some kinda aberation, I can't believe you can fit a 6'2" person behind you, as I'm 6' and I couldn't fit behind the drivers seat without having my knees on either side of the front seat. Brake parts are absurdly expensive, price out the front rotors for a laugh. Many rattles after 5k miles, wear spots in the carpet, incredibly thin paint, stupidly cheap interior, etc. Thing goes like stink tho, awesome brakes and with some minor suspension tweaks, handles damn well. Mark D wrote: > Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 19:04:08 -0400 > From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT:STI > > kwill69058@comcast.net wrote: >> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:33:39 +0000 >> From: kwill69058@comcast.net >> Subject: OT:STI >> >> Hi, >> >> Start saving some big money because the tranny will go way before you >> think it should. >> >> The other problem is that MOST STI's are being harrassed in my area >> of Maryland even with older (over 30) crowd driving them. It seems >> that the ricers and "kids" in the area are street racing so much that >> the Law is doing everything they can to cut into that. >> I wish they would curb the nut jobz on the crotch rockets that split >> lanes at over 100 mph and guys that do stoppies behind my car while I >> am stopped at the red light while my daughter sits in my back seat. >> >> Sorry.......enough about that. >> >> Anyway, >> >> Good luck with your purchase and its good that you are still here. I >> think if you turbo a 330 xi you will be content? >> >> -Keith.
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#8. Re: [E36M3] OT: STi - from Gary
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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 19:59:38 -0500 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: STi I know on the standard WRX the tranny goes around 350hp...other than that my buddies WRX has been bullet proof....And its pretty fast.. EVO...well lets just say you don't see many 10+year old Mitsubishi products...you can figure the rest out ;o) pphhhhh My turbo M3 will run mid 12's once I crunk up the boost on the new motor... I think we will need some direct comparison highway pulls Ahmad ;o) I would rank the STi high on my list of cars to own after a ride in a bone stock one...They are pretty cool little cars!!! I think how long they last and how reliable they are is like an E36M3 it depends on how well they are maintained and how hard they are driven...Drag racing clutch dropps are not friendly on any car! Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: [E36M3] OT: STi > Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 15:52:42 -0400 > From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> > Subject: OT: STi > > Folks, > > Being an E36 owner for the past eight years and having five different M3s > (okay I only totaled one of them) I sold my last Estoril E36 I Stock race > car to Bob Smith (who is now on the list, welcome Bob). > > I loved the cars and enjoyed every bit of it and it was time for something > different. I really did not enjoy my E46 328i Auto :( and after test > driving > a few cars (needed a four seater, trunk) I ended up getting a WRX STi. > > Comparison to E36, the fit finish is not there. Okay, the styling is not > up > to it either and yes it does rattle a bit even with 8K miles on the do. > The > plus: > > With an exhaust and computer flash (I still have the cats in place) the > car > put down 314 AWHP with a conservative tune and 308lt lbs torque which > comes > in at peak 4K rpms 80% of which is available at 3K rpms. According to > Vishnu, the car is said to run low/mid 12s 1/4 and 0-60 in 4 seconds. > Love > the turbo boost. Its very quick, the brakes are strong with almost no > mushy > feel. Handling, I have the JIC coilovers in there and its interesting to > drive. Coming out of corners you just stomp the throttle and let the > center > diff take care of it. You almost have the trail brake hard into the corner > and gun the throttle at the apex to drive it fast. Completely different > from > the E36 which required precise inputs. Different beast all together. > > With the seat back all the way (I am only 6'4") there is plenty of rear > room > to fit another 6'2 incher at the back. Its not a direct E36 replacement > but > it has the same practicality as the E36 and is fast as hell. Coming from > an > FD (RX7 TT) I must say I missed the boost. > > Another good friend of mine, Bernardo Payet also got a Lancer Evo IX after > he sold his CM race car (along with the truck, trailer etc.) > > I will be on this list since I have made a lot of friends, will be co > driving in a few races in IS with Lynn Cochran. > > If you want a daily driver which you can open track and really kick butt, > I > recommend you test drive one of these. > > Anybody else on this list went the STi/Evo route? Feedback? > > Ahmad > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#9. Re: [E36M3] OT: STi - from Mike VanAmburgh
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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 20:09:52 -0500 From: "Mike VanAmburgh" <mvanamburgh@charter.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: STi The STI has something in common with the Exige. http://www.automobilemag.com/features/lists/best_road_trip_cars/0705_2007_lotus_exige_2007_subaru_wrx_sti/ Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: STi > Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 19:59:38 -0500 > From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: STi > > I know on the standard WRX the tranny goes around 350hp...other than that > my buddies WRX has been bullet proof....And its pretty fast.. > > EVO...well lets just say you don't see many 10+year old Mitsubishi > products...you can figure the rest out ;o) > > pphhhhh My turbo M3 will run mid 12's once I crunk up the boost on the new > motor... > > I think we will need some direct comparison highway pulls Ahmad ;o) > > I would rank the STi high on my list of cars to own after a ride in a bone > stock one...They are pretty cool little cars!!! > > I think how long they last and how reliable they are is like an E36M3 it > depends on how well they are maintained and how hard they are > driven...Drag racing clutch dropps are not friendly on any car! > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 2:55 PM > Subject: [E36M3] OT: STi > > >> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 15:52:42 -0400 >> From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> >> Subject: OT: STi >> >> Folks, >> >> Being an E36 owner for the past eight years and having five different M3s >> (okay I only totaled one of them) I sold my last Estoril E36 I Stock race >> car to Bob Smith (who is now on the list, welcome Bob). >> >> I loved the cars and enjoyed every bit of it and it was time for >> something >> different. I really did not enjoy my E46 328i Auto :( and after test >> driving >> a few cars (needed a four seater, trunk) I ended up getting a WRX STi. >> >> Comparison to E36, the fit finish is not there. Okay, the styling is not >> up >> to it either and yes it does rattle a bit even with 8K miles on the do. >> The >> plus: >> >> With an exhaust and computer flash (I still have the cats in place) the >> car >> put down 314 AWHP with a conservative tune and 308lt lbs torque which >> comes >> in at peak 4K rpms 80% of which is available at 3K rpms. According to >> Vishnu, the car is said to run low/mid 12s 1/4 and 0-60 in 4 seconds. >> Love >> the turbo boost. Its very quick, the brakes are strong with almost no >> mushy >> feel. Handling, I have the JIC coilovers in there and its interesting to >> drive. Coming out of corners you just stomp the throttle and let the >> center >> diff take care of it. You almost have the trail brake hard into the >> corner >> and gun the throttle at the apex to drive it fast. Completely different >> from >> the E36 which required precise inputs. Different beast all together. >> >> With the seat back all the way (I am only 6'4") there is plenty of rear >> room >> to fit another 6'2 incher at the back. Its not a direct E36 replacement >> but >> it has the same practicality as the E36 and is fast as hell. Coming from >> an >> FD (RX7 TT) I must say I missed the boost. >> >> Another good friend of mine, Bernardo Payet also got a Lancer Evo IX >> after >> he sold his CM race car (along with the truck, trailer etc.) >> >> I will be on this list since I have made a lot of friends, will be co >> driving in a few races in IS with Lynn Cochran. >> >> If you want a daily driver which you can open track and really kick butt, >> I >> recommend you test drive one of these. >> >> Anybody else on this list went the STi/Evo route? Feedback? >> >> Ahmad >> >> >> >> ************************************************* >> Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >> >> Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >> Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >> Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >> Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >> Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >> Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com >> >> DIGEST INFORMATION: >> http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >> ************************************************* >> >> > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#10. Re: [E36M3] OT: STi - from Mark D
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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:38 -0400 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: STi Gary wrote: > Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 19:59:38 -0500 > From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: STi > > I know on the standard WRX the tranny goes around 350hp...other than > that my buddies WRX has been bullet proof....And its pretty fast.. > > EVO...well lets just say you don't see many 10+year old Mitsubishi > products...you can figure the rest out ;o) > I have a 1995 3000GT with 150,000 miles on it. Since the motor is designed to be turbocharged and I have an NA version it's actually a rather strong motor, but susceptible to massive carbon buildup. You have to be very good about keeping the intake clean from throttle on and you cannot miss an oil change on this car. If you keep up with that the mitsu 3.0 will get you a solid 200,000 (or so) miles. Mine doesn't burn an ounce of oil between changes yet but the previous owner was a friend whom I've seen drive like a granny so it made me more comfortable. He also told me he used Mobil 1 in it for the longest time. Fit and finish though, the car is falling apart, but all the major systems are working well and it passes emissions. This is my salt car (the m3 sits in the garage) > pphhhhh My turbo M3 will run mid 12's once I crunk up the boost on the > new motor... > But at near $20K for an E36 in solid turbo-worthy condition + $10K or so for the turbo kit, the STi might be a smarter choice. > I think we will need some direct comparison highway pulls Ahmad ;o) > > I would rank the STi high on my list of cars to own after a ride in a > bone stock one...They are pretty cool little cars!!! > It is. I've logged several hundred miles behind the wheel of my buddy's 04 and it's one heck of a car. But it really seems designed for the track (i.e. run hard but not for long) and not for a long term beating like the M3 is. > I think how long they last and how reliable they are is like an E36M3 > it depends on how well they are maintained and how hard they are > driven...Drag racing clutch dropps are not friendly on any car! > > Gary I could never bring myself to do that to my car :-P Not even once, never burned out. The STi was subjected to things like that from time to time though :-P So it could go some way into explaining the reliability issues. Thanks, Mark