E36M3 #5277

Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:15:48

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#1. Coilover help - from Mdriver13@aol.com
#2. FW: [E36M3] Coilover help - from Dave DeBuhr
#3. Re: [E36M3] Coilover help - from Carlos Lopez
#4. RE: [E36M3] Bridgestone RE-01R's - from Sinha, Vikas
#5. NT-01's? - from Mo Karamat
#6. RE: [E36M3] NT-01's? - from Jonathan L.
#7. ASC and ABS Lights - Intermittent - from Kent L. Shephard
#8. Re: [E36M3] Coilover help - from Jim Bassett
#9. Re: [E36M3] ASC and ABS Lights - Intermittent - from Jim Bassett
#10. Re: [E36M3] ASC and ABS Lights - Intermittent - from Benjamin Hirsch

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#1. Coilover help - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 23:30:29 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Coilover help Hi Group, I was thinking about replacing my front Koni SA's and Eibach Pro-Kit springs with coilovers, but after talking to a few people, it sounds like I would probably need to use spacers, which I do not want to do for my own reasons. My wheel / tire config is 18x8.5 et 38 wheel with Hoosier 245/35/18. They are a perfect fit, being ever so close to the strut without rubbing. Would most people agree that CO's will cause rubbing with my wheel / tire set-up? Just looking for some additional feedback. TIA, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005 / 2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & Rogue Engineering ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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#2. FW: [E36M3] Coilover help - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 20:52:21 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: FW: [E36M3] Coilover help I have GC COs with that exact wheel spec (BBS RGR 18x8.5" ET38 / 245-35-18). I don't need a spacer. They built them with "extra kick" (whatever that means) to accommodate wider wheels/tires. -----Original Message----- From: Mdriver13@aol.com [mailto:Mdriver13@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:35 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Coilover help Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 23:30:29 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Coilover help Hi Group, I was thinking about replacing my front Koni SA's and Eibach Pro-Kit springs with coilovers, but after talking to a few people, it sounds like I would probably need to use spacers, which I do not want to do for my own reasons. My wheel / tire config is 18x8.5 et 38 wheel with Hoosier 245/35/18. They are a perfect fit, being ever so close to the strut without rubbing. Would most people agree that CO's will cause rubbing with my wheel / tire set-up? Bob Gill

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Coilover help - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 08:19:44 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coilover help On 6/5/07, Mdriver13@aol.com <Mdriver13@aol.com> wrote: > I was thinking about replacing my front Koni SA's and Eibach Pro-Kit springs > with coilovers, but after talking to a few people, it sounds like I would > probably need to use spacers, which I do not want to do for my own reasons. Why do I always hear this? Not picking on you Bob but the personal reasons against spacers? One broke your heart dumped you in high school and has left long emotional scars on you? What is so personal about a wheel spacer? Porsche had them on 911s from the factory IIRC. I run a huge ole spacer on my car to run stock wheels and StopTechs. I also run studs, I'm guessing people have personal issues against converting to studs also. Guess how many problems that spacer has caused in years and years of that car using that spacer. Zero that's how many. /end rant Carlos :-) 98 M3 PS Cheap studs on the other hand can cause problems with galling, crossthreading, etc.

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Bridgestone RE-01R's - from Sinha, Vikas
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 10:43:42 -0400 From: "Sinha, Vikas" <Vikas.Sinha@aam.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Bridgestone RE-01R's Yes, it's high, but the car just feels so athletic and light on its feet, I can't bear to drop the pressures. It can be a little bone-jarring, but the kids won't complain, and the wife will but hasn't yet, so I still have carte blanche. Vik 97 M3/4 > From: "Alex Demsky" <hyper_m3@hotmail.com> > > Wow, 39 for the street? Isnt that high? When I was running it at > 38lbs(testing) I thought the ride was bone jarring. > > >> From: "Sinha, Vikas" <Vikas.Sinha@aam.com> >> >> I run mine at 39 psi on the street, will probably start with Kirk's >> recommendation for the track.

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#5. NT-01's? - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:41:06 -0500 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: NT-01's? "Actually, this brings me to a good point. Toyo very much saw a need to update the RA1 and has introduced the Nitto NT-01 which is supposed a better, modernized RA1. I'm not sure about pricing or sizing, but I think it would be a good alternative. All the reviews I've heard have been very positive about the new tires. No need for shaving and none of the vices of an RA1. I'm very much considering a set once I cord my V710s." Dear Group, Has anyone used the NT-01's yet? I have heard several folks talk about them recently, but have not heard any real feedback about them.. thoughts? Regards Mo

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#6. RE: [E36M3] NT-01's? - from Jonathan L.
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 08:59:00 -0700 From: "Jonathan L." <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] NT-01's? I actually just responded to someone offline about these. First off, though, I think the statement below about Toyo introducing the NT01 is a bit off. While they may or may not have the same parent company, the NT01 is a competitor to the Toyo products... their new tire being the R888 (I think that's the designation, anyway). I've not tried the new Toyos, but I'm a HUGE fan of the Nitto NT01s. They're fast right out of the box (once you get rid of the mold release, of course), so they don't require shaving, the seem to have the same longevity of the RA1s, but also have what seem to be stiffer sidewalls (I run mine a few pounds less than I was running RA1s) and also are much more confidence inspiring and seem to have more lateral grip. My car on the NT01s can do things through T8 and T9 at Willow Springs that really shocked me... In a good way! As a "for instance," Ralph Warren out here on the left coast has been running very close to the front of the pack in an HP E46 Heavyweight M3 on these and has been setting class track records at almost every weekenend race. Running ahead of a few Mod-class cars and actually running in first for a few laps until the other mod cars' slicks get up to temp. They're my new tire of choice, and I'll probably have some 255/40-17 RA1 scrubs available soon if anyone's interested. ;) Jonathan L. >From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> >Reply-To: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> >To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >Subject: [E36M3] NT-01's? >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 10:45:04 -0500 > >Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:41:06 -0500 >From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> >Subject: NT-01's? > >"Actually, this brings me to a good point. Toyo very much saw a need to >update the RA1 and has introduced the Nitto NT-01 which is supposed a >better, modernized RA1. I'm not sure about pricing or sizing, but I think >it would be a good alternative. All the reviews I've heard have been very >positive about the new tires. No need for shaving and none of the vices of >an RA1. I'm very much considering a set once I cord my V710s." > >Dear Group, > > Has anyone used the NT-01's yet? I have heard several folks talk about >them recently, but have not heard any real feedback about them.. > > >thoughts? >Regards >Mo > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazine’s 2007 editors’ choice for best Web mail—award-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507

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#7. ASC and ABS Lights - Intermittent - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 10:00:18 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: ASC and ABS Lights - Intermittent Hi, Over the last week I occasionally will have bit the ASC and ABS lights come on at the same time and stay on. I can turn the engine off and restart and the lights go out and may not come on for a day or two. When they do it's the same symptom. Any clues???? Kent

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Coilover help - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 10:07:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coilover help On Wed, June 6, 2007 5:25 am, Carlos Lopez wrote: > Why do I always hear this? Not picking on you Bob but the personal > reasons against spacers? But, on the other hand, if they're not needed, why use them? Wider front track would be one reason, but other than that? To the original question, from what I've seen CO struts tend to be smaller in diameter than the stock strut tube, so *in general* going to COs could eliminate the need for spacers. (I run 10mm spacers for the transit wheels on the race car, which are 10-spoke M3 wheels, in order to provide some clearance over the brake calipers. The race wheels, Koseis, do not require a spacer, mainly due to the difference in "flaring" of the spokes. The M3 wheel's spokes curve inward, toward the caliper, whereas the Koseis curve outward, creating more clearance. So wheel type can also play a part, if the clearance issue concerns brake calipers. FWIW.) Jim Bassett

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#9. Re: [E36M3] ASC and ABS Lights - Intermittent - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 10:10:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] ASC and ABS Lights - Intermittent On Wed, June 6, 2007 10:05 am, Kent L. Shephard wrote: > Over the last week I occasionally will have bit the ASC and ABS > lights come on at the same time and stay on. > I can turn the engine off and restart and the lights go out and may > not come on for a day or two. When they do it's the > same symptom. > > Any clues???? Most likely brake pedal travel sensor - at least that's what fixed my similar situation. Search the List archives for my post around Dec 31, 2003, for detailed description of the repair. Parts are ~$100, IIRC. Shouldn't take more than 1 beer to complete :-) Jim Bassett

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#10. Re: [E36M3] ASC and ABS Lights - Intermittent - from Benjamin Hirsch
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 10:14:13 -0700 From: "Benjamin Hirsch" <benjamin.hirsch@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] ASC and ABS Lights - Intermittent Guess: Dirty Wheel Speed Sensor? or Wheel Speed Sensor gone bad? On 6/6/07, Kent L. Shephard <e36m3@kshephard.com> wrote: > > Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 10:00:18 -0700 > From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> > Subject: ASC and ABS Lights - Intermittent > > Hi, > > Over the last week I occasionally will have bit the ASC and ABS > lights come on at the same time and stay on. > I can turn the engine off and restart and the lights go out and may > not come on for a day or two. When they do it's the > same symptom. > > Any clues???? > > Kent > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > -- Thanks, Ben

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