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#1. Re: Born on the Nurburgring - from jbjerke@charter.net
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 7:01:07 -0700 From: <jbjerke@charter.net> Subject: Re: Born on the Nurburgring I was watching a show on SPEED Saturday morning called Car Crazy and they were interviewing Tommy Smothers of the Smothers Brothers. He was a big car guy in the 60's and 70's and competed in several professional races. He began telling the story of how he had moved on and had lost the "car bug" until he drove a 1998 BMW M3 that sent him head first back into cars, racing etc. Claimed it is the best street car he has ever owned. Jeff Bjerke 1998 Red/Blk Coupe ----------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:16:13 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: [E36M3] Born on the Nurburgring I saw an interesting show on SPEED this weekend called "Born on the Nurburgring." It was oriented toward the track and development of BMW cars in general. But there was a lot of talk about M cars and some nice, but brief clips of E36/46 M3s going around. Anyway, it was interesting, so I thought I'd pass it on. I'm not sure if SPEED will replay, but they tend to repeat stuff quite a bit... Dave "friggin' cat heat shield is rattling AGAIN!" DeBuhr 98 M3/4
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#2. RE: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:36:17 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? Thanks all for your replies. That was one of the easiest jobs I've done on the M, thanks to the urethane bushings and the puller tool from BimmerWorld. That tool saved me many hours of sweating and cursing, I'm sure. Well worth the price. I'm near Philly, in Lansdale, if anyone wants to borrow it. Bimmerworld tells me it works on the rear subframe bushings as well. Paul Andrews 98 M3/4 # 42 STU -----Original Message----- From: Paul Andrews [mailto:emosound@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:35 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:32:28 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? Hmm, hadn't thought of that. I wonder how much of difference it makes. Guess I'll find out soon. Thanks! -Paul -----Original Message----- From: Burgess, Kim L [mailto:kim.l.burgess@boeing.com] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:25 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:23:35 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: RTAB alignment? Not only - "urethane bushings don't need to be preloaded" - they cannot be preloaded, to the best of my knowledge. Additionally, as result they are no longer part of the rear spring rate so you end up with a (slightly) softer rear spring. KLB
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Re: Born on the Nurburgring - from Matt Bader
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:48:46 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Born on the Nurburgring Cool! I just saw the Smothers Brothers on TV the other night doing a gig for raising money for public TV. They got their start at the Purple Onion on San Francisco back in 1958! Those of us old enough to remember got a lot of laughs out of the Smothers Brothers shows on TV in the 60's. -----Original Message----- From: jbjerke@charter.net [mailto:jbjerke@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:05 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: Born on the Nurburgring Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 7:01:07 -0700 From: <jbjerke@charter.net> Subject: Re: Born on the Nurburgring I was watching a show on SPEED Saturday morning called Car Crazy and they were interviewing Tommy Smothers of the Smothers Brothers. He was a big car guy in the 60's and 70's and competed in several professional races. He began telling the story of how he had moved on and had lost the "car bug" until he drove a 1998 BMW M3 that sent him head first back into cars, racing etc. Claimed it is the best street car he has ever owned. Jeff Bjerke 1998 Red/Blk Coupe ----------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:16:13 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: [E36M3] Born on the Nurburgring I saw an interesting show on SPEED this weekend called "Born on the Nurburgring." It was oriented toward the track and development of BMW cars in general. But there was a lot of talk about M cars and some nice, but brief clips of E36/46 M3s going around. Anyway, it was interesting, so I thought I'd pass it on. I'm not sure if SPEED will replay, but they tend to repeat stuff quite a bit... Dave "friggin' cat heat shield is rattling AGAIN!" DeBuhr 98 M3/4 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#4. Re: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? - from Mark D
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:58:47 -0400 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? I'm in Lansdale. I'd like to borrow it :) I guess we'll work it out off list once I order my RTAB's. Thanks, Mark Paul Andrews wrote: > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:36:17 -0400 > From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? > > Thanks all for your replies. That was one of the easiest jobs I've done on > the M, thanks to the urethane bushings and the puller tool from BimmerWorld. > That tool saved me many hours of sweating and cursing, I'm sure. Well worth > the price. I'm near Philly, in Lansdale, if anyone wants to borrow it. > Bimmerworld tells me it works on the rear subframe bushings as well. > > Paul Andrews > 98 M3/4 > # 42 STU > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Andrews [mailto:emosound@verizon.net] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:35 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? > > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:32:28 -0400 > From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? > > Hmm, hadn't thought of that. I wonder how much of difference it makes. > Guess I'll find out soon. > Thanks! > > -Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Burgess, Kim L [mailto:kim.l.burgess@boeing.com] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:25 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? > > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:23:35 -0700 > From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> > Subject: RE: RTAB alignment? > > Not only - "urethane bushings don't need to be preloaded" - they cannot > be preloaded, to the best of my knowledge. > Additionally, as result they are no longer part of the rear spring rate > so you end up with a (slightly) softer rear spring. > > KLB > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Re: Born on the Nurburgring - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:18:03 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Born on the Nurburgring I can agree! Best street car I've owned so far. And a darned entertaining autox car. I work for a concert venue, and have had the Smothers Brothers there a couple times. Really nice guys. Their tour manager is a big car guy, too. He has a Lotus Elise. Paul Andrews 98 M3/4 # 42 STU -----Original Message----- From: jbjerke@charter.net [mailto:jbjerke@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:05 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: Born on the Nurburgring Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 7:01:07 -0700 From: <jbjerke@charter.net> Subject: Re: Born on the Nurburgring I was watching a show on SPEED Saturday morning called Car Crazy and they were interviewing Tommy Smothers of the Smothers Brothers. He was a big car guy in the 60's and 70's and competed in several professional races. He began telling the story of how he had moved on and had lost the "car bug" until he drove a 1998 BMW M3 that sent him head first back into cars, racing etc. Claimed it is the best street car he has ever owned. Jeff Bjerke 1998 Red/Blk Coupe
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#6. RE: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:19:58 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? My bushings look great, only 25k miles. But running the 255 Neova tires, they flex enough to let the front part of the sidewall rub the chassis. Trying to eliminate that. We should have an M love day, I'm sure we could bang out 2 RTAB jobs in a day. -Paul -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA [mailto:Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:49 AM To: Paul Andrews Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? Dibs on the tool. My powerflex bushings have been on the shelf for 3 years now. I can move my trailing arms with a good tug, so I know they need replaced. How bad were yours with the mileage so low? Did they really need done? I'd actually wouldn't mind taking a look at the old ones to see how they come out if you still have them. Do the new polys squeek? -----Original Message----- From: Paul Andrews [mailto:emosound@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:45 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:36:17 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? Thanks all for your replies. That was one of the easiest jobs I've done on the M, thanks to the urethane bushings and the puller tool from BimmerWorld. That tool saved me many hours of sweating and cursing, I'm sure. Well worth the price. I'm near Philly, in Lansdale, if anyone wants to borrow it. Bimmerworld tells me it works on the rear subframe bushings as well. Paul Andrews 98 M3/4 # 42 STU -----Original Message----- From: Paul Andrews [mailto:emosound@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:35 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:32:28 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? Hmm, hadn't thought of that. I wonder how much of difference it makes. Guess I'll find out soon. Thanks! -Paul -----Original Message----- From: Burgess, Kim L [mailto:kim.l.burgess@boeing.com] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:25 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] RE: RTAB alignment? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:23:35 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: RTAB alignment? Not only - "urethane bushings don't need to be preloaded" - they cannot be preloaded, to the best of my knowledge. Additionally, as result they are no longer part of the rear spring rate so you end up with a (slightly) softer rear spring. KLB ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#7. Cruise Control issue - from Weston-Lewis, Graeme
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:25:29 -0600 From: "Weston-Lewis, Graeme" <Graeme.Weston-Lewis@lsi.com> Subject: Cruise Control issue When I first engage cruise control, everything works just fine. After a while though, I can feel the CC disengage. Once it does this, I have to cycle the ignition before it will work again. If I'm driving and cycle the ignition, it works for a time a little shorter that the initial working period, but again just disengages for what seems like no reason. Any thoughts on where to start diagnosing the problem? Thanks, Graeme
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Cruise Control issue - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:07:39 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Cruise Control issue Check a bad switch in the clutch and brake circuit. Depressing the clutch or brakes will disengage CC. Just a thought. On Jun 12, 2007, at 10:35 AM, Weston-Lewis, Graeme wrote: > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:25:29 -0600 > From: "Weston-Lewis, Graeme" <Graeme.Weston-Lewis@lsi.com> > Subject: Cruise Control issue > > When I first engage cruise control, everything works just fine. > After a > while though, I can feel the CC disengage. Once it does this, I > have to > cycle the ignition before it will work again. If I'm driving and > cycle > the ignition, it works for a time a little shorter that the initial > working period, but again just disengages for what seems like no > reason. > Any thoughts on where to start diagnosing the problem? > > Thanks, > Graeme > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Cruise Control issue - from Weston-Lewis, Graeme
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:43:18 -0600 From: "Weston-Lewis, Graeme" <Graeme.Weston-Lewis@lsi.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Cruise Control issue Thought about that. If this was the problem, I should be able to simply re-engage the cruise. Unfortunately, once it has cut out, the eonly way to get it to work again is to cycle the ignition :( G -----Original Message----- From: Kent L. Shephard [mailto:e36m3@kshephard.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:08 PM To: Weston-Lewis, Graeme Cc: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Cruise Control issue Check a bad switch in the clutch and brake circuit. Depressing the clutch or brakes will disengage CC. Just a thought. On Jun 12, 2007, at 10:35 AM, Weston-Lewis, Graeme wrote: > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:25:29 -0600 > From: "Weston-Lewis, Graeme" <Graeme.Weston-Lewis@lsi.com> > Subject: Cruise Control issue > > When I first engage cruise control, everything works just fine. > After a > while though, I can feel the CC disengage. Once it does this, I > have to > cycle the ignition before it will work again. If I'm driving and > cycle > the ignition, it works for a time a little shorter that the initial > working period, but again just disengages for what seems like no > reason. > Any thoughts on where to start diagnosing the problem? > > Thanks, > Graeme
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Cruise Control issue - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:12:57 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Cruise Control issue Depends on the fault and failure mode. I would check simple things first. Kent On Jun 12, 2007, at 11:45 AM, Weston-Lewis, Graeme wrote: > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:43:18 -0600 > From: "Weston-Lewis, Graeme" <Graeme.Weston-Lewis@lsi.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Cruise Control issue > > Thought about that. If this was the problem, I should be able to > simply > re-engage the cruise. Unfortunately, once it has cut out, the > eonly way > to get it to work again is to cycle the ignition :( > G > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kent L. Shephard [mailto:e36m3@kshephard.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:08 PM > To: Weston-Lewis, Graeme > Cc: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Cruise Control issue > > Check a bad switch in the clutch and brake circuit. > Depressing the clutch or brakes will disengage CC. > > Just a thought. > On Jun 12, 2007, at 10:35 AM, Weston-Lewis, Graeme wrote: > >> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:25:29 -0600 >> From: "Weston-Lewis, Graeme" <Graeme.Weston-Lewis@lsi.com> >> Subject: Cruise Control issue >> >> When I first engage cruise control, everything works just fine. >> After a >> while though, I can feel the CC disengage. Once it does this, I >> have to >> cycle the ignition before it will work again. If I'm driving and >> cycle >> the ignition, it works for a time a little shorter that the initial >> working period, but again just disengages for what seems like no >> reason. >> Any thoughts on where to start diagnosing the problem? >> >> Thanks, >> Graeme > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >