E36M3 #5291

Wednesday, June 20, 2007 20:16:57

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#1. Active Stage II Super Charger Kit - from Matt Bader
#2. RE: [E36M3] here we go again... - from Matt Bader
#3. Re: [E36M3] Help w/Oil Leak Diagnosis - from Gary
#4. RE: [E36M3] Active Stage II Super Charger Kit - from Matt Bader
#5. Re: [E36M3] here we go again... - from Scott McClung
#6. Re: [E36M3] here we go again... - from Gary
#7. RE: [E36M3] here we go again... - from Stiles
#8. tires - from Brian Ruiz
#9. Re: [E36M3] tires - from Chris Teague
#10. Re: [E36M3] Active Stage II Super Charger Kit - from DocWyte

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#1. Active Stage II Super Charger Kit - from Matt Bader
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 07:36:01 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: Active Stage II Super Charger Kit Hi All: I just purchased a stage II upgrade kit from Active Autowerke for my E36 M3. I am having it installed this week. I dared not do it myself as I cannot afford to spend a whole week-end trying to get things set up correctly. Work is too busy. The kit is for the Rotrex C38 supercharger, and active claims roughly 355 whp with stock manifold, about 20 more with the OBDI manifold conversion. So, we shall see how it goes and what kind of results I get. I am not 100% happy with all of the piping, added weight, complexity that I now have on my car, but the performance trade-off seems worth it. Time will tell... Next will be Jenny Craig for my car, trying to get it under 3000 lbs. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 Active Stage I s/c Stage II pending Other mods

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#2. RE: [E36M3] here we go again... - from Matt Bader
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 07:36:01 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] here we go again... Yeah, it’s a shame these "modern" vehicles, like many Americans, have put on so much weight. Perhaps we need to start up a Jenny Craig for cars. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: mdriver13@aol.com [mailto:mdriver13@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:17 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] here we go again... Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:11:02 -0400 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: here we go again... Group, I was just looking through some mags at Borders.  Came across an article on the awesome new e92 M3.  However, in the stats it stated a gross vehicle weight of 1655 kg -- by my math that's a whopping 3650 lbs.!!!!    Meet the new heifer.  When will this end?! cheers, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Help w/Oil Leak Diagnosis - from Gary
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:03:38 -0500 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Help w/Oil Leak Diagnosis Just pull the dip stick out. I assume its 96+ M3...check where the dipstick Y's off right before the oil pan. If you reused the old O ring that could be the problem, they get brittle and crack if you try to stick them back in the pan sometimes. You may have also pinched the gasket or had it slide off while installing. I used permatex aviation gasket sealer to hold the gasket on the freshly cleaned pan surface. It kept moving around the first time I tried it. At least you caught it now! Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Gantt" <ggantt@gantt-consulting.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:26 PM Subject: [E36M3] Help w/Oil Leak Diagnosis > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:19:30 -0400 > From: Greg Gantt <ggantt@gantt-consulting.com> > Subject: Help w/Oil Leak Diagnosis > > I just repaired my oil pump nut and now have a slight oil leak that > seems to come from the dipstick tube/top of oil pan area. I've already > replaced the o-ring on the tube, which I found I had torn when > installing the pan, and inspected the pan gasket which looks fine. > Anyone out there had a similar problem getting the tube/o-ring/pan to > seal? Should I be using a gasket sealer on the o-ring and tube? I find > it leaks only when driving the car around where I suspect it is > sloshing, so I haven't been able to get a visual on the exact source of > the leak when I have it running in the driveway. > > My biggest fear is that I may have somehow cracked the pan when I > removed it, as it was stuck on the bottom of the motor and I used a > rubberized hammer to dislodge it. I don't see any damage/cracking, but > as you know visibility down there is tough - I don't want to have to > drop the pan again just to inspect. Any ideas how can I diagnose if my > pan is cracked or if it's just the o-ring that's not sealing? > > If you haven't already repaired/checked your oil pump nut, I strongly > recommend doing it as you could be driving a time bomb like I was. When > I dropped the pan, I found the nut was missing completely. I'm guessing > the centering force of the drive chain was the only thing keeping the > sprocket on the shaft. I have no idea how long it was like this - could > have been 12 years or the last turn into the garage before I shut it > down. I did ultimately find the nut lodged in the oil pickup housing. > I had been procrastinating on doing the fix for the past two years. I'm > sure glad I did it now and caught it before the sprocket fell off and > caused major damage. > > > Greg > '95 M3 > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Active Stage II Super Charger Kit - from Matt Bader
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:28:04 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Active Stage II Super Charger Kit Yes, I was thinking of pulling the a/c. Any idea on the weight savings for that? Very muggy here in Delaware today, so probably would miss the A/C! Do you run on 93 octane? Any concerns about overboost or knocking with the turbo set up? Matt -----Original Message----- From: Gary [mailto:probikeguy@probikeusa.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:57 AM To: Matt Bader Subject: Re: [E36M3] Active Stage II Super Charger Kit If they use steel piping you can shave some weight by redoing all the pipe in aluminum. it will not be cheap but saves a nice amount of weight. I did all my Turbo plumbing in Aluminum to save weight. I pulled my AC to remove a bunch of weight too..Its not my Daily river anymore ;o) Gary 95 3.2turbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 6:36 AM Subject: [E36M3] Active Stage II Super Charger Kit > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 07:36:01 -0400 > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > Subject: Active Stage II Super Charger Kit > > Hi All: > > I just purchased a stage II upgrade kit from Active Autowerke for my E36 > M3. > I am having it installed this week. I dared not do it myself as I cannot > afford to spend a whole week-end trying to get things set up correctly. > Work is too busy. > > The kit is for the Rotrex C38 supercharger, and active claims roughly 355 > whp with stock manifold, about 20 more with the OBDI manifold conversion. > So, we shall see how it goes and what kind of results I get. I am not > 100% > happy with all of the piping, added weight, complexity that I now have on > my > car, but the performance trade-off seems worth it. Time will tell... > > Next will be Jenny Craig for my car, trying to get it under 3000 lbs. > > Matt Bader > 98 M3/4 > Active Stage I s/c > Stage II pending > Other mods > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#5. Re: [E36M3] here we go again... - from Scott McClung
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:09:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... That is with full fluids and a driver weight of aprox 160lbs. So basically it is a 3500 car. Scott --- Carlos Lopez <clopez98m3@gmail.com> wrote: > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:24:58 -0400 > From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... > > On 6/19/07, mdriver13@aol.com <mdriver13@aol.com> > wrote: > > I was just looking through some mags at Borders. > Came across an article on the >awesome new e92 M3. > However, in the stats it stated a gross vehicle > weightof >1655 kg -- by my math that's a whopping > 3650 lbs.!!!! Meet the new heifer. When >will this > end?! > > When the company stops selling cars and making > money. :-) > > Carlos. > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#6. Re: [E36M3] here we go again... - from Gary
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:23:26 -0500 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... So it's basically about the same as an E46 weight with a full load and driver... Most of the "target market" wouldn't like a noisy, loud, low optioned M3...My bet is the original owners buy them just for the bragging rights. ;o) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott McClung" <smlists@pacbell.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:09:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... That is with full fluids and a driver weight of aprox 160lbs. So basically it is a 3500 car. Scott --- Carlos Lopez <clopez98m3@gmail.com> wrote: > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:24:58 -0400 > From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... > > On 6/19/07, mdriver13@aol.com <mdriver13@aol.com> > wrote: > > I was just looking through some mags at Borders. > Came across an article on the >awesome new e92 M3. > However, in the stats it stated a gross vehicle > weightof >1655 kg -- by my math that's a whopping > 3650 lbs.!!!! Meet the new heifer. When >will this > end?! > > When the company stops selling cars and making > money. :-) > > Carlos. > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#7. RE: [E36M3] here we go again... - from Stiles
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:12:16 -0700 From: "Stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] here we go again... Read an interesting article in CAR where they interviewed one of the project managers for the new M3. He said that he lost a bet regarding how many people would go for the CS version of the last M3, and another bet having to do with how many of the CS customers would add-back AC and stereo. Bmw's "M" division takeaway was that the truly hardcore market is incredibly small, and their target numbers for e90 M3 sales are bigger than ever. Net: they need to build a more luxurious car and cater to the masses. Sad, but it's business. -----Original Message----- From: Scott McClung [mailto:smlists@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 12:16 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:09:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... That is with full fluids and a driver weight of aprox 160lbs. So basically it is a 3500 car. Scott

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#8. tires - from Brian Ruiz
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:12:42 -0700 From: "Brian Ruiz" <eurowerke@gmail.com> Subject: tires Anyone running 235s in front and 245s in the rear? Times coming up for some new shoes and I would like to minimize the understeer from the 225F/245R combo, but I do want the wider tires in the rear to fill out the well a bit better. Any comments about this setup? Brian build 8/95

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#9. Re: [E36M3] tires - from Chris Teague
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:07:12 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] tires Brian, If you have traction control (96+), the 235/40's are shorter than the 224/45's by a good bit, so that might affect the ACS operation. Why not just do 245/40 all the way around? Chris ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:12:42 -0700 > From: "Brian Ruiz" <eurowerke@gmail.com> > Subject: tires > > Anyone running 235s in front and 245s in the rear? Times coming up for > some > new shoes and I would like to minimize the understeer from the 225F/245R > combo, but I do want the wider tires in the rear to fill out the well a > bit > better. > > Any comments about this setup? > > Brian > build 8/95

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Active Stage II Super Charger Kit - from DocWyte
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:05:23 -0700 From: DocWyte <docwyte@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Active Stage II Super Charger Kit The piping is aluminum and weighs almost nothing, as does the intercooler. The blower itself is the only thing that really adds weight. I'd live your A/C in place unless you're going to gut the entire car. The power you're adding will far and away offset the slight gain in weight. Matt Bader wrote: > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:28:04 -0400 > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Active Stage II Super Charger Kit > > Yes, I was thinking of pulling the a/c. Any idea on the weight savings for > that? Very muggy here in Delaware today, so probably would miss the A/C! > > Do you run on 93 octane? Any concerns about overboost or knocking with the > turbo set up? > > Matt >

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