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#1. RE: [E36M3] Active Stage II Super Charger Kit - from Matt Bader
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:31:23 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Active Stage II Super Charger Kit The piping is black, but not sure what it is made of. The entire kit weighed 36 lbs, but that included the packaging. The intercooler had some weight to it actually. Here is a link to the kit: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=731055 Scroll down and you will see pics of the complete kit. I'll leave the a/c in for now. Comes in handy on rainy days when you are trying to drive out the humidity from inside the car. Eventually I probably will gut the car, but for now it is my daily driver. Thanks for the feedback. Matt -----Original Message----- From: DocWyte [mailto:docwyte@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:05 PM To: Matt Bader Cc: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Active Stage II Super Charger Kit The piping is aluminum and weighs almost nothing, as does the intercooler. The blower itself is the only thing that really adds weight. I'd live your A/C in place unless you're going to gut the entire car. The power you're adding will far and away offset the slight gain in weight. Matt Bader wrote: > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:28:04 -0400 > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Active Stage II Super Charger Kit > > Yes, I was thinking of pulling the a/c. Any idea on the weight savings for > that? Very muggy here in Delaware today, so probably would miss the A/C! > > Do you run on 93 octane? Any concerns about overboost or knocking with the > turbo set up? > > Matt >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] tires - from ben@rogueengineering.com
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:59:27 -0400 (EDT) From: ben@rogueengineering.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] tires <div style="font-family:arial;font-size:10pt;"><FONT style="POSITION: relative" face=arial size=2 name="wm_default_font"> <DIV>Chris is correct. I had an ASC problem when I used 235/40s on the front (with 245/40 on the back) at 80mph. The difference is enough to activate the ASC at this speed and above.<BR><BR>Best Regards,<BR>Ben Liaw<BR>Rogue Engineering</DIV> <DIV><A href="mailto:ben@rogueengineering.com">ben@rogueengineering.com</A></DIV> <DIV>201-444-8150<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Chris Teague <CTEAGUE@COX.NET><BR>Sent: Wed, June 20, 2007 9:16 pm<BR>To: E36M3 <E36M3@BMW-M.NET><BR>Subject: Re: [E36M3] tires<BR><BR>Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:07:12 -0700<BR>From: "Chris Teague" <CTEAGUE@COX.NET><BR>Subject: Re: [E36M3] tires<BR><BR>Brian,<BR><BR>If you have traction control (96+), the 235/40's are shorter than the <BR>224/45's by a good bit, so that might affect the ACS operation. Why not <BR>just do 245/40 all the way around?<BR><BR>Chris<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR><BR>> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:12:42 -0700<BR>> From: "Brian Ruiz" <EUROWERKE@GMAIL.COM><BR>> Subject: tires<BR>><BR>> Anyone running 235s in front and 245s in the rear? Times coming up for <BR>> some<BR>> new shoes and I would like to minimize the understeer from the 225F/245R<BR>> combo, but I do want the wider tires in the rear to fill out the well a <BR>> bit<BR>> better.<BR>><BR>> Any comments about this setup?<BR>><BR>> Brian<BR>> build 8/95<BR><BR><BR><BR>*************************************************<BR>Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors:<BR><BR>Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com<BR>Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com<BR>Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com<BR>Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com<BR>Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com<BR>Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com<BR><BR>DIGEST INFORMATION:<BR>http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm<BR>*************************************************<BR><BR><BR></DIV></FONT></div>
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#3. Re: [E36M3] tires - from Jeff Conner
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:15:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] tires You *could* just drive with ASC off. And not go crazy. One way to solve that potential issue -jeff ----- Original Message ---- From: "ben@rogueengineering.com" <ben@rogueengineering.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 7:06:30 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] tires Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:59:27 -0400 (EDT) From: ben@rogueengineering.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] tires Chris is correct. I had an ASC problem when I used 235/40s on the front (with 245/40 on the back) at 80mph. The difference is enough to activate the ASC at this speed and above. Best Regards, Ben Liaw Rogue Engineering ben@rogueengineering.com 201-444-8150 -----Original Message----- From: Chris Teague Sent: Wed, June 20, 2007 9:16 pm To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] tires Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:07:12 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" Subject: Re: [E36M3] tires Brian, If you have traction control (96+), the 235/40's are shorter than the 224/45's by a good bit, so that might affect the ACS operation. Why not just do 245/40 all the way around? Chris ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:12:42 -0700 > From: "Brian Ruiz" > Subject: tires > > Anyone running 235s in front and 245s in the rear? Times coming up for > some > new shoes and I would like to minimize the understeer from the 225F/245R > combo, but I do want the wider tires in the rear to fill out the well a > bit > better. > > Any comments about this setup? > > Brian > build 8/95 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
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#4. RE: [E36M3] tires - from Reed Nicholson
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:38:47 -0700 From: "Reed Nicholson" <reedthis@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] tires I've been running the 235/40's and 245/40's for years, with no problems, ASC or otherwise, at any speed, on my 98 M3. I think it's a good setup if you don't want to switch to same size all around. Reed/Seattle > > Anyone running 235s in front and 245s in the rear? Times > coming up for some new shoes and I would like to minimize the > understeer from the 225F/245R combo, but I do want the wider > tires in the rear to fill out the well a bit better. > > Any comments about this setup? > > Brian > build 8/95 >
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#5. Re: Oil Pump Nut - from Matthew Finlay
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:37:03 -0500 From: "Matthew Finlay" <matthew.finlay@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Oil Pump Nut Greg, do you have aluminum pulleys? If I remember correctly, there was at least one post on the forums that said this oil pump nut behavior was highly correlated to using lightweight pulleys...sounds somewhat reasonable to me, though I don't have experience with the vibration calculations that might lead to this behavior. Haven't done differential equations in 6 years...and I hope I don't have to do them again any time soon. Anyone else know the true cause? ----------old message by Greg Gantt------------ <snip> > If you haven't already repaired/checked your oil pump nut, I strongly > recommend doing it as you could be driving a time bomb like I was. When > I dropped the pan, I found the nut was missing completely. <snip>
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:52:28 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut On Jun 20, 2007, at 8:46 PM, Matthew Finlay wrote: > Greg, do you have aluminum pulleys? If I remember correctly, there > was at > least one post on the forums that said this oil pump nut behavior > was highly > correlated to using lightweight pulleys...sounds somewhat > reasonable to me, > though I don't have experience with the vibration calculations that > might > lead to this behavior. Haven't done differential equations in 6 > years...and > I hope I don't have to do them again any time soon. > > Anyone else know the true cause? It's highly correlated to spinning the engine backwards (get the clutch in when you spin!). It's also highly correlated to E36s and E46s. Jim Bassett, White Courtesy Phone! - Mark ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing homepage at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:06:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut On Wed, June 20, 2007 8:56 pm, Mark Dadgar wrote: > It's highly correlated to spinning the engine backwards (get the > clutch in when you spin!). Or possibly a "simple" over-rev. > Jim Bassett, White Courtesy Phone! :-p~ Car was over-reved, not spun, prior to the oil pump nut "issue". Any car that has seen, or will see, track time, should have this addressed IMO. In some cases it may just be a preventative/peace-of-mind thing - the oil pump nut was tight on the M3 after ~10,000 track miles when we went in and secured it. Jim Bassett - is it necessary to say "BTDT, have the rebuild bill to prove it"?...didn't think so :-)
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#8. Re: [E36M3] here we go again... - from Scott M
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:45:36 -0700 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... True, but at least they do still make a ~3100lb true sports car coupe in the Z4-M. Just no back seat. Can't have both. Dammit anyway. Even the new Evo is growing in features, luxury and heft - up to 3500lbs from the previous car around 3300. So even in the more hard-core enthusiast market, the car companies are realizing they can sell more cars with a more luxury slant. I agree it is sad. Still, the E90 M3 in 4-door version will be one heck of a sedan, and will be some 300-400lbs lighter than it's nearest competition the S4/ RS4, not to mention far better weight distribution. It won't be quite as tossable as the E36, but it will have great power, awesome torque, and still should have magical precision, steering feel, balance that go along with a BMW M-car. And it is quite a bit lighter and with a shorter wheelbase than a E39 M5 with basically same engine, so as a sedan it is going to rock. In fact, even compared with a 911 Turbo it should have comparable performance - those are 3500lbs now too and with similar thrust. Scott On Jun 20, 2007, at 1:16 PM, Stiles wrote: > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:12:16 -0700 > From: "Stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] here we go again... > > Read an interesting article in CAR where they interviewed one of > the project > managers for the new M3. He said that he lost a bet regarding how many > people would go for the CS version of the last M3, and another bet > having to > do with how many of the CS customers would add-back AC and stereo. > Bmw's "M" > division takeaway was that the truly hardcore market is incredibly > small, > and their target numbers for e90 M3 sales are bigger than ever. > Net: they > need to build a more luxurious car and cater to the masses. > > Sad, but it's business. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott McClung [mailto:smlists@pacbell.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 12:16 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... > > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:09:06 -0700 (PDT) > From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... > > That is with full fluids and a driver weight of aprox > 160lbs. So basically it is a 3500 car. > > Scott > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 06:52:09 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut > > It's highly correlated to spinning the engine backwards (get the > > clutch in when you spin!). > > Or possibly a "simple" over-rev. The oilpump nut on my 02 330i came off during a spin at the track, I didn't get the clutch pedal in soon enough and stalled the engine. The symptoms were a complete and immediate loss of oil pressure, so I am pretty sure that's what did it. What I am not sure about is what the mechanical reason is that the nut comes off. Even if the engine and therefore oilpump "spin backwards" which I am pretty sure did not happen in my case, the oilpump drive shaft is a splined shaft which prevents the oilpump gear from spinning on the shaft and unscrewing the nut. It's hard to imagine that a tiny little nut with almost no mass could effectively be unscrewed by stopping it's rotation quickly (stalling the car as happened in my case) or even spinning the engine backwards especially since it isn't like it'd be going backwards very quickly. My personal theory is that these nuts loosen up very soon after the cars leave the factory and most of us who haven't Locktited/wired the nut are driving a ticking time bomb. By the time we spin or overrev at the track that oilpump nut is just hanging on by a thread or two and the sudden decrease in engine speed is enough to just spin it off, whereas if the nut was tight there would be no problem at all. Anyway, just my $.02. Regards Jamie Howton 06 M Roadster 04 645Ci SMG 95 M3
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut - from Stiles
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 08:58:53 -0700 From: "Stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut Great, thanks Jamie... Now not only am I worrying about my transmission, my cooling system, my power seats, my power windows, my sunroof, my steering rack, my heater core, and all of the balljoints in my rear suspension -- now I get to add the data that my engine's a ticking time bomb... Sweet :) Scott. -----Original Message----- From: Jamie Howton [mailto:jhowton@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:56 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 06:52:09 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut > > It's highly correlated to spinning the engine backwards (get the > > clutch in when you spin!). > > Or possibly a "simple" over-rev. The oilpump nut on my 02 330i came off during a spin at the track, I didn't get the clutch pedal in soon enough and stalled the engine. The symptoms were a complete and immediate loss of oil pressure, so I am pretty sure that's what did it. What I am not sure about is what the mechanical reason is that the nut comes off. Even if the engine and therefore oilpump "spin backwards" which I am pretty sure did not happen in my case, the oilpump drive shaft is a splined shaft which prevents the oilpump gear from spinning on the shaft and unscrewing the nut. It's hard to imagine that a tiny little nut with almost no mass could effectively be unscrewed by stopping it's rotation quickly (stalling the car as happened in my case) or even spinning the engine backwards especially since it isn't like it'd be going backwards very quickly. My personal theory is that these nuts loosen up very soon after the cars leave the factory and most of us who haven't Locktited/wired the nut are driving a ticking time bomb. By the time we spin or overrev at the track that oilpump nut is just hanging on by a thread or two and the sudden decrease in engine speed is enough to just spin it off, whereas if the nut was tight there would be no problem at all. Anyway, just my $.02. Regards Jamie Howton 06 M Roadster 04 645Ci SMG 95 M3