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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:30:05 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut <SNIP> > and all of the balljoints in my rear suspension -- now I get to add the data > that my engine's a ticking time bomb... <SNIP> Scott, Sorry to have alarmed you, however OTOH, after I lost my oilpump at the track I drove the car off track and then onto my trailer with zero oil pressure (I know I'm not the smartest guy in the world). I sent an oil sample to Blackstone labs for analysis and all of the readings were normal. After repairing the car I put another 60K miles on it and did regular oil analysis and every analysis showed normal for wear. I sold the car at almost 70K miles (with full disclosure to the buyer) without any indications that there was any engine damage. So I am not sure that having the oilpump nut come off is _that_ much of a problem except if you don't notice the big red warning light on the dash and keep driving it until everything welds itself together. Regards Jamie
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:06:33 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut Good grief - reading all this makes me ask - is this a DIY job and what level of difficulty are we talking about?
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:10:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut On Thu, June 21, 2007 9:36 am, Jamie Howton wrote: > So I > am not sure that having the oilpump nut come off is _that_ much of a > problem except if you don't notice the big red warning light on the > dash and keep driving it until everything welds itself together. :-P~ For the record nothing was "welded together". Just misshapen and discolored :-) And, I had just lowered the seat mounting, and hadn't realized (until it was too late :-)) that the top of the steering wheel blocked the warning light. Whoops. "Lucky" for me that my mechanic was as the event with his trailer.. Jim Bassett - driven the race car *to* 2 LV races, 0-2 on the driving home part
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut - from Brian Ruiz
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:10:44 -0700 From: "Brian Ruiz" <eurowerke@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut If you have an engine hoist to lift the engine up off the front subframe... it's a piece of cake! ;) Brian build 8/95 On 6/21/07, Gus Iverson <gus.iverson@gmail.com> wrote: > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:06:33 -0700 > From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut > > Good grief - reading all this makes me ask - is this a DIY job and > what level of difficulty are we talking about? > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:13:02 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut On Jun 21, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Gus Iverson wrote: > Good grief - reading all this makes me ask - is this a DIY job and > what level of difficulty are we talking about? It's a PITA on an E36. You have to drop the subframe to get to the oil pan, and that requires suspending the engine while you do it. - Mark ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing homepage at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:17:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut On Thu, June 21, 2007 10:06 am, Gus Iverson wrote: > Good grief - reading all this makes me ask - is this a DIY job and > what level of difficulty are we talking about? Despite my experiences, I wouldn't get too paranoid about this. However, I don't think it's terribly difficult, just time consuming. You'll need to lower or drop the front subframe so that you can remove the oil pan. Once that's off, simply secure the pump nut with your choice of solutions - both my cars (and MarkD's race car too, IIRC) had the bolt threads center punched (can't recall if we also used Loctite. This would be a good opportunity to also change your control arms and perform the subframe reinforcement: <http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=TDR3675301> (Or wait til you've scheduled those items to do the oil pump nut - that's what I did with the M3). Cheers, Jim Bassett
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut - from Benjamin Hirsch
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:51:05 -0700 From: "Benjamin Hirsch" <benjamin.hirsch@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oil Pump Nut Also, if you are tracking the car or or plan to track the car, this is the perfect time (if you haven't already) to look into baffling the oil pan. -Ben
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#8. Re: [E36M3] here we go again... - from Reid Conti
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:09:19 -0700 From: "Reid Conti" <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... Funny, Chevy's about the only one shaving weight off their sports car. The current Z06 is, what, 3130#? That's within spitting distance of my 3060# Z3 MCoupe. And I heard a rumor that the Z06 has just a tad more power than my ride. - reid On 6/20/07, Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> wrote: > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:45:36 -0700 > From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... > > True, but at least they do still make a ~3100lb true sports car coupe > in the Z4-M. > Just no back seat. Can't have both. Dammit anyway. Even the new > Evo is growing in features, luxury and heft - up to 3500lbs from the > previous car around 3300. So even in the more hard-core enthusiast > market, the car companies are realizing they can sell more cars with > a more luxury slant. I agree it is sad. > Still, the E90 M3 in 4-door version will be one heck of a sedan, and > will be some 300-400lbs lighter than it's nearest competition the S4/ > RS4, not to mention far better weight distribution. It won't be > quite as tossable as the E36, but it will have great power, awesome > torque, and still should have magical precision, steering feel, > balance that go along with a BMW M-car. And it is quite a bit > lighter and with a shorter wheelbase than a E39 M5 with basically > same engine, so as a sedan it is going to rock. In fact, even > compared with a 911 Turbo it should have comparable performance - > those are 3500lbs now too and with similar thrust. > > Scott > > On Jun 20, 2007, at 1:16 PM, Stiles wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:12:16 -0700 > > From: "Stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] here we go again... > > > > Read an interesting article in CAR where they interviewed one of > > the project > > managers for the new M3. He said that he lost a bet regarding how many > > people would go for the CS version of the last M3, and another bet > > having to > > do with how many of the CS customers would add-back AC and stereo. > > Bmw's "M" > > division takeaway was that the truly hardcore market is incredibly > > small, > > and their target numbers for e90 M3 sales are bigger than ever. > > Net: they > > need to build a more luxurious car and cater to the masses. > > > > Sad, but it's business. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Scott McClung [mailto:smlists@pacbell.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 12:16 PM > > To: E36M3 > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... > > > > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:09:06 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... > > > > That is with full fluids and a driver weight of aprox > > 160lbs. So basically it is a 3500 car. > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#9. Wheel Repair - from Grant Fairweather
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:29:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Grant Fairweather <grantfairweather@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Wheel Repair Anyone ever utilize Wheels America (Frixrim.com) for wheel repair? More specifically, to repair a cracked wheel? One of my 3-piece Fikse FM/10s had an unfortunate run in with a monster pothole, and the pothole won. The wheel developed a slow leak, and upon inspection, I discovered a small crack that starts on the inside edge and proceeds inwards for approx 2". I emailed pics to Wheels America, and they responded that there are several types of cracks which they will not repair, but my crack is not one of them. I'm not an expert on welding, but assuming that the barrel of the wheel is not out of round, does a welding repair of this nature seem to be a viable option? If this welding repair presents any potential for risk, then I'll simply pursue options with Fikse to replace the inner rim section. Thanks in advace. Grant 98 M3/4 Chicago 'burbs
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Wheel Repair - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:47:05 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Wheel Repair Grant, Isn't the entire point of three piece wheels so that you can replace any damaged parts? Personally I would not use any wheels that have been repaired to the point that welding is required. If it were my wheel I would call Fikse and have them repair it correctly. Regards Jamie
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#11. Re: [E36M3] Wheel Repair - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:51:24 -0400 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Wheel Repair Getting the rim half is definitely an option. That's what my local tire shop did when I had a similar thing happen (though mine wasn't leaking air). Probably about the same $$ too, especially if you're not shipping the wheel anywhere. Andrej '97 M3 Grant Fairweather wrote: > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:29:48 -0700 (PDT) > From: Grant Fairweather <grantfairweather@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Wheel Repair > > Anyone ever utilize Wheels America (Frixrim.com) for wheel repair? More specifically, to repair a cracked wheel? One of my 3-piece Fikse FM/10s had an unfortunate run in with a monster pothole, and the pothole won. The wheel developed a slow leak, and upon inspection, I discovered a small crack that starts on the inside edge and proceeds inwards for approx 2". I emailed pics to Wheels America, and they responded that there are several types of cracks which they will not repair, but my crack is not one of them. I'm not an expert on welding, but assuming that the barrel of the wheel is not out of round, does a welding repair of this nature seem to be a viable option? If this welding repair presents any potential for risk, then I'll simply pursue options with Fikse to replace the inner rim section. > > Thanks in advace. > > Grant > 98 M3/4 > Chicago 'burbs >
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#12. RE: [E36M3] Wheel Repair - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:53:14 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Wheel Repair I've come to understand from places that repaired wheels for me in the past, welding actually fatigues the metal on either side of the seam and with a multi piece wheel and given the option to replace part of it with new, better to do so. Is the crack on a butt weld? Even though you don't see a bend, you might actually be out or round when spun on a lathe. Reason #2 to get a replacement shell perhaps. A 3rd group of reasons would be age, cosmetics (rash etc) history/amount of heat cycling, (racing) on them, which speeds the process of wearing them out. Consider the cost of replacing the shell vs having the crack welded/wheel straightened, the numbers might not be as far as part as you think, hence reason why some go with multi piece wheels to begin with. Good luck. Patrick 97 M3/4 13 wheels for M3, even more sets of tires, most worn out. -----Original Message----- From: Grant Fairweather [mailto:grantfairweather@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:36 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Wheel Repair Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:29:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Grant Fairweather <grantfairweather@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Wheel Repair Anyone ever utilize Wheels America (Frixrim.com) for wheel repair? More specifically, to repair a cracked wheel? One of my 3-piece Fikse FM/10s had an unfortunate run in with a monster pothole, and the pothole won. The wheel developed a slow leak, and upon inspection, I discovered a small crack that starts on the inside edge and proceeds inwards for approx 2". I emailed pics to Wheels America, and they responded that there are several types of cracks which they will not repair, but my crack is not one of them. I'm not an expert on welding, but assuming that the barrel of the wheel is not out of round, does a welding repair of this nature seem to be a viable option? If this welding repair presents any potential for risk, then I'll simply pursue options with Fikse to replace the inner rim section. Thanks in advace. Grant 98 M3/4 Chicago 'burbs ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#13. Re: [E36M3] here we go again... - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:53:38 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] here we go again... On 6/21/07, Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> wrote: > Still, the E90 M3 in 4-door version will be one heck of a sedan, and > will be some 300-400lbs lighter than it's nearest competition the S4/ > RS4, not to mention far better weight distribution. So is that confirmed about the 4 door? The M brand manager spoke at the F1 Corral last weekend at Indy and when asked he quoted some sales numbers comparing the E36 M3 (combined 2dr and 4dr) and the E46 M3. It didn't sound to me like a 4dr E90 M3 made any sense from that stand point. I can't recall all that much about his speech frankly, the only thing I remember is that the launch of the E92 M3 would be in Europe next year (in Spain I think). Carlos 98 M3