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#1. Re: [E36M3] 2008 M3 Sedan / OT - from Scott M
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:12:10 -0700 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2008 M3 Sedan / OT Probably an ordered car thru ED would be at US sticker or better. Not inventory cars for sure. But I would order one for sure, so I got the color combo I wanted and the couple options without loading it up needlessly and driving the price way up there. Probably could order one for delivery in US for sticker too. And yes - much smarter to wait a few years, let them get the bugs out and let demand cool down a bit. Scott On Jun 25, 2007, at 4:27 PM, Jim Bassett wrote: > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:24:10 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2008 M3 Sedan / OT > > On Mon, June 25, 2007 4:17 pm, Scott McClung wrote: >> And that will be one mondo car payment for the M3 - > > No kidding; one of the main reasons I was able to get the M3 when I > did > was that I was able to finance most of it. Not again. > >> guessing they won't be dealing on those anytime soon!! > > "Dealing"? Heck, one would be lucky to find one at MSRP initially. > > It'll most likely have a 5-7 year run, I can wait (I did with the > M3, got > one of the last sedans - 4/98 production, all sedans ceased in 5/98, > IIRC). > > Jim Bassett > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Passenger front seat occupancy sensor - from Avedis, Alexander (US SSA)
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:13:57 -0400 From: "Avedis, Alexander (US SSA)" <alexander.avedis@baesystems.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Passenger front seat occupancy sensor Dave, I can reset the error but no message is displayed. When reset, a person can sit in the seat, buckle the belt and the dash light remains off. The next heavyset person can just sit in the seat and not do anything else and the dash light will come on but no error message. Perhaps it's a function of the diagnostic software? Alex 98 M3/4 ======================================================================== = Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:33:13 -0700 From: David Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Passenger front seat occupancy sensor On Wednesday 27 June 2007 9:17:21 pm Avedis, Alexander (US SSA) wrote: > I'm getting the airbag warning light come on in the dash whenever a > heavy set person sits in the front passenger seat. They do not have to > attempt to buckle the seatbelt for the light to come on. This was > determined after multiple resets of the light but no error code being > offered. Check the connectors underneath the seat. I had an intermittent sensor error that was solved by cleaning the contacts of the sensor connector under the seat. However...I always had an error code for the seat sensors. You don't get any error code at all? Dave
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#3. Re: Tires (now phat fenders) - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:23:46 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Tires (now phat fenders) on 6/28/07 12:57 AM, Jay G <jguzman@hawaii.edu> wrote: > how 'bout some jeep CJ fenders...would reduce the cost of the project :D > http://edgemotorworks.com/images/stories/users/erik%20may%2020.jpg Love those front and rear drawbridges too. Who knew the medieval look was the coming thing? Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Passenger front seat occupancy sensor - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:07:13 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Passenger front seat occupancy sensor On 6/28/07, Avedis, Alexander (US SSA) <alexander.avedis@baesystems.com> wrote: > The next heavyset person can just sit in the seat and not do anything > else and the dash light will come on but no error message. The heavy set person displaces the sensor mat more or whatever the occupancy system consists of probably causing the short. I think you're going to have to take the seat apart to investigate and solve the problem. Sounds like a PITA. :-) Carlos 98 M3
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#5. Re: [E36M3] 2008 M3 Sedan / OT - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:03:24 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2008 M3 Sedan / OT On 6/25/07, Foley, Brian <bfoley@cmpd.org> wrote: > Ok, non-believers. The M3 sedan is a reality; spy shots on several web > sites confirm it, despite some naysayers here and there who said that > not enough interest in the US would keep development from producing the > car. OK but when the naysayer is the M brand manager you'd think he'd be a little more reliable source than some UK magazine. And it was not US interest the reason he said the cars didn't make sense, he quoted volume numbers and past sales figures. I personally think the 4 door makes sense, it's the convertibles that I find ridiculous. :-) Carlos 98 M3
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Tires (now phat fenders) - from jeff.conner@yahoo.com
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:18:23 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff.conner@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Tires (now phat fenders) Actually know that guy. He told me at the last autocross that he's finally geting around to ordering the full MA Shaw PTG body kit. So you konw, there's very little BMW left in that car. His 'specs' from his sig in an autocross forum... " 1995 BMW M3, CCW 17x11 & 12 wheels, 335/275 17" Kumhos, LS-1, .600 Lift Cam cams, TEC-3 Stand Alone chip, Custom EDGE 3.91 LSD differential, Spintech exhaust, Powerglide Autotragic flywheel, modified headers, Turbohoses intake, Spherical bushings, Moton Clubsports, Softer than you think springs, GC Front, Itty Bitty Rear sway bars, Stockers brakes, Maier Racing Custom Fab roll cage, Just One seat" Crazy car to watch and listen to... -jeff ----- Original Message ---- From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> on 6/28/07 12:57 AM, Jay G <jguzman@hawaii.edu> wrote: > how 'bout some jeep CJ fenders...would reduce the cost of the project :D > http://edgemotorworks.com/images/stories/users/erik%20may%2020.jpg Love those front and rear drawbridges too. Who knew the medieval look was the coming thing? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Passenger front seat occupancy sensor - from David Thomas
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:52:21 -0700 From: David Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Passenger front seat occupancy sensor On Thursday 28 June 2007 5:17:21 am Avedis, Alexander (US SSA) wrote: > Perhaps it's a function of the diagnostic software? What reset tool are you using? I am pretty sure you should always be able to retrieve an error code if the SRS light is coming on. Dave
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#8. Shock options - from KC Boyce
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:53:52 -0400 From: "KC Boyce" <k_boyce@e30eta.com> Subject: Shock options All, It's about time for new shocks on the crew cab. However, I'm very torn. I've taken pains (and spent some money) to make sure that the M3 stays original - all replacement/maintenance parts to date have been Original BMW w/ receipts to back it up. However, pricing out a set of Original BMW shocks comes to around $850. For $200 less, I could get a full set of Bilsteins from TMS. I had a good experience with Bilsteins on my E30, and like their lifetime warranty & extended performance vs. having to replace OE shocks again in 80k miles. I've read varying opinions about Bilsteins for the M3 - everything from similar to stock to just a bit firmer to harsh. Obviously, everyone has their own preferences, but I'd appreciate any insight the group may have on my choices. Also, am I being silly in insisting on OE BMW Parts? I feel like BMW really got the E36 M3 right from the factory.not much room for improvement (at least as an all-around car serving primarily as a daily driver!), and have wanted to keep the stock "feel". KC Boyce '97 M3/4
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Shock options - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:27:02 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shock options Hi, I opted for Bilstein Sports when it was time to replace the shocks on my car. They are a little stiffer than sock with the stock springs but work great. I wouldn't go back to stock. While you are doing the shocks, check the control arm bushings. Also go for a set of UUC,r somebodies RSMs (rear shock mounts). The stock ones from the bavarians are crap. Kent On Jun 28, 2007, at 8:57 AM, KC Boyce wrote: > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:53:52 -0400 > From: "KC Boyce" <k_boyce@e30eta.com> > Subject: Shock options > > All, > > > > It's about time for new shocks on the crew cab. However, I'm very > torn. > I've taken pains (and spent some money) to make sure that the M3 stays > original - all replacement/maintenance parts to date have been > Original BMW > w/ receipts to back it up. > > > > However, pricing out a set of Original BMW shocks comes to around > $850. For > $200 less, I could get a full set of Bilsteins from TMS. I had a good > experience with Bilsteins on my E30, and like their lifetime > warranty & > extended performance vs. having to replace OE shocks again in 80k > miles. > > > > I've read varying opinions about Bilsteins for the M3 - everything > from > similar to stock to just a bit firmer to harsh. Obviously, > everyone has > their own preferences, but I'd appreciate any insight the group may > have on > my choices. > > > > Also, am I being silly in insisting on OE BMW Parts? I feel like > BMW really > got the E36 M3 right from the factory.not much room for improvement > (at > least as an all-around car serving primarily as a daily driver!), > and have > wanted to keep the stock "feel". > > > > KC Boyce > > '97 M3/4 > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Shock options - from Rex Tener
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:59:33 -0700 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shock options At 08:57 AM 6/28/2007, KC Boyce wrote: >I've read varying opinions about Bilsteins for the M3 - everything from >similar to stock to just a bit firmer to harsh. Obviously, everyone has >their own preferences, but I'd appreciate any insight the group may have on >my choices. I have had three sets of Bilsteins on three different M3's. The first two generations of Bilsteins were fine for me with stock springs, but others thought they were a little harsh with stock or lowered springs. This latest generation is really plush, maybe a little too plush for my taste, but work excellent with stock springs. Bilsteins are my shock of choice for pure street cars and trucks. I currently have them on my Tacoma and M3, will be installed soon on my Mazda 6 Wagon, and I should have put them on my M Coupe. >Also, am I being silly in insisting on OE BMW Parts? I personally don't think so, all three of my M3's have only had OE BMW parts except for aftermarket mods. Given how many BMW dealers have internet pricing that is so close to the OEM parts guys, IMHO, I don't see a reason to not go OE. Rex
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#11. 135 confirmed for '09 - from L R
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:03:00 -0700 (PDT) From: L R <lhrc51@yahoo.com> Subject: 135 confirmed for '09 I want it... <http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Sportscars_Convertibles/2009_BMW_1-Series_Coupe_Preview.S184.A12527.html> --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more.