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#1. Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 - from Tucker Ryals
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:34:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Tucker Ryals <tuckerryals@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 What about a 4-door?? I'd much rather have a 135i sedan than a 335i sedan. Not just based on size or weight. The looks of the 135i coupe are stunning! It may be the first Bangle car I love. Interestingly, I bet the size of a 135i sedan would be very close to the size of an e36 M3 sedan. But everything I've read indicates that the only 1 series cars to come here will be the coupe and cabrio. Why is that? Would a 135i sedan kill sales of the 335i sedan? -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:25:52 -0400 From: marty <mfraiser@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 now that's a BMW i'd consider buying new - will start saving money now. I'd like a touring/hatchback though which we'll probably not see here in the States if the aforementioned Marketing Group has it's way. cheers, marty ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
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#2. Re: [E36M3] 2008 M3 Sedan / OT - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:42:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2008 M3 Sedan / OT I completely agree - if you want a convertible, just get a 335i. Of course, seems that at least 1/3 of M3's sold are ragtops - majority to women too. So go figure. Scott --- Carlos Lopez <clopez98m3@gmail.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:03:24 -0400 > From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2008 M3 Sedan / OT > > On 6/25/07, Foley, Brian <bfoley@cmpd.org> wrote: > > Ok, non-believers. The M3 sedan is a reality; spy > shots on several web > > sites confirm it, despite some naysayers here and > there who said that > > not enough interest in the US would keep > development from producing the > > car. > > OK but when the naysayer is the M brand manager > you'd think he'd be a > little more reliable source than some UK magazine. > And it was not US > interest the reason he said the cars didn't make > sense, he quoted > volume numbers and past sales figures. > > I personally think the 4 door makes sense, it's the > convertibles that > I find ridiculous. :-) > > Carlos > 98 M3 > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#3. Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 - from jeff.conner@yahoo.com
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:44:12 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff.conner@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 A 135iT...The hatchback! *THAT's* the car they should release over here :-) -jeff *actually dreaming of an ///M3 wagon... ----- Original Message ---- From: Tucker Ryals <tuckerryals@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 What about a 4-door?? I'd much rather have a 135i sedan than a 335i sedan. Not just based on size or weight. The looks of the 135i coupe are stunning! It may be the first Bangle car I love. Interestingly, I bet the size of a 135i sedan would be very close to the size of an e36 M3 sedan. But everything I've read indicates that the only 1 series cars to come here will be the coupe and cabrio. Why is that? Would a 135i sedan kill sales of the 335i sedan? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front
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#4. Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 - from Rex Tener
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:53:54 -0700 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 At 01:37 PM 6/28/2007, Tucker Ryals wrote: >What about a 4-door?? What about a 4-door hatch (5-door)? Oh well, the less cool cars that they bring here means the less money I have to beg my wife for. :-) Money I have saved so far ... E46 M3 Sedan (to be sold when the Touring came out) E46 M3 Touring E60 M5 Touring And potentially in the future ... E90 M3 Sedan E90 M3 Touring 135i 5-door My current solution to this problem is two cars, a 1998 M3 sedan and a 2004 Mazda 6 Wagon V6 5-speed manual. Rex
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#5. RE: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 - from Stiles
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:04:41 -0700 From: "Stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 US version: http://jalopnik.com/cars/the-us-one/us-specs-of-bmw-1+series-coupe-arrive-ea rly-too-273243.php -----Original Message----- From: Rex Tener [mailto:rex_tener@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:57 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:53:54 -0700 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 At 01:37 PM 6/28/2007, Tucker Ryals wrote: >What about a 4-door?? What about a 4-door hatch (5-door)? Oh well, the less cool cars that they bring here means the less money I have to beg my wife for. :-) Money I have saved so far ... E46 M3 Sedan (to be sold when the Touring came out) E46 M3 Touring E60 M5 Touring And potentially in the future ... E90 M3 Sedan E90 M3 Touring 135i 5-door My current solution to this problem is two cars, a 1998 M3 sedan and a 2004 Mazda 6 Wagon V6 5-speed manual. Rex ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#6. Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:05:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 More info and pics here: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=523 I am watching this with paticular interest as well. I tend to more easily justify $3xK cars than $6xK cars. My car wants are basically what the E36 M3 offered but with a bit better fit / finish / quality, at least 300hp, 0-60 near 5.0sec, RWD, 50/50 weight distribution, manual trans, option for roof rack to mount bikes, rear seat capable of transporting kids, folding seat for more cargo space options including carrying a bike, weight closer to 3Klbs than 3.5Klbs, and all that for about $35K new. The choices right now are basically nil to meet all those requirements. I am already starting to earn for a sports sedan again after giving up my Evo for a pro-touring 69 Camaro. I love the classic, but it rides very rough, I can't take the kids very far in it because they complain about open windows, plus I worry about the back seat roll bar and only lap belts. I can't carry my bike in it. I can't drive it when it gets up into the mid 80's because I start sweating in my business clothes (black cloth interior, open windows), I can't take cell phone calls on it, wife won't ride in it, sits on the weekends because normally have the family in tow with me. So pretty much what that translates into is a nice museum piece that is great garage eye candy... But not too practical for my life. And all I ever drive is my Titan pick-up. Which is nice and all. But I do get withdrawls from owning a nice practical sports sedan - over the past 6 years the following cars fit that need for me: - E36 M3/4 - E39 M5 - Z06 (OK, less practical so I got rid of it) - CTS-V - Evo I have been racking my braing thinking what would fit my needs and the car that comes closest to meeting my above criteria is the E46 M3. But, for $35K you are getting a 4 year old car with 50K miles that is just going out of warrantee. And it has a complex and expensive engine that more than likely will not be cheap to keep running out of warrantee. Some other options I have thought about: - S4 - nice, but too heavy, understeers, bad mpg - Evo / STi - I tried that route, too raw for my tastes, not enough refinement in the interior, and I prefer RWD to AWD. - C32 / C55 AMG - great cars, biggest complaint is AT trans only - Z4 or Z3 M coupe - give up ability to carry bike or kids, which is major for me - Z4 version is also pricey, over $50K although lease rates are attractive - 996 - probably my favorite option so far, although the rear seats are not really suitable for kids over 10 which mine both are, so major compromise there - also, concern over maint issues since you are getting a 5 year old car for your $35K. But really - the more I think about it, the 135 is the only car that really meets all of my criteria and comes right in my budget range with a brand new car with full maint and warrantee for 4 years, 50K miles. Just need to wait it out another year and then decide if I schedule a ED for the fall or the spring. Gives me some time to enjoy the 69 for awhile longer, which I don't mind at all. The hardest thing will be calming my wife down that I am getting a brand new BMW and she isn't getting the 328 ragtop she has been wanting. Maybe I can solve that my picking her up a used Z3. I don't see the 3 series ragtop working as her only car - just not enough room for passengers or cargo - her current car is a 2003 Mazda Protege5 wagon, which isn't worth much so I just can't justify selling it, especially with our oldest reaching driving age in 3 years. Scott --- L R <lhrc51@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:03:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: L R <lhrc51@yahoo.com> > Subject: 135 confirmed for '09 > > I want it... > > > <http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Sportscars_Convertibles/2009_BMW_1-Series_Coupe_Preview.S184.A12527.html> > > > > > --------------------------------- > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet > in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:09:21 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 > Oh well, the less cool cars that they bring here means the less money > I have to beg my wife for. My motto when faced with these issues is: "It is much better to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission" ;-) Regards Jamie
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#8. Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:09:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 I hear the touring 1 series will be Europe only. I agree - I would much rather have a hatchback version. But I'll take the sedan since it has fold down seats, meets much the same purpose for my needs. BTW - does BMW have a credit car to earn points towards car purchases? I need to look into that and stop spending money on this GM card that I most likely will never use, unless they launch a G8 with a 450hp+ LS7, then I will have to think about it long and hard. Scott --- marty <mfraiser@earthlink.net> wrote: > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:25:52 -0400 > From: marty <mfraiser@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 > > now that's a BMW i'd consider buying new - will > start saving money now. > I'd like a touring/hatchback though which we'll > probably not see here in > the States if the aforementioned Marketing Group has > it's way. > > cheers, > marty > > mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:49:27 -0400 > > From: mdriver13@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 > > > > Okay, let's start forming?a line -- I'm next.? > This baby looks like the real-deal.? Can only hope > BMW's Marketing Group does not interfere! > > > > cheers, > > > > > > Bob Gill > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#9. [E36M3] '95 M3 hard to start - from William
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:10:18 -0400 From: William <bigtank2005@gmail.com> Subject: [E36M3] '95 M3 hard to start Good evening, I have a small bust pesky problem with my 1995 M3. When I am doing a cold start it requires 5 - 7 seconds of cranking to get her to start. Once she is warm she will crank right up, unless she has been sitting for over 15 - 20 minutes. One more thing about cold start, once started, if I get on the gas a little she will sput and studder, until warm. My diagnosis is somewhere in the fuel system? Other facts: Problem started immediately after the installation of my Eurosport TS. The Fuel pump (which includes the entire housing) and injectors were replaced with the installation of this kit. I don't believe the injectors or the pump have anything to do with it. I believe I have upset or disturbed some old and aging fitting, clamp or line during the installation. The wild thing is once she is warm, she runs like a top, throughout the full RPM range. Possibilities: 1. Old and dry rotted fuel lines that run from the tank to the filter? 2. Loose connection at the fuel rail (tightened) (no fuel observed anywhere in the engine compartment) 3. …this is where you guys come in W. Wallace '95 M3 Fayetteville, NC
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#10. Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 - from cteague@cox.net
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:10:50 -0400 From: <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 The current European 4 door (and 2 door) 1 series are both hatchbacks. BMW NA is convinced Americans won't by hatchbacks because of the poor sales of the 318ti. I'd much rather have the 5 door 1 series since it looks nicer, and is more practical. It basically is a wagon (looks very similar to the Mazda 3 5 door). But we get this special "coupe" with a small trunk. Europe get's that also starting in November this year. They get them all, we get the coupe and convertible. Rats. ;-) I'm still thinking of getting the 135i Coupe anyway.... Chris 97 4-Door M3 ---- Tucker Ryals <tuckerryals@yahoo.com> wrote: > What about a 4-door?? > > I'd much rather have a 135i sedan than a 335i sedan. > Not just based on size or weight. The looks of the > 135i coupe are stunning! It may be the first Bangle > car I love. > > Interestingly, I bet the size of a 135i sedan would be > very close to the size of an e36 M3 sedan. > > But everything I've read indicates that the only 1 > series cars to come here will be the coupe and cabrio. > Why is that? Would a 135i sedan kill sales of the 335i > sedan?
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#11. Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:11:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 Boy - that 2 car solution saved you at least $60K over an M5 touring!! Scott --- Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:53:54 -0700 > From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 > > At 01:37 PM 6/28/2007, Tucker Ryals wrote: > >What about a 4-door?? > > What about a 4-door hatch (5-door)? > > Oh well, the less cool cars that they bring here > means the less money > I have to beg my wife for. > > :-) > > Money I have saved so far ... > > E46 M3 Sedan (to be sold when the Touring came out) > E46 M3 Touring > E60 M5 Touring > > And potentially in the future ... > > E90 M3 Sedan > E90 M3 Touring > 135i 5-door > > My current solution to this problem is two cars, a > 1998 M3 sedan and > a 2004 Mazda 6 Wagon V6 5-speed manual. > > Rex > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#12. [E36M3] Hard to start... - from William
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:17:07 -0400 From: William <bigtank2005@gmail.com> Subject: [E36M3] Hard to start... Good evening, I have a small bust pesky problem with my 1995 M3. When I am doing a cold start it requires 5 - 7 seconds of cranking to get her to start. Once she is warm she will crank right up, unless she has been sitting for over 15 - 20 minutes. One more thing about cold start, once started, if I get on the gas a little she will sput and studder, until warm. My diagnosis is somewhere in the fuel system? Other facts: Problem started immediately after the installation of my Eurosport TS. The Fuel pump (which includes the entire housing) and injectors were replaced with the installation of this kit. I don't believe the injectors or the pump have anything to do with it. I believe I have upset or disturbed some old and aging fitting, clamp or line during the installation. The wild thing is once she is warm, she runs like a top, throughout the full RPM range. Possibilities: 1. Old and dry rotted fuel lines that run from the tank to the filter? 2. Loose connection at the fuel rail (tightened) (no fuel observed anywhere in the engine compartment) 3. …this is where you guys come in W. Wallace '95 M3 Fayetteville, NC