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#1. RE: [E36M3] hrm... interesting.... - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 10:59:40 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] hrm... interesting.... I just drove my friend's S2000 the other day (2.2L, tho), I'd take that motor over the 318 motor any day. I wouldn't trade my S52 for it, but I would love to have that shift feel! I bet that swap is much cheaper in Japan. (I hope, anyway!) -Paul -----Original Message----- From: Brian Ruiz [mailto:eurowerke@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 5:38 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] hrm... interesting.... Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:27:26 -0700 From: "Brian Ruiz" <eurowerke@gmail.com> Subject: hrm... interesting.... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7794100180241725508&q=e36&total=2758 &start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7 F20C (S2000 engine) in an E36... Sacrilege? Brian build 8/95 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Shock options - from Matt Bader
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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 12:08:09 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Shock options I have Bilsteins with H&R springs and I like the set up for street use. There's less body roll, more control on uneven or undulating pavement, etc. Car has a bit more bounce, somewhat harsher ride, but definitely tolerable even with low-profile tires. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 Delaware -----Original Message----- From: KC Boyce [mailto:k_boyce@e30eta.com] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:57 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Shock options Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:53:52 -0400 From: "KC Boyce" <k_boyce@e30eta.com> Subject: Shock options All, It's about time for new shocks on the crew cab. However, I'm very torn. I've taken pains (and spent some money) to make sure that the M3 stays original - all replacement/maintenance parts to date have been Original BMW w/ receipts to back it up. However, pricing out a set of Original BMW shocks comes to around $850. For $200 less, I could get a full set of Bilsteins from TMS. I had a good experience with Bilsteins on my E30, and like their lifetime warranty & extended performance vs. having to replace OE shocks again in 80k miles. I've read varying opinions about Bilsteins for the M3 - everything from similar to stock to just a bit firmer to harsh. Obviously, everyone has their own preferences, but I'd appreciate any insight the group may have on my choices. Also, am I being silly in insisting on OE BMW Parts? I feel like BMW really got the E36 M3 right from the factory.not much room for improvement (at least as an all-around car serving primarily as a daily driver!), and have wanted to keep the stock "feel". KC Boyce '97 M3/4 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#3. RE: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 - from Matt Bader
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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 15:24:06 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 I wonder if there are any women on this list?? -----Original Message----- From: Scott M [mailto:smlists@pacbell.net] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 1:37 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:09:53 -0700 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 Sure, the E92 coupe is a better looking design. But I will gladly give up some looks for the smaller size, better handling, superior brakes, and 300-400lb weight savings. Kinda like I would rather date the chick with the average looking face but hot body that is an animal in bed vs. the hot model looking gal with a pleasing but plumper body who just lays there :-) :-) Not to mention the 1 series, like the average looking gal - is cheaper and less high maintenance :-) Always works that way. haha Scott On Jun 28, 2007, at 4:27 PM, Raza Uddin wrote: > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:20:24 -0700 > From: "Raza Uddin" <raza.uddin@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 > > On 6/28/07, Mike VanAmburgh <mvanamburgh@charter.net> wrote: > > > >> I can't believe this new 1-series monstrosity is getting so much >> aesthetic >> praise. Maybe I need eye surgery again but I find it extremely butt >> ugly... >> sedan and hatch variations. > > > > You are not the only one. I'm not moved at all by the 1 series and > its > intentionally petite proportions look very odd to me. I'd much > rather spend > the extra money and get a E92 or E90 335i and have something that > actually > looks nice. > > Drive Safely, > [flame suit]Raza[/flame suit] > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#4. Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 15:54:28 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 In a message dated 7/1/2007 3:38:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mbader@exammaster.com writes: I wonder if there are any women on this list?? Well, I can think of one -- our beloved List Mistress -- Suzy! Now, back to e36M3 topics... Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005 / 2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & Rogue Engineering ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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#5. Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 15:26:00 -0500 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 This list is owned by Suzy Kraft. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2007, at 2:38 PM, "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> wrote: > Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 15:24:06 -0400 > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 > > I wonder if there are any women on this list?? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott M [mailto:smlists@pacbell.net] > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 1:37 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 > > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:09:53 -0700 > From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 > > Sure, the E92 coupe is a better looking design. But I will gladly > give up some looks for the smaller size, better handling, superior > brakes, and 300-400lb weight savings. Kinda like I would rather date > the chick with the average looking face but hot body that is an > animal in bed vs. the hot model looking gal with a pleasing but > plumper body who just lays there :-) :-) > > Not to mention the 1 series, like the average looking gal - is > cheaper and less high maintenance :-) Always works that way. haha > > Scott > > On Jun 28, 2007, at 4:27 PM, Raza Uddin wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:20:24 -0700 >> From: "Raza Uddin" <raza.uddin@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 135 confirmed for '09 >> >> On 6/28/07, Mike VanAmburgh <mvanamburgh@charter.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I can't believe this new 1-series monstrosity is getting so much >>> aesthetic >>> praise. Maybe I need eye surgery again but I find it extremely butt >>> ugly... >>> sedan and hatch variations. >> >> >> >> You are not the only one. I'm not moved at all by the 1 series and >> its >> intentionally petite proportions look very odd to me. I'd much >> rather spend >> the extra money and get a E92 or E90 335i and have something that >> actually >> looks nice. >> >> Drive Safely, >> [flame suit]Raza[/flame suit] >> >> >> ************************************************* >> Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >> >> Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >> Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >> Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >> Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >> Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >> Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com >> >> DIGEST INFORMATION: >> http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >> ************************************************* >> >> > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Shock options - from Dan Malloy
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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 22:41:43 -0700 From: "Dan Malloy" <dfmalloy@cox.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Shock options I replaced my stock units with Bilstein Sports (stock springs) and while the ride is definitely firmer it has not elicited any complaints from my wife so it should be OK. The Bilsteins definitely keep the wheels on the ground under all driving/road conditions and I have an additional benefit of living in the same town as the West Coast Bilstein repair/reconditioning facility - this allowed me to have a lower rear mount bushing replaced for half the cost of a new shock. See http://www.bilstein.com/services.php?PHPSESSID=275d353b6a52807ade9b7b60afae3 387 for more info on services. Dan Malloy 95 M3 Cosmos black/black, Vaders, CD, OBC, 7/94 build Daily driver, 136,000 miles, runs great, uses oil Mostly original except water pump, rotors/Hawk pads, Bilsteins, plugs, belts, battery -----Original Message----- From: KC Boyce [mailto:k_boyce@e30eta.com] Sent: Thursday, 28 June, 2007 08:57 To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Shock options Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:53:52 -0400 From: "KC Boyce" <k_boyce@e30eta.com> Subject: Shock options All, It's about time for new shocks on the crew cab. However, I'm very torn. I've taken pains (and spent some money) to make sure that the M3 stays original - all replacement/maintenance parts to date have been Original BMW w/ receipts to back it up. However, pricing out a set of Original BMW shocks comes to around $850. For $200 less, I could get a full set of Bilsteins from TMS. I had a good experience with Bilsteins on my E30, and like their lifetime warranty & extended performance vs. having to replace OE shocks again in 80k miles. I've read varying opinions about Bilsteins for the M3 - everything from similar to stock to just a bit firmer to harsh. Obviously, everyone has their own preferences, but I'd appreciate any insight the group may have on my choices. Also, am I being silly in insisting on OE BMW Parts? I feel like BMW really got the E36 M3 right from the factory.not much room for improvement (at least as an all-around car serving primarily as a daily driver!), and have wanted to keep the stock "feel". KC Boyce '97 M3/4 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* __________ NOD32 2362 (20070628) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Shock options - from Shelhart2@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:10:32 EDT From: Shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shock options For $1200 you could get the Bilstein PSS9 coil overs from TMS. I installed this setup about 3 months ago and think it was a solid deal for the price. I had the Bilstein and HR setup prior (60k miles on them) and it was a good upgrade. Shel Hart 1995 M3 2002 Boxster S ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Shock options - from Matt Bader
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:40:02 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Shock options Shel: In terms of general performance, how does your M3 stand up against the Boxster S? Matt Bader 98 M3/4 AA Stage II s/c Bilsteins/HR Springs UUC SSK Upgraded clutch and LW Flywheel -----Original Message----- From: Shelhart2@aol.com [mailto:Shelhart2@aol.com] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:18 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shock options Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:10:32 EDT From: Shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shock options For $1200 you could get the Bilstein PSS9 coil overs from TMS. I installed this setup about 3 months ago and think it was a solid deal for the price. I had the Bilstein and HR setup prior (60k miles on them) and it was a good upgrade. Shel Hart 1995 M3 2002 Boxster S ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#9. Rogue Short Shift - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 09:30:08 -0400 From: Jonathan Evans <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: Rogue Short Shift Okay, about once a year for the past seven years I ping the list about the Rogue Engineering short shift kit. I may actually bite the bullet on this one now. I've been waiting for the clutch to implode and it's still holding on after 135k miles. The shifter feels like a wooden spoon in a bowl of Jello. So, how's the installation for a moderate DIY'er? Time is the only skill I have plenty of. It took me 4 months to change the timing belt on my track miata. :) Is there a time/cost benefit to doing the clutch and the shift kit at the same time? I'm afraid the clutch R&R is beyond my wrench monkeying skills and then I'd just have to pay the shop to do both. reference: http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=RE&Category_Code=SSK (is there a list discount?) PS: I will buy a hatchback 1 series with any engine they drop in there. Thanks,Jonathan '95 M3
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Shock options - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:30:32 -0400 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shock options I just recently added TCK double adjustable Koni struts up front to match my DA Koni shocks on the rear.? Even though I dumb-downed my spring rate to 400# (it's my daily driver too), the ride is noticeably more harsh compared to my previous Koni SA's with Eibach Pro-Kit springs.? The ride is firm, a nice firm,?but let's just say -- I'm looking much further ahead on old (a new) PA roads.? ;-)) cheers, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering -----Original Message----- From: Matt Bader <mbader@exammaster.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 8:38 am Subject: RE: [E36M3] Shock options Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:40:02 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Shock options Shel: In terms of general performance, how does your M3 stand up against the Boxster S? Matt Bader 98 M3/4 AA Stage II s/c Bilsteins/HR Springs UUC SSK Upgraded clutch and LW Flywheel -----Original Message----- From: Shelhart2@aol.com [mailto:Shelhart2@aol.com] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:18 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shock options Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:10:32 EDT From: Shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shock options For $1200 you could get the Bilstein PSS9 coil overs from TMS. I installed this setup about 3 months ago and think it was a solid deal for the price. I had the Bilstein and HR setup prior (60k miles on them) and it was a good upgrade. Shel Hart 1995 M3 2002 Boxster S ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.