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#1. RE: [E36M3] Rogue Short Shift - from Roan
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:43:08 -0500 From: "Roan" <low.d@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Rogue Short Shift Not sure about the other ShifterFests, but at the Orlando one we had lunched served on-premise by Hooter girls. That night Ben, Calvin H., my g/f and I hit Pleasure Island only to find that we had decided to go during Gay Day. Memories indeed. Roan. -----Original Message----- From: Carlos Lopez [mailto:clopez98m3@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 09:48 To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rogue Short Shift Small nitpick but I'm pretty sure it was Ben Liaw who dubbed the "bolt bearing" thingie the bitch of a clip or BOAC. Back when we called the short shifters the BL/SS (Ben Liaw Short Shifter) 'round '97 or so which consisted of an M Roadster shift lever with a compound bend in it, Ben would actually fly all over the country to have Shifter Fest parties (yes we we're a bunch of weirdos back then). I took part in Seattle Shifter Fest I but a kid messed up getting Ben there so it was a Ben-less event. Usually hosted at a shop with a hoist, you could get your BL/SS installed for free along with a Red Line fluid change on both your trans and diff (you provided the fluids). Ah the old days... Carlos 98 M3 with a UUC shifter that I don't especially like, probably will replace it with a B&M race one
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Rogue Short Shift - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 15:16:09 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Rogue Short Shift Johnathan, I installed a Rogue SSK/WSR about 2 years ago. It was simple. Even the bitch clip was no biggie for me. When I first went to install it, I looked up where I needed to access and thought, there is no way I can get my hands up in there. But once you get started, it is pretty straight forward. I think it must have taken me about 90 minutes... The improvement was huge. Very smooth and precise. You will ask yourself, what took me so long to do this once you are done. :) Dave DeBuhr Antioch, CA 98 M3/4 -----Original Message----- Okay, about once a year for the past seven years I ping the list about the Rogue Engineering short shift kit. I may actually bite the bullet on this one now. I've been waiting for the clutch to implode and it's still holding on after 135k miles. The shifter feels like a wooden spoon in a bowl of Jello.
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 18:17:24 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) > Seriously, though - I really prefer to run open > passing anywhere with an optional (but not required) > point by. Me too, that's why I run in NASA HPDE4/TT these days - open passing with non-mandatory point-bys. I must admit, it is hard to go back to no passing in the turns when I run with Badger Bimmers, especially when that's where the opportunities to pass mostly ocurr with our lower HP cars (well mine is anyway). Regards Jamie Howton 06 M Roadster 04 645Ci 95 M3 (225 RWHP)
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Shock options - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:37:33 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shock options > Hey Bob, > > What compression and rebound settings are you using on the > street? On the street I ran zero clicks compression and one half > turn from full soft on rebound with 400 lb springs and it rode just > as good as my new Bilsteins with stock springs. Which is a nice > plush ride. :-) > > Rex > > I was under the impression that you shouldn't run the Koni's at their max adjustment either full or soft for long periods as the internal mechanism might get sticky. I'm running 1 click of compression front and rear with 1/2 turn of rebound on the street with 425 / 500 springs and it's quite firm but accecptable.
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 22:47:00 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) On 7/2/07, Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> wrote: > Me too, that's why I run in NASA HPDE4/TT these days - open passing > with non-mandatory point-bys. I must admit, it is hard to go back to > no passing in the turns when I run with Badger Bimmers, especially > when that's where the opportunities to pass mostly ocurr with our > lower HP cars (well mine is anyway). Yup wheel to wheel and no mandatory point bys with zero safety equipment required. Sounds like fun! ;-) Carlos 98 M3 will run in some NASA events this year
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#6. 135 Cont'd - from Michael Michalski
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 00:27:04 -0500 From: "Michael Michalski" <m.michalski@comcast.net> Subject: 135 Cont'd Here is a pretty cool article and some new pictures of the 1 series. http://www.speedtv.com/articles/automotive/newmodels/38464/ Enjoy. Michael Michalski 97 ///M3 Lux. Making room for the 1 series
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#7. RE: [E36M3] 135 Cont'd - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:54:42 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 135 Cont'd I couldn't find more pics. Found plenty of pics of Grid Girls and Women of F1, but no more 1 shots. Interesting tidbit that I hadn't seen elsewhere: "One significant addition for the 135i is an electronically controlled limited-slip differential, something no fast BMW should ever be without." -Paul -----Original Message----- From: Michael Michalski [mailto:m.michalski@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 1:28 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] 135 Cont'd Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 00:27:04 -0500 From: "Michael Michalski" <m.michalski@comcast.net> Subject: 135 Cont'd Here is a pretty cool article and some new pictures of the 1 series. http://www.speedtv.com/articles/automotive/newmodels/38464/ Enjoy. Michael Michalski 97 ///M3 Lux. Making room for the 1 series ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 07:25:40 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) > Yup wheel to wheel and no mandatory point bys with zero safety > equipment required. Sounds like fun! ;-) > > Carlos > 98 M3 will run in some NASA events this year Well it is fun and although the risks are arguably higher than with more restictive passing rules, from my experience that is mitigated to some extent by the spirit of cooperation that exists (at least in the Midwest & Ohio/Indianna regions). Since it isn't wheel to wheel racing (TT competes for lap times within their class) there is no mad rush for the finish line and none of the bumping and questionable driving that you sometimes see during races. Everyone is out there to get a clean lap and set their fastest lap time and everyone seems to work toward that goal. The cars are usually staged with a rolling start under caution with the fastest cars in front. That gets them out to the head of the pack and lets the slower cars get up to speed before they are being passed, it seems to work pretty well at spacing everyone out. Point bys are not required but are almost always given, the passing driver goes off line to pass. The other major distinction I have seen between NASA and some other groups is that they do a pretty good job of qualifying each driver to drive in any group. You have to be a pretty advanced group 3 driver before they allow you to run in group 4/TT and they monitor what goes on on track and we talk about it as a group after every session. They have no problem removing you to a different group or just kicking you out if you cannot cooperate. So while NASA does not mandate a rollcage and 5 point harnesses/fire suppression systems, etc. from my experience it is seldom needed. I have seen far fewer off track excurions in 3 years of driving with NASA (and no car to car contact) than with any other group I ran with in the prior 4 years. Some of the events I drove at prior to NASA starting up in this area are just automotive carnage fests, a veritable wreckers dream. Anyway, all that being said I was at Fall-Line Motorsports (http://www.fall-linemotorsports.com/) yesterday getting a quote for a NASA GTS spec full cage with Nascar style door bars and foot protection. I am scheduled to have it done starting the third week of this month, I feel safer already ;-). Jamie
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 08:34:29 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) On 7/3/07, Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> wrote: > Anyway, all that being said I was at Fall-Line Motorsports > (http://www.fall-linemotorsports.com/) yesterday getting a quote for a > NASA GTS spec full cage with Nascar style door bars and foot > protection. I am scheduled to have it done starting the third week of > this month, I feel safer already ;-). Good deal. When Bimmerforums is up read a thread on Hyperfest, everything you said people don't do was being done there. :-) Car to car contact in HPDE4, dive bombing in braking zones (by an instructor no less), etc. At least they did remove that guy's instructor status. I think someone also mentioned a GTS competitor (M3 4/dr) packed up and left before he got called up to the tower. Like you said, perhaps OH/IN is much better. I've been to one NASA weekend and it surprised me that they didn't acknowledge one car to car incident that messed up at least one car pretty badly. They referred to it as a "no incident" weekend. Umm yeah I have pictures. ;-) Still I enjoyed the event and it was fun, I just cringe when I see transponders and shift lights in cars but not a single piece of safety equipment. Carlos 98 M3
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#10. Re: [E36M3] clutch longevity...shifter replacement - from Marc Plante
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 08:34:42 -0400 From: "Marc Plante" <marcva@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] clutch longevity...shifter replacement Jonathan: If you're waiting for your clutch to go, it might be a while. I suppose the Ms are different than the regular E36s with the additional torque, but if you drive like an adult, you may well get 150+ out of the clutch. I did the clutch in my E36 325 at 150k. It had seen about 30 track days and 50 or so autocross days (with lots of fun runs, I miss the good old days). and the plate itself was probably good for over 200k. Then again, the throwout bearing was going, since I was in the nasty habit of sitting on the clutch pedal at lights. Just do the shifter. Maybe you can scrounge up someone local with moderate skills that can help you. Someone that has done the job once is ideal. I think my second time through took about 15 mins. First time took 45. You'll also need a jack, a pair of stands or ramps and comfort crawling under the car. (it can scare a lot of people). I assume the rogue kit still includes the tool to get the top plastic clip off the shifter, if not, youll need a pair of smallish screwdrivers. If you're not up to the job, a dealership will prolly charge you an hour to do the job. An indy may charge a 1/2 hr if they're fair and decent and know the job. Billing rates vary. Marc Plante E36 M3/4 79k Vienna, VA