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#1. Re: [E36M3] clutch longevity...shifter replacement - from Mark Duckworth
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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:06:46 -0400 From: Mark Duckworth <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] clutch longevity...shifter replacement On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 07:38 -0500, Marc Plante wrote: > Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 08:34:42 -0400 > From: "Marc Plante" <marcva@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] clutch longevity...shifter replacement > > Jonathan: > > If you're waiting for your clutch to go, it might be a while. I suppose the > Ms are different than the regular E36s with the additional torque, but if > you drive like an adult, you may well get 150+ out of the clutch. I did the > clutch in my E36 325 at 150k. It had seen about 30 track days and 50 or so > autocross days (with lots of fun runs, I miss the good old days). and the > plate itself was probably good for over 200k. > > Then again, the throwout bearing was going, since I was in the nasty habit > of sitting on the clutch pedal at lights. > > Just do the shifter. Maybe you can scrounge up someone local with moderate > skills that can help you. Someone that has done the job once is ideal. I > think my second time through took about 15 mins. First time took 45. > > You'll also need a jack, a pair of stands or ramps and comfort crawling > under the car. (it can scare a lot of people). I assume the rogue kit still > includes the tool to get the top plastic clip off the shifter, if not, youll > need a pair of smallish screwdrivers. > > If you're not up to the job, a dealership will prolly charge you an hour to > do the job. An indy may charge a 1/2 hr if they're fair and decent and know > the job. Billing rates vary. Just another datapoint, 185K miles and my engine (head gasket) went before the clutch :-P Thanks, Mark
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) - from docwyte@comcast.net
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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:21:17 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) As with anything it depends on who's out there. I run with NASA in HPDE4/TT and I've had good and bad experiences. Got divebombed by an M coupe as I was exiting a turn at Miller. He'd passed the person behind me, then decided to try to get by me as well. All on the 1st lap with cold tires. That wasn't so happy. However, I've had good experiences here in Colorado, although that might have something to do with the fact that I pretty much know (and have driven quite a bit with) all the 4/TT guys out here. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> > Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 22:47:00 -0400 > From: "Carlos Lopez" > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) > > On 7/2/07, Jamie Howton wrote: > > Me too, that's why I run in NASA HPDE4/TT these days - open passing > > with non-mandatory point-bys. I must admit, it is hard to go back to > > no passing in the turns when I run with Badger Bimmers, especially > > when that's where the opportunities to pass mostly ocurr with our > > lower HP cars (well mine is anyway). > > Yup wheel to wheel and no mandatory point bys with zero safety > equipment required. Sounds like fun! ;-) > > Carlos > 98 M3 will run in some NASA events this year >
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#3. shifter item for sale - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:57:19 -0400 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: shifter item for sale Group, With all this talk about sloppy shifters, I checked my parts bin and found a UUC DSSR (double-shear selector rod) that I installed before purchasing a whole new SSK last fall.??As the UUC website says, this?part "increases the precision and smoothness of the overall shifting operation."?? It did remove most of the slop.? It was in the car for about 4K miles.? They sell for $129 new, so this one?goes for $80 includes shipping.? Will fit all e36M3 after 9/94 production date. cheers, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
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#4. RE: [E36M3] 135 Cont'd - from cteague@cox.net
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 12:12:31 -0400 From: <cteague@cox.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 135 Cont'd That's just the traction control system applying the brakes to the spinning wheel. Works OK on the street, but to go fast on the track/autoX, you turn that off, and then you find out there is no mechanical limited slip. The 335i is the same. I wish there was an optional mechanical limited slip. ;-( Of course, Turner offers one for the 335i, so I assume they will do that for the 135i also (if they aren't already the same) Chris ---- Paul Andrews <emosound@verizon.net> wrote: > I couldn't find more pics. Found plenty of pics of Grid Girls and Women of > F1, but no more 1 shots. > Interesting tidbit that I hadn't seen elsewhere: > "One significant addition for the 135i is an electronically controlled > limited-slip differential, something no fast BMW should ever be without." > > -Paul >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) - from Scott McClung
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) Yes - mine too - under braking or in a turn is about the only place I am getting by unless someone lets off and lets me by. I get very annoyed when a high HP street car gets me on the long straight and then I suck his mirrors the entire rest of the track until I finally find another place by. A CMC car is much lower HP than many street cars running HPDE sessions - mine makes 200 at the wheels and weighs 3200# with me in it. About the only cars I had a power advantage on were the spec E30 BMW 325's - those things are pretty slow!! Scott --- Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> wrote: > > Seriously, though - I really prefer to run open > > passing anywhere with an optional (but not > required) > > point by. > > Me too, that's why I run in NASA HPDE4/TT these days > - open passing > with non-mandatory point-bys. I must admit, it is > hard to go back to > no passing in the turns when I run with Badger > Bimmers, especially > when that's where the opportunities to pass mostly > ocurr with our > lower HP cars (well mine is anyway). > > Regards > > Jamie Howton > 06 M Roadster > 04 645Ci > 95 M3 (225 RWHP) >
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) - from Scott McClung
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:56:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) I was pretty impressed with the level of driving in the group 4 session this weekend too. We had a lot of cars out there - of varying speeds, although pretty much all of the drivers were hustling the cars at a good 80%. The group gets crowded because that is where instructors tend to go out, often with thier students to show them what is possible running full speed out there. I had more than one situation going into a turn 2 wide, and everybody was very good at holding their line and giving each other room. The mix of cars was probably 50/50 street cars and race cars - or at least cars with cages in them, and I would say a good 80% of the cars were running race tires and brakes too. You do have to have a good experience level to handle that group and maintain concentration on your driving while watching mirrors for cars passing you and maintaining general situation awareness. NASA does a pretty good job of regulating who gets into group 4 too. We had no car to car contact all day, and maybe 6-7 spins all weekend. One expired motor in a Honda street car - that guy wasn't too happy!! My personal comfort level is only to run open passing wheel to wheel like that in a full race prepped car - full cage, not just a rear bar - I like my NSACAR style door bars thankyouverymuch. In a pure street car I do not see myself running in group 4. That is just a personal risk management decision. I think the driving is better as a whole in group 4, so that lowers the risk of mistakes, but you are still adding risk with higher speeds and closer car situations with drivers that are not all up to race group levels. So there is some risk - and the speeds are very high in that group. I had no issue blowing past a car through T9 and going into 10 a bit hotter than normal in a full caged race car, even with that wall looming out there, because worse case if I did blow it I am protected and the car isn't worth that much. Would I have made passes like that in a new Z4-M coupe? Not a chance!! BTW - I did spy a dark gray Z4-M coupe out there in group 1 or 2. Scott --- Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 07:25:40 -0500 > From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... > interesting.... ) > > > Yup wheel to wheel and no mandatory point bys with > zero safety > > equipment required. Sounds like fun! ;-) > > > > Carlos > > 98 M3 will run in some NASA events this year > > Well it is fun and although the risks are arguably > higher than with > more restictive passing rules, from my experience > that is mitigated to > some extent by the spirit of cooperation that exists > (at least in the > Midwest & Ohio/Indianna regions). Since it isn't > wheel to wheel > racing (TT competes for lap times within their > class) there is no mad > rush for the finish line and none of the bumping and > questionable > driving that you sometimes see during races. > Everyone is out there to > get a clean lap and set their fastest lap time and > everyone seems to > work toward that goal. The cars are usually staged > with a rolling > start under caution with the fastest cars in front. > That gets them > out to the head of the pack and lets the slower cars > get up to speed > before they are being passed, it seems to work > pretty well at spacing > everyone out. Point bys are not required but are > almost always given, > the passing driver goes off line to pass. The other > major distinction > I have seen between NASA and some other groups is > that they do a > pretty good job of qualifying each driver to drive > in any group. You > have to be a pretty advanced group 3 driver before > they allow you to > run in group 4/TT and they monitor what goes on on > track and we talk > about it as a group after every session. They have > no problem > removing you to a different group or just kicking > you out if you > cannot cooperate. So while NASA does not mandate a > rollcage and 5 > point harnesses/fire suppression systems, etc. from > my experience it > is seldom needed. I have seen far fewer off track > excurions in 3 > years of driving with NASA (and no car to car > contact) than with any > other group I ran with in the prior 4 years. Some > of the events I > drove at prior to NASA starting up in this area are > just automotive > carnage fests, a veritable wreckers dream. > > Anyway, all that being said I was at Fall-Line > Motorsports > (http://www.fall-linemotorsports.com/) yesterday > getting a quote for a > NASA GTS spec full cage with Nascar style door bars > and foot > protection. I am scheduled to have it done starting > the third week of > this month, I feel safer already ;-). > > Jamie > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) - from jeff.conner@yahoo.com
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 10:18:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "jeff.conner@yahoo.com" <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) FWIW, I've found that the more advanced the run-group I'm in, the less I need to worry about passing "faster" cars. Usually, the skill level is to a point where the drivers of cars that should be faster than mine ARE driving faster than me, and those who should be slower than me, are. I only find that I need to work at passing those cars that are close in speed to mine. And that's kind of fun :-). As Jim Bassett puts it, "This is the fun part for me, having to *think* my way past someone." I have to study how they approach corners and how they get out of them, and I find my spot and take it, safely. -jeff ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 10:35:28 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sears Point (was: hrm... interesting.... ) On Jul 3, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Scott McClung wrote: > We had no car to car contact all day, Is this surprising to you? There should never, ever be car-to-car contact in a school group. Ever. - Mark ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing homepage at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar
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#9. Wheel Bearing Grease - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 14:30:22 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Wheel Bearing Grease Folks, Will be changing wheel bearings on my car and wanted to apply a higher temperature (withstanding) wheel bearing grease. Apparently there are many "racing" wheel bearing grease out there. What are my options? I googled and came across Amsoil. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Ahmad
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Wheel Bearing Grease - from Rex Tener
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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:16:37 -0700 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Wheel Bearing Grease At 11:38 AM 7/3/2007, Ahmad Lutfeali wrote: >What are my options? I googled and came across Amsoil. Any other >suggestions? Thanks, I have been using Redline Synthetic CV-2 Grease for most of my bearings (haven't done wheel bearings yet). Rex