E36M3 #5337

Monday, July 23, 2007 17:54:11

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#1. Re: [E36M3] SRS light - from Tom Melton
#2. ABS code - from tim ng
#3. RE: [E36M3] ABS code - from Matt Bader
#4. RE: [E36M3] ABS code - from Jim Bassett
#5. Re: [E36M3] ABS code - from Kent L. Shephard
#6. Re: [E36M3] ABS code - from Jim Bassett
#7. Re: [E36M3] SRS light - from Dave Heckendorf
#8. Re: [E36M3] ABS code - from Kent L. Shephard
#9. Camber Plates - from drevans@fuse.net
#10. Re: [E36M3] Camber Plates - from Jay Hudson
#11. Re: [E36M3] ABS code - from Jim Bassett

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#1. Re: [E36M3] SRS light - from Tom Melton
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:20:26 -0400 From: "Tom Melton" <Tom.Melton@emoryhealthcare.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] SRS light Typically this "long" displayed SRS light that vanishes after 3-5 minutes signifies there is a stored error in the system. Typically it happens when someone powers up the car with the ignition key when some component of the SRS unplugged - oftimes the passenger seat has been removed temporarily. Clearing the SRS codes in most cases will allow the system to return to 100% normal, with normal light display behavior. -Tom >>> Dave Heckendorf <daveheckendorf@gmail.com> 7/23/2007 1:13 PM >>> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:13:19 -0700 From: "Dave Heckendorf" <daveheckendorf@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] SRS light I've got one of the Peake SRS Tools you can borrow in Los Angeles (for up through '99 models)... Though with the light going on and off, I'm not sure that will fix the problem, I would expect ti to stay on if it comes on... Dave

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#2. ABS code - from tim ng
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:21:46 -0400 From: "tim ng" <s14realm3@hotmail.com> Subject: ABS code my ABS light is on and stays on, is there a ABS code reader? Tim Ng BMWCCA # 36497 95 BUZZNM3 dakar yella 94 325i future track car 92 325ic M-Technic pkg 91 M3 garage queen 88 M3/2.5 DM race car ------------------ project 90 535ia ------------------ Pace shadow 26 ft enclosed trailer my web page: http://groups.msn.com/M3stuff/pictures

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#3. RE: [E36M3] ABS code - from Matt Bader
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:50:29 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] ABS code Just the other day I have been getting intermittent ABS and ASC lights coming on simultaneously. Seems to go on for one or two start cycles, and then go off again, etc. Haven't had time to investigate but all systems appear to be working, but I could be wrong about that. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 Delaware -----Original Message----- From: tim ng [mailto:s14realm3@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:24 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] ABS code Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:21:46 -0400 From: "tim ng" <s14realm3@hotmail.com> Subject: ABS code my ABS light is on and stays on, is there a ABS code reader? Tim Ng BMWCCA # 36497 95 BUZZNM3 dakar yella 94 325i future track car 92 325ic M-Technic pkg 91 M3 garage queen 88 M3/2.5 DM race car ------------------ project 90 535ia ------------------ Pace shadow 26 ft enclosed trailer my web page: http://groups.msn.com/M3stuff/pictures ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#4. RE: [E36M3] ABS code - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:00:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] ABS code On Mon, July 23, 2007 12:53 pm, Matt Bader wrote: > Just the other day I have been getting intermittent ABS and ASC lights > coming on simultaneously. Seems to go on for one or two start cycles, and > then go off again, etc. > > Haven't had time to investigate but all systems appear to be working, but > I > could be wrong about that. Brake pedal travel sensor, most likely. My post from the archives (which I know we've discussed here not that long ago :-)): <http://www.bmw-m.net/Digest/Archive_2003_12_digest_3492-3531/digest3531.htm#10> Jim Bassett

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#5. Re: [E36M3] ABS code - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:21:47 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] ABS code That would be it. The archive is slightly wrong. I have large hands and was able to change the sensor w/out removing anything but the sensor itself. You will need a dental pick with a 30-90 deg end. You will feel your way around the bottom of the sensor until you find an opening in the clip with the dental pick. From there you will be able to unseat the clip. Forget about removing hoses and such. It's a five minute job. The part is expensive and a rip. It probably cost BMW about $15-20 to manufacture. Kent On Jul 23, 2007, at 1:03 PM, Jim Bassett wrote: > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:00:23 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] ABS code > > On Mon, July 23, 2007 12:53 pm, Matt Bader wrote: >> Just the other day I have been getting intermittent ABS and ASC >> lights >> coming on simultaneously. Seems to go on for one or two start >> cycles, and >> then go off again, etc. >> >> Haven't had time to investigate but all systems appear to be >> working, but >> I >> could be wrong about that. > > Brake pedal travel sensor, most likely. > > My post from the archives (which I know we've discussed here not > that long > ago :-)): > <http://www.bmw-m.net/Digest/Archive_2003_12_digest_3492-3531/ > digest3531.htm#10> > > Jim Bassett > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#6. Re: [E36M3] ABS code - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:44:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] ABS code On Mon, July 23, 2007 1:33 pm, Kent L. Shephard wrote: > That would be it. > The archive is slightly wrong. How so? It accurately describes what I did to replace the sensor. If by "wrong" you mean "different than what I did", then yeah, I'm sure the are a couple of approaches to replacing the sensor. Sorry I didn't disclaim my original post with "YMMV/Feel free to do it your own way/etc". :-) Jim Bassett

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#7. Re: [E36M3] SRS light - from Dave Heckendorf
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:49:04 -0700 From: "Dave Heckendorf" <daveheckendorf@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] SRS light Yup, but I wouldn't expect it to go out once it has come on... My SRS light has been on for a while because I haven't found the time to change the passenger seat occupancy sensor and my Wife's '99 E46 328i had it on after having body work to the driver's rear door done. Neither went out once they came on (until I tried resetting mine which had it out briefly, and once I reset the one on the Wife's car)... Dave On 7/23/07, Tom Melton <Tom.Melton@emoryhealthcare.org> wrote: > > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:20:26 -0400 > From: "Tom Melton" <Tom.Melton@emoryhealthcare.org> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] SRS light > > Typically this "long" displayed SRS light that vanishes after 3-5 > minutes signifies there is a stored error in the system. Typically it > happens when someone powers up the car with the ignition key when some > component of the SRS unplugged - oftimes the passenger seat has been > removed temporarily. > > Clearing the SRS codes in most cases will allow the system to return to > 100% normal, with normal light display behavior. > > -Tom > > >>> Dave Heckendorf <daveheckendorf@gmail.com> 7/23/2007 1:13 PM >>> > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:13:19 -0700 > From: "Dave Heckendorf" <daveheckendorf@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] SRS light > > I've got one of the Peake SRS Tools you can borrow in Los Angeles (for > up > through '99 models)... Though with the light going on and off, I'm not > sure > that will fix the problem, I would expect ti to stay on if it comes > on... > > Dave > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#8. Re: [E36M3] ABS code - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:45:59 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] ABS code Hi, I should have qualified that. Wrong was not the best terminology. Kent On Jul 23, 2007, at 1:53 PM, Jim Bassett wrote: > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:44:47 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] ABS code > > On Mon, July 23, 2007 1:33 pm, Kent L. Shephard wrote: >> That would be it. >> The archive is slightly wrong. > > How so? It accurately describes what I did to replace the sensor. > > If by "wrong" you mean "different than what I did", then yeah, I'm > sure > the are a couple of approaches to replacing the sensor. > > Sorry I didn't disclaim my original post with "YMMV/Feel free to do it > your own way/etc". > > :-) > > Jim Bassett > **************************************** > > >

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#9. Camber Plates - from drevans@fuse.net
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:37:33 -0400 From: <drevans@fuse.net> Subject: Camber Plates I have been considering getting a set of the Vorshlag camber plates for my 1995 M3. I am to the point that I need some negative camber up front to stop the wear on the outside of my track tires. My question is how acuarate can you get the adjustments between the street and track settings? Also, when you change the settings, how does this affect the caster/toe settings of the front end geometry? Lastly, would I be better off getting a set of 96+ strut hats and swapping sides? The car only sees about 5-6000 miles a year on the street, so that shouldn't affect my street tires too much. TIA Rich Evans

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Camber Plates - from Jay Hudson
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:51:26 -0700 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Camber Plates I can't speak to the Vorshlag plates, I have Ground Control. But, it fairly easy to go beyween street and track settings on the GC plates. I'd imagine they're similar. Get the car on the alignment rack and set it at -2 camber with zero toe. Mark it on the plates. That's your street setting. Now move the camber to -3.5 or whatever you want to use for the track. Mark that setting. Adding the extra camber for your track setting will also give you some toe out which is what you want. Easy deal. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: <drevans@fuse.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: [E36M3] Camber Plates > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:37:33 -0400 > From: <drevans@fuse.net> > Subject: Camber Plates > > I have been considering getting a set of the Vorshlag camber plates for my > 1995 M3. I am to the point that I need some negative camber up front to > stop the wear on the outside of my track tires. My question is how > acuarate can you get the adjustments between the street and track > settings? Also, when you change the settings, how does this affect the > caster/toe settings of the front end geometry? Lastly, would I be better > off getting a set of 96+ strut hats and swapping sides? The car only sees > about 5-6000 miles a year on the street, so that shouldn't affect my > street tires too much. > > TIA > > Rich Evans > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#11. Re: [E36M3] ABS code - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:51:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] ABS code On Mon, July 23, 2007 2:53 pm, Kent L. Shephard wrote: > I should have qualified that. > Wrong was not the best terminology. Gotcha. Probably was me being bit too sensitive - it is Monday after all :-) Jim Bassett - is it Friday yet? :-)

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