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#1. Re: [E36M3] Stock Spring Rates - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:27:45 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stock Spring Rates On 7/24/07, Mpower <mpower@obikwan.com> wrote: > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:02:59 -0700 > From: Mpower <mpower@obikwan.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Stock Spring Rates > > What about using LTW springs vs. plain old M3 springs? > > Any thoughts/opinions on that? Fine for street driving, still too soft for track work. To answer the other question, when you see 6" and 7" and Eibach ERS that is their height. They also have a spring rate number and inner diameter (2.25" or 2.5"). Other springs like H&R or tckline are 60mm I.D. The cost difference in coilovers is mostly found in the dampers used. I went low buck with Koni SA but should've gone Koni DA. If money were no object I'd go with Motons or Ohlins. There are JRZs that are somewhere in between those as well. Lots of choices in coilovers lately, Vorshlag came out with some as well and there's the european kits that may suit you depending on your needs. Carlos. 98 M3
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#2. RE: Stock Spring Rates - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:49:19 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Stock Spring Rates These numbers are for a 95 M3, the 96+ car got slightly stiffer front coil springs. http://www.bmw-m.net/techdata/spring.htm Yes unless you purchased a Ground Control Kit with shorter-reconfigured strut cases. But it may be possible even then. KLB -------------------- 3 -------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:56:13 -0500 From: Bill Sharp <M3@cueframe.us> Subject: Stock Spring Rates Can someone tell me what the spring rates are for the stock e36 M3? Is it possible to get back to the "stock ride" with true coil overs? Thanks, Bill Ft. Worth 2/22/99 Coupe
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#3. Re: Stock Spring Rates - from Chuck Brazeau
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:50:34 -0400 From: Chuck Brazeau <chuckbrazeau@aol.com> Subject: Re: Stock Spring Rates Here's some data that i saved from a post from here or from bimmerforums.com... Spring -> Front Rate -> Rear Rate Stock E36 M3 -> 105 -> 335 LTW E36 M3 -> 138 -> 402 Eibach Pro Kit M3 -> 148 -> 428 Sachs M3 coilovers -> 215 -> 395 H&R 29910 (Sport) -> 200 -> 380 H&R 29910 DTM(Race) -> 345 ->515 H&R Coilover -> 340 -> 380 Dinan -> 150 -> 400 I've had the LTW springs on my M3 and they are a little stiffer than the stock springs, but still very comfortable on the street.? I currently have Eibach Pro Kit springs installed on the car.? The Eibachs are very close in stiffness to the LTW springs, however the Eibachs lower the car about an inch (which is what i wanted) whereas the LTW didn't seem to drop the car at all compared to stock.? The Eibachs are definitely not stiff enough to be Nationally competitive in autocross, but they're a nice compromise for a limited budget street/autox car. I still have that set of LTW springs if anyone is interested in buying them. ;-) Chuck Brazeau http://www.chuckbrazeau.com/ -----Original Message----- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:02:59 -0700 From: Mpower <mpower@obikwan.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Stock Spring Rates What about using LTW springs vs. plain old M3 springs?? Any thoughts/opinions on that? Thanks ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
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#4. RE: Stock Spring Rates - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:55:46 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Stock Spring Rates This offers some detail on the LWT spring but no rate information. I have heard they are slightly stiffer and slightly lower that those offered for the 95 M3 but I have seen no data to support these claims. http://www.bmw-m.net/techdata/spring.htm -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:02:59 -0700 From: Mpower <mpower@obikwan.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Stock Spring Rates What about using LTW springs vs. plain old M3 springs? Any thoughts/opinions on that?
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#5. FS: PFZ Brake Pads (F&R) - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:58:15 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: FS: PFZ Brake Pads (F&R) Group, I have a set of front and rear Performance Friction Z brake pads for E36 M3, with maybe a few hundred miles (darn near new). I sold the car and the pads are sitting in my garage collecting dust. I believe they sell for $190~ new. I will take half of that and will include shipping ($95 to your door). Thanks, Ahmad
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#6. Hard shifting, clutch problem? - from Chris Beckwith
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:47:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Beckwith <rcbokla@yahoo.com> Subject: Hard shifting, clutch problem? Hi all, I think I have a problem with my clutch. Here are the symptoms. It is very difficult to engage any gear after a cold start, especially first. I've noticed that as I push it in to gear the car will slowly move as long as I put pressure on the shifter. That's with the clutch all the way to the floor. As it warms up, the shifting slowly improves. Anyone have any ideas? My mechanic is at a loss. We plan to change the brake/clutch fluid and see if that helps. I know there has been a lot said about notchy shifting but I'm guessing that what I'm describing is something different.. Thanks, Chris ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Stock Spring Rates - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:27:02 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Stock Spring Rates Bill, I have the Ground Control set up with shortend Koni SA shocks and their hybrid CC plates. It uses the Eibach 2.5" spring. Pretty popular kit and works great for an all around entry level track set up. There are tons of spring options for this kit and springs are cheap and pretty easy to swap. So you can play around with rates to suit your requirements. I think that the best all around option is probably the 450f/525r rates for mostly street and occasional track work. My wife drives my car lot so I needed to go a bit softer to suit her. You should call TC Klein, CG, Bimmerworld, etc. They can answer a lot of your questions and get you exactly what you want... Expect to pay $1500-2000 for a coil-over setup that is worthwhile with CC plates. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Bill Sharp [mailto:M3@cueframe.us] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:14 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stock Spring Rates Dave, what you have may be what I'm looking for. Can you give me more detail? Eibach ERS? 6/7" is ride height? I'm at the "I've got a bad rear shock," stage. I'm wondering should I go to coil overs and what would they do for me? I want to be able to adjust the ride to be street like but would like to be able to adjust the suspension so I could do some driver's schools and not plow into the corners braking and turning. It seems there are offerings at the $500, $1,500 and $2,500 levels. What are the differences? Thank you all for your experience. Best, Bill Ft. Worth
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#8. Spring Rate - from Bill Sharp
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:49:40 -0500 From: Bill Sharp <M3@cueframe.us> Subject: Spring Rate Does anyone happen to know the stock spring rates for a '99? Bill Ft. Worth 2/22/99 Coupe
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Hard shifting, clutch problem? - from Rex Tener
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:03:39 -0700 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Hard shifting, clutch problem? At 11:53 AM 7/24/2007, Chris Beckwith wrote: >I think I have a problem with my clutch. Here are the symptoms. It >is very difficult to engage any gear after a cold start, especially >first. I've noticed that as I push it in to gear the car will >slowly move as long as I put pressure on the shifter. That's with >the clutch all the way to the floor. As it warms up, the shifting >slowly improves. Anyone have any ideas? Sounds like the first place to start is bleeding the clutch line. It sounds like you have air in the clutch line (clutch engagment point changing when cold/warm/hot). Rex
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Hard shifting, clutch problem? - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:18:43 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Hard shifting, clutch problem? Hi, Sounds like your clutch is not fully disengaged. "Creep" is what happens when your pressure plate is still grabbing the clutch disk. Air in the lines would cause this type of symptom on any car. I'd bleed first. I'd then check the slave and master cylinders. Kent On Jul 24, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Chris Beckwith wrote: > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:47:07 -0700 (PDT) > From: Chris Beckwith <rcbokla@yahoo.com> > Subject: Hard shifting, clutch problem? > > Hi all, > > I think I have a problem with my clutch. Here are the symptoms. > It is very difficult to engage any gear after a cold start, > especially first. I've noticed that as I push it in to gear the > car will slowly move as long as I put pressure on the shifter. > That's with the clutch all the way to the floor. As it warms up, > the shifting slowly improves. Anyone have any ideas? My mechanic > is at a loss. We plan to change the brake/clutch fluid and see if > that helps. I know there has been a lot said about notchy shifting > but I'm guessing that what I'm describing is something different.. > > Thanks, > Chris > > >