E36M3 #5344

Sunday, July 29, 2007 22:34:21

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Flat spot - from Ivan Petrov
#2. Re: [E36M3] Flat spot - from jon@treehouseracing.com
#3. brake leak - from Brian Ruiz
#4. RE: [E36M3] brake leak - from Paul L Fisher
#5. Re: [E36M3] brake leak - from Brian Ruiz
#6. RE: [E36M3] brake leak - from Paul L Fisher
#7. TC Kline Roll Cage - from Lawrence J. Barbieri
#8. Wheel studs and nuts for sale - from DocWyte
#9. Re: [E36M3] brake leak - from Jamie Howton
#10. RTAB ride characteristics - from Dan Malloy

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Flat spot - from Ivan Petrov
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:29:15 -0700 From: "Ivan Petrov" <crazyinp@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Flat spot You sure you are not hitting the rev. limit? Also those engines have no power there. Ivan -----Original Message----- From: M3 [mailto:M3@cueframe.us] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:04 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Flat spot Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:58:31 -0500 From: M3 <M3@cueframe.us> Subject: Flat spot When I shift quickly from first to second, at 6, 6.5, or 7K the engine lugs or seems to hesitate, die and then pick up again. If I wait and feather an instant between gears, making sure the clutch is fully engaged and then get on it in second gear, it takes right off, and I have trouble holding traction. There's no hesitation at all. It's got plenty of grunt. Is it software or hardware? Has anyone experienced this? Thanks, Bill Ft. Worth 99 M Coupe, 2/22/99 build date ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Flat spot - from jon@treehouseracing.com
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:03:01 -0500 From: <jon@treehouseracing.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Flat spot What year? I bet it's TC. Jon ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi - DM #053 TreehouseRacing.com M50conversion.com 615.333.9118 ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "M3" <M3@cueframe.us> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 3:03 PM Subject: [E36M3] Flat spot > Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:58:31 -0500 > From: M3 <M3@cueframe.us> > Subject: Flat spot > > When I shift quickly from first to second, at 6, 6.5, or 7K the > engine lugs or seems to hesitate, die and then pick up again. > > If I wait and feather an instant between gears, making sure the > clutch is fully engaged and then get on it in second gear, it takes > right off, and I have trouble holding traction. > > There's no hesitation at all. > > It's got plenty of grunt. > > Is it software or hardware? > > Has anyone experienced this? > > Thanks, > > Bill > Ft. Worth > 99 M Coupe, 2/22/99 build date > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#3. brake leak - from Brian Ruiz
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:14:40 -0700 From: "Brian Ruiz" <eurowerke@gmail.com> Subject: brake leak I was departing from a stop light on Friday and saw a quick flicker of an idiot light on the dash. I didn't catch which is was, but it was on the right side of the cluster. It didn't come back, so once I arrived at work, I shut off the car then turned it back to ignition to see all the lights come on. My choices were: parking brake (possibility, I guess) or brake fluid. I checked my brake reservoir, and sure enough, the level was just above minimum. I went out today to move the car onto the driveway and then see if I could find any leaks. Rear wheels, fine. Front wheels, fine. I bent down to look under the front, and sure enough, there was a fresh 3 or 4 drops of blue-tinted translucent fluid that had leaked down onto the ground. It was dripping from the area near the very front of the oil pan right below and on the passenger side of the crank pulley. I have no idea how it could be getting all the way up there from the rear corner of the engine bay where all the lines come from. The ABS pump looked clean and dry, nothing leaking directly from it. Anyone have any ideas where it could be originating from? It's 90 out here today and still a bit hot to jack it up and take a close look, so thought I'd see if there's any BTDTs. Thanks again, Brian build 8/95

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#4. RE: [E36M3] brake leak - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:55:59 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] brake leak Blue would not be brake fluid unless you have put blue brake fluid in. Blue is antifreeze. As a general rule, low brake fluid doesn't necessarily mean a leak. Most of the time, your pads have worn. When you replace the pads, you push the pistons back in and it fills the master cylinder back up. Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red Become a BMW CCA Member! Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Ruiz [mailto:eurowerke@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 5:24 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] brake leak Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:14:40 -0700 From: "Brian Ruiz" <eurowerke@gmail.com> Subject: brake leak I was departing from a stop light on Friday and saw a quick flicker of an idiot light on the dash. I didn't catch which is was, but it was on the right side of the cluster. It didn't come back, so once I arrived at work, I shut off the car then turned it back to ignition to see all the lights come on. My choices were: parking brake (possibility, I guess) or brake fluid. I checked my brake reservoir, and sure enough, the level was just above minimum. I went out today to move the car onto the driveway and then see if I could find any leaks. Rear wheels, fine. Front wheels, fine. I bent down to look under the front, and sure enough, there was a fresh 3 or 4 drops of blue-tinted translucent fluid that had leaked down onto the ground. It was dripping from the area near the very front of the oil pan right below and on the passenger side of the crank pulley. I have no idea how it could be getting all the way up there from the rear corner of the engine bay where all the lines come from. The ABS pump looked clean and dry, nothing leaking directly from it. Anyone have any ideas where it could be originating from? It's 90 out here today and still a bit hot to jack it up and take a close look, so thought I'd see if there's any BTDTs. Thanks again, Brian build 8/95 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 7/28/2007 3:50 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 7/28/2007 3:50 PM

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#5. Re: [E36M3] brake leak - from Brian Ruiz
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:47:57 -0700 From: "Brian Ruiz" <eurowerke@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] brake leak What I obviously neglected to mention is that I just replaced my front pads about 3 months ago, and my rear pads are about 8 or 9 months old. I am also using SuperBlue fluid, which I thought would just be understood by those on the list by my mentioning blue tinted fluid. Thanks for the input. Brian On 7/29/07, Paul L Fisher <bmw@paul-fisher.com> wrote: > > Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:55:59 -0500 > From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] brake leak > > Blue would not be brake fluid unless you have put blue brake fluid in. > Blue > is antifreeze. > > As a general rule, low brake fluid doesn't necessarily mean a leak. Most > of > the time, your pads have worn. When you replace the pads, you push the > pistons back in and it fills the master cylinder back up. > > Paul L Fisher > > 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic > 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red > > Become a BMW CCA Member! > > Elkhorn, WI. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Ruiz [mailto:eurowerke@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 5:24 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] brake leak > > Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:14:40 -0700 > From: "Brian Ruiz" <eurowerke@gmail.com> > Subject: brake leak > > I was departing from a stop light on Friday and saw a quick flicker of an > idiot light on the dash. I didn't catch which is was, but it was on the > right side of the cluster. It didn't come back, so once I arrived at > work, > I shut off the car then turned it back to ignition to see all the lights > come on. My choices were: parking brake (possibility, I guess) or brake > fluid. I checked my brake reservoir, and sure enough, the level was just > above minimum. I went out today to move the car onto the driveway and > then > see if I could find any leaks. Rear wheels, fine. Front wheels, fine. I > bent down to look under the front, and sure enough, there was a fresh 3 or > 4 > drops of blue-tinted translucent fluid that had leaked down onto the > ground. It was dripping from the area near the very front of the oil pan > right below and on the passenger side of the crank pulley. I have no idea > how it could be getting all the way up there from the rear corner of the > engine bay where all the lines come from. The ABS pump looked clean and > dry, nothing leaking directly from it. > > Anyone have any ideas where it could be originating from? It's 90 out > here > today and still a bit hot to jack it up and take a close look, so thought > I'd see if there's any BTDTs. > > Thanks again, > Brian > build 8/95 > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 7/28/2007 > 3:50 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 7/28/2007 > 3:50 PM > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#6. RE: [E36M3] brake leak - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:04:31 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] brake leak I use SuperBlue myself but since you didn’t mention it, I decided not to assume since we all know what that means. Anyhow, the location you are mentioning is by the water pump. I cannot see how brake fluid would get there without being other places as well. Have you looked where the clutch slave cylinder is? Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red HYPERLINK "https://www.bmwcca.org/members/am/template.cfm?section=On_Line_Join&tem plate=/bmwcca/custompages/join/joinsection.cfm&ref_id=342687"Become a BMW CCA Member! Elkhorn, WI. _____ From: Brian Ruiz [mailto:eurowerke@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 6:48 PM To: Paul L Fisher; E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] brake leak What I obviously neglected to mention is that I just replaced my front pads about 3 months ago, and my rear pads are about 8 or 9 months old. I am also using SuperBlue fluid, which I thought would just be understood by those on the list by my mentioning blue tinted fluid. Thanks for the input. Brian On 7/29/07, Paul L Fisher <HYPERLINK "mailto:bmw@paul-fisher.com"bmw@paul-fisher.com> wrote: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:55:59 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <HYPERLINK "mailto:bmw@paul-fisher.com" bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] brake leak Blue would not be brake fluid unless you have put blue brake fluid in. Blue is antifreeze. As a general rule, low brake fluid doesn't necessarily mean a leak. Most of the time, your pads have worn. When you replace the pads, you push the pistons back in and it fills the master cylinder back up. Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red Become a BMW CCA Member! Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Ruiz [mailto:HYPERLINK "mailto:eurowerke@gmail.com"eurowerke@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 5:24 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] brake leak Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:14:40 -0700 From: "Brian Ruiz" <HYPERLINK "mailto:eurowerke@gmail.com"eurowerke@gmail.com> Subject: brake leak I was departing from a stop light on Friday and saw a quick flicker of an idiot light on the dash. I didn't catch which is was, but it was on the right side of the cluster. It didn't come back, so once I arrived at work, I shut off the car then turned it back to ignition to see all the lights come on. My choices were: parking brake (possibility, I guess) or brake fluid. I checked my brake reservoir, and sure enough, the level was just above minimum. I went out today to move the car onto the driveway and then see if I could find any leaks. Rear wheels, fine. Front wheels, fine. I bent down to look under the front, and sure enough, there was a fresh 3 or 4 drops of blue-tinted translucent fluid that had leaked down onto the ground. It was dripping from the area near the very front of the oil pan right below and on the passenger side of the crank pulley. I have no idea how it could be getting all the way up there from the rear corner of the engine bay where all the lines come from. The ABS pump looked clean and dry, nothing leaking directly from it. Anyone have any ideas where it could be originating from? It's 90 out here today and still a bit hot to jack it up and take a close look, so thought I'd see if there's any BTDTs. Thanks again, Brian build 8/95 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 7/28/2007 3:50 PM

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#7. TC Kline Roll Cage - from Lawrence J. Barbieri
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:17:29 -0400 From: "Lawrence J. Barbieri" <larry@logicalconclusions.com> Subject: TC Kline Roll Cage Greetings everyone, I just purchased a used TC Kline full roll cage for my 95 M3. I was just wondering if anyone else had installed one of these and possibly had a copy of the installation directions. I'm sure I can figure it out, but if there's some guidance from the manufacturer, I wouldn't mind having it. Thanks! Larry No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 7/28/2007 3:50 PM

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#8. Wheel studs and nuts for sale - from DocWyte
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:28:35 -0600 From: DocWyte <docwyte@comcast.net> Subject: Wheel studs and nuts for sale I'm in the process of moving and cleaning things out. I've discovered a box of wheel studs and nuts that'll fit M3's and BMW's. They're 1.75" long, so not really long enough to use with spacers, but will work quite nicely as a replacement to the stock wheel bolts. I've got at least one full set of them, looks more like two full sets. Local pickup gets em for a case of good beer. If I gotta ship em, you gotta pay me the equivalent to a 12 pack of good beer and cover shipping costs. :-)

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#9. Re: [E36M3] brake leak - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:04:05 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] brake leak Brian, I agree with Paul in that you would have to have brake fluid sprayed all over the place for it to be dripping down the front of the oilpan. There are no brake lines routed anywhere near there. A leaking coolant pump or t-stat housing OTOH would have blue coolant dripping right where you say it is. Just my $.02. Regards Jamie Howton

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#10. RTAB ride characteristics - from Dan Malloy
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:26:49 -0700 From: "Dan Malloy" <dfmalloy@cox.net> Subject: RTAB ride characteristics Its RTAB time and I'm considering the Powerflex bushings. My friendly local independent mechanic is warning about increased ride harshness. Can anyone who has BTDT comment please? Car is a 95 coupe, 7/94 build with Bilstein Sport shocks. Dan Malloy Mobile 858.245.2412 Work 858.613.0180 Home 858.486.1177 dfmalloy@cox.net

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