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#1. Need PF97 fronts for E36M3 CHEAP - from Andrew Kalman
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:15:09 -0700 From: Andrew Kalman <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: Need PF97 fronts for E36M3 CHEAP Hi All. Does anyone have an unused set of PF97's for an E36M3 they want to get rid of? I have one last set of unused rears, and would like to match them to a set of fronts before moving on to a new pad type & mfgr. Thanks, -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Thanks, Susie - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Thanks, Susie On Mon, July 30, 2007 6:53 am, Patrick Kelly wrote: > I was reminded how great this list is when I searched the Intraweb for > torque settings for oil drain plug/filter canister for the wife's 2007 > Mini > Cooper S (no, I won't be waiting for the "free" change at 15k miles!). > What > a frustrating experience! The Mini Cooper discussion sites all seem > devoted > to discussing colors and picnics and butterflies. I finally gave up and > tightened them by feel. Sheesh. I was going to suggest getting a Bentley manual for it, but at $120 it would only be worth it if you were going to do a lot of your own work on the car, or planned on keeping it for a while. However, while perusing the forum linked to the manual, I found an answer for you (and the torque numbers look awfully familiar :-)): <http://tech.bentleypublishers.com/thread.jspa?threadID=9874&tstart=75> Jim Bassett - can't believe I just answered a Mini question :-) 2nd Place E3 class, 2004 25 Hours of Thunderhill, Crevier Mini
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#3. RE: [E36M3] RTAB ride characteristics - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:24:38 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RTAB ride characteristics We just did RTABS on 3 cars a few weeks ago. The PF bushings went in very easily, and the way I greased them up, I don't expect any noise, and haven't heard anything yet. I greased every poly surface with Valvoline Syn grease, not the tiny packet that comes with the bushings. I did the same with my Miata control arms (24 bushings!) and never heard a peep in 2 years of year-round driving. The RTAB in the M didn't hurt the ride at all, IMO. The tool made the install pretty painless for the DIY'er. I'm glad I bought one now! Paul Andrews 98 M3/4 # 42 STU -----Original Message----- From: david kroth [mailto:david_kroth@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:54 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] RTAB ride characteristics Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:44:07 -0700 (PDT) From: david kroth <david_kroth@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RTAB ride characteristics > VPD makes one and I believe > Bimmerworld will rent you one > if you buy the bushings from them. I did my RTABs a few weeks ago using the Victory tool. It is not *THE* best tool for the job. Years ago when I had my first E36 I borrowed a BMW RTAB tool from either Ben or Brett - can't remember now. That tool was ideal for the job. The Victory tool is adequate, but I can't imaging a professional mechanice ever using it. Hey, I just checked www.victoryproductdesign.com. There is a message on the homepage: "Due to situations beyond our control Victory Product Design will no longer be accepting new orders." Uh, am I looking in the right place? David Kroth david_kroth@yahoo.com
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#4. RE: [E36M3] Value of Low Mileage E36 M3s - from Stiles
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:07:35 -0700 From: "Stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Value of Low Mileage E36 M3s Tossing in another theory. I think the real and perceived reliability and robustness of a used vehicle plays into its value. Take 993 vs 996 as one example. Along similar lines, I'm thinking that the greater simplicity of the e36 when compared to the e46 bodes well for used values staying pretty strong. Perhaps I'm off base on this, but it feels like the e46 might be a bear to maintain as the miles increase. Scott. '97 e36 m3/2 w/91k -----Original Message----- From: Stan Shaw [mailto:Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 9:34 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Value of Low Mileage E36 M3s Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:29:32 -0400 From: "Stan Shaw" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Value of Low Mileage E36 M3s Thanks to all that have (and will) respond. The initial response would lead me to believe that really nice E36M3s with low mileage are close in price to the least expensive E46M3s. Possibly a higher mileage E36M3 could be found for $15k but still be very nice. I find this intriguing as having one as a stock race/track car would mean many parts would be interchangeable and that can be really useful in problem determination or when a quick replacement is needed. I am unlikely to every buy a mint older car, I simply am not a clean freak, so a well maintained daily driver is what is best for me :) Maybe the best deals won't be around until at least late fall :) Regards, Stan Shaw Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 Excell.Net Owner/Operator http://www.Excell.Net/ 928 Owners Club President http://www.928OC.org/ 928Racing.net Team Member http://www.928Racing.net/ "Liberty once lost is lost forever." - John Adams
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Pork Chop Blues - from Benjamin Hirsch
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:17:11 -0700 From: "Benjamin Hirsch" <benjamin.hirsch@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Pork Chop Blues Neil, why didn't you like the JTD? (I have it on my track car) Seconded, get new fender liners, the underpanels/chops do indeed connect to them. -Ben
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Thanks, Susie - from Patrick Kelly
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:05:40 -0400 From: "Patrick Kelly" <pkelly@agincourtcapital.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Thanks, Susie Jim, You're a good man, Charlie Brown. Unfortunately, hers is the ALL-NEW!!! model for '07 (the R56). There's no Bentley yet for it, and nothing out there in the tubes of the internet. 24 hours in a Mini, huh? Cheers, Pat Kelly pkelly@agincourtcapital.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:53 PM > To: Patrick Kelly > Cc: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Thanks, Susie > > On Mon, July 30, 2007 6:53 am, Patrick Kelly wrote: > > I was reminded how great this list is when I searched the Intraweb for > > torque settings for oil drain plug/filter canister for the wife's 2007 > > Mini > > Cooper S (no, I won't be waiting for the "free" change at 15k miles!). > > What > > a frustrating experience! The Mini Cooper discussion sites all seem > > devoted > > to discussing colors and picnics and butterflies. I finally gave up and > > tightened them by feel. Sheesh. > > I was going to suggest getting a Bentley manual for it, but at $120 it > would only be worth it if you were going to do a lot of your own work on > the car, or planned on keeping it for a while. > > However, while perusing the forum linked to the manual, I found an answer > for you (and the torque numbers look awfully familiar :-)): > <http://tech.bentleypublishers.com/thread.jspa?threadID=9874&tstart=75> > > Jim Bassett - can't believe I just answered a Mini question :-) > 2nd Place E3 class, 2004 25 Hours of Thunderhill, Crevier Mini
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Sad news regarding a former List member - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:40:18 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sad news regarding a former List member Hi, Very sorry to hear. I met him a couple of times way back at a couple of CCA events. Kent
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Pork Chop Blues - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:43:22 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pork Chop Blues Hi, I'll qualify this. My car is a daily driver. I bought the JTD (real one) for my car. The shops just suck. I did replace the liners at the same time because they were cheap. Kent On Jul 30, 2007, at 6:53 AM, Patrick Kelly wrote: > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:36:12 -0400 > From: "Patrick Kelly" <pkelly@agincourtcapital.com> > Subject: Pork Chop Blues > > So, I jack to front end up to have a good look at a sagging pork > chop (mmmm, > sagging pork chop.) thinking a push rivet or two has come loose, > and I see > that the entire underpanel is coming off. Many of the anchoring > points are > cracked/broken beyond repair, and since the pork chops are both pretty > chewed up, it's a good time to R&R everything. > > > > Questions: 1) Should I replace the front fender liners as well? > Don't they > also support/tie into the underpanel? 2) I'm inclined to just go > with stock > (and maybe reinforce a few key areas with sandwiched thin aluminum > sheet), > but could go for the JTD underpanel if y'all think it's worth the > extra $100 > or so. Car is daily driver but likes the track. =D > >
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Thanks, Susie - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:49:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Thanks, Susie On Mon, July 30, 2007 11:33 am, Patrick Kelly wrote: > Jim, > You're a good man, Charlie Brown. Unfortunately, hers is the ALL-NEW!!! > model for '07 (the R56). There's no Bentley yet for it, and nothing out > there in the tubes of the internet. Ahh, missed that. But, unless there's a big difference in motors/etc. between '06 and '07, I bet the torque specs are similar :-) > 24 hours in a Mini, huh? Twenty-FIVE :-) My total time in the car was about 5 hours. Shared it with 4 other drivers, including another list member (Hi Jonathan! :-)). Fun stuff (well, except for that pesky fuel pump relay :-)). FYI, first place in class went to an E30 318 driven by a group from Arizona. Jim Bassett
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#10. Re: Pork Chop Blues - from Neil Maller
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:48:11 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Pork Chop Blues on 7/30/07 2:17 PM, Benjamin Hirsch at benjamin.hirsch@gmail.com wrote: > Neil, why didn't you like the JTD? It didn't fit my car terribly well (had to redrill some holes), and it eliminated the sacrificial curb feeler function of the pork chops, leaving that up to the expensive bumper cover itself. Furthermore he pork chops are supposed to serve as water deflectors for the front tires, another function that's done away with. The flat underpanel also eliminates the fairly carefully shaped profile of the stock piece, making me wonder if something is being given up in the process. While a flat undertray can be desirable, that's in conjunction with a proper front splitter. Bust mostly, once I figured out how to retain the stock undertray properly, the need for an alternative simply went away. >(I have it on my track car) For a track car I'd be looking for a front splitter that offers actual aero benefits. In fact I am looking for just that for my track car! The BMW LTW splitter is expensive (and heavy), and the MaxVelocity Evo II hangs down too low/sticks out too much. (And honestly, it's a bit horsey looking.) Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD