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#1. RE: [E36M3] S52 Oil Consumption - from Matt Bader
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Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:19:55 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] S52 Oil Consumption It is interesting that perhaps oil viscosity may make a difference. Thanks again, all, for the input. I really appreciate these lists as I am still new to the BMW world. I finally joined the local chapter of BMWCCA. There's a DE event coming up at Pocono in October, but not sure I can be ready for that, so I have my eyes set on Summit Point for April. My work would definitely not permit me to get into the autox right now, as I often work some week-end hours, but the DE sounds like it would be good place to start in any case. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 Delaware -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA [mailto:Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:19 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] S52 Oil Consumption Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:16:42 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] S52 Oil Consumption Ditto on exactly what Bob confirms although I wait a lil longer between changes, 100K miles now. -----Original Message----- From: Mdriver13@aol.com [mailto:Mdriver13@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 6:28 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] S52 Oil Consumption Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:20:51 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] S52 Oil Consumption In a message dated 9/5/2007 3:58:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mbader@exammaster.com writes: Thanks all for feedback on oil consumption. I will still be monitoring this a bit more closely, but feel a bit relieved. I think the manual states a pretty wide variance for oil consumption. As just another data point, I have 51K miles, and have no noticeable oil consumption between 2,500 mile oil changes using Mobil 1 15w50. For a short time I ran Mobil 1 0w40 and did see some change on the dip stick. Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005 / 2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & Rogue Engineering ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#2. Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil consumtion - from MPower6008@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:36:04 EDT From: MPower6008@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil consumtion Hi: I have a 1996 M3 with about 55 K miles on it I change the oil every 2500 to 3000 miles, Its not a daily driver and spends most of the time in the garage, I have always used MOBIL 1 15W50 with no oil consumption at all, but once I used Castrol syntech and I noticed some oil consumption, almost 1 Qt in 3000 miles, the car has No oil leaks. Once I switched back to MOBIL 1, I didn't see any oil consumption again. I do take the car out for a spin sometimes but don't drive at high RPM often. Switch the oil and you might see a different rate of oil consumption. Regards Henry Avanessian Losangeles 96M3 cosmos black/Modena natur 91 325ic cosmos black /Modena natur 91 M Technik convertible Red/M cloth ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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#3. Re: [E36M3] S52 Oil Consumption - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:49:19 -0400 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] S52 Oil Consumption Absolutely. My car has always consumed a little bit of oil since new, probably on the order of 1 quart per 2500 miles or so, right along manual specs. This is with Mobil 1 15W50. Needed oil more frequently with 10W30. Andrej '97 M3 ~158K Matt Bader wrote: > It is interesting that perhaps oil viscosity may make a difference. > >
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#4. Re: [E36M3] S52 Oil Consumption - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:44:51 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] S52 Oil Consumption On the Mobil 1 5w30 I had oil consumption on the order of 1 quart every 1k or so. Switching to Amsoil 5w40 "European Car Formula" has resulted in a massive decrease in consumption. In fact, on our recent Seatte -> ThunderHill -> Seattle trip the car might have used half a quart. I never had to top up. On the other hand, in the heat at ThunderHill and with two drivers I did have some valve train chatter. Not sure what to do there. On 9/6/07, Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@verizon.net> wrote: > Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:49:19 -0400 > From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] S52 Oil Consumption > > Absolutely. My car has always consumed a little bit of oil since new, > probably on the order of 1 quart per 2500 miles or so, right along > manual specs. This is with Mobil 1 15W50. Needed oil more frequently > with 10W30. > > Andrej > '97 M3 ~158K > > Matt Bader wrote: > > It is interesting that perhaps oil viscosity may make a difference. > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#5. BBS black diamond paint code request - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:23:13 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: BBS black diamond paint code request I have a set of the double spoke 8.5 wheels which I want to get refinished. I really like the black diamond color of the BBS RGR forged wheels. If you are not familiar with this color it's certainly not black at all, not gunmetal with metallic flakes, but deceptively gunmetal in base color, however reflective but nothing close to chrome reflective. (Having seen it in person I really liked it; thanks to Dave Flogaus). Some may describe the color as a dirty, dull chrome, but oddly clean. Could anyone offer advice on how to get the paint code that BBS uses? I realize it may be proprietary and thus very much protected, but also realize there may be similarities with other products available. The wheel shop I used last had a reflective silver powdercoat, mimicking the silver chrome you see on the e46 M3 double spoke wheels. I'd go for that, but would rather the darker black diamond as I'm most likely going to have the rim edge machined to the raw casting/polished/clearcoted, and the contrast would IMO look much better, as well as darker wheels on a hellrot body color. If you have any information or advice, I would certainly appreciate it. Thanks, Patrick 97M3/4 wheely hurting
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#6. RE: [E36M3] suspension wear question - tail wagging dog! - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:41:33 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] suspension wear question - tail wagging dog! Sure, anyone in the area who wants to borrow the RTAB puller is welcome. Over the winter I'm thinking of replacing the subframe bushings with the same tool, since I still get rubbing with the autox tires on the inside of the fender well. There's plenty of clearance at rest. Bob, If you want to do it at my house, or Mark's, let me know and I'll help. Paul Andrews 98 M3/4 # 42 STU -----Original Message----- From: Mark D [mailto:mdlkml@atari-source.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:48 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] suspension wear question - tail wagging dog! Btw, If any of you guys want to come over to my place in Lansdale to work, let me know. The garage will be free after the weekend and I'd love to play with someone else's car for a change. I just got an air compressor and impact wrench (but no metric impact set yet) and I'm eager to meet the rest of you philly area guys. Paul might be up for loaning out the magic tool for a day but I'm not sure ;) I know I told Pat and Paul I'd try an SCCA race but haven't yet :-P Thanks, Mark
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#7. Re: [E36M3] BBS black diamond paint code request - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:48:06 -0400 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] BBS black diamond paint code request Hi Patrick, Yes, I love my BBS RGR wheels too!?? I would give Daryl Robbins a call at Wheel Collision Center (800-292-7467), they can do amazing things to a wheel and you're close being in the Philly area.? I can even take one of my wheels up there and get his first hand opinion on matching the color, if he doesn't already have a diamond finished wheel on site.? I copied Daryl on this email, he might be able to help you right away. Good luck, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & Rogue Engineering -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 3:28 pm Subject: [E36M3] BBS black diamond paint code request Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:23:13 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: BBS black diamond paint code request I have a set of the double spoke 8.5 wheels which I want to get refinished. I really like the black diamond color of the BBS RGR forged wheels. If you are not familiar with this color it's certainly not black at all, not gunmetal with metallic flakes, but deceptively gunmetal in base color, however reflective but nothing close to chrome reflective. (Having seen it in person I really liked it; thanks to Dave Flogaus). Some may describe the color as a dirty, dull chrome, but oddly clean. Could anyone offer advice on how to get the paint code that BBS uses? I realize it may be proprietary and thus very much protected, but also realize there may be similarities with other products available. The wheel shop I used last had a reflective silver powdercoat, mimicking the silver chrome you see on the e46 M3 double spoke wheels. I'd go for that, but would rather the darker black diamond as I'm most likely going to have the rim edge machined to the raw casting/polished/clearcoted, and the contrast would IMO look much better, as well as darker wheels on a hellrot body color. If you have any information or advice, I would certainly appreciate it. Thanks, Patrick 97M3/4 wheely hurting ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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#8. Re: [E36M3] suspension wear question - tail wagging dog! - from Mark D
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Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:41:09 -0400 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] suspension wear question - tail wagging dog! Paul Andrews wrote: > Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:41:33 -0400 > From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] suspension wear question - tail wagging dog! > > Sure, anyone in the area who wants to borrow the RTAB puller is welcome. > Over the winter I'm thinking of replacing the subframe bushings with the > same tool, since I still get rubbing with the autox tires on the inside of > the fender well. There's plenty of clearance at rest. > > Bob, If you want to do it at my house, or Mark's, let me know and I'll help. > > Paul Andrews > 98 M3/4 > # 42 STU > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark D [mailto:mdlkml@atari-source.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:48 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] suspension wear question - tail wagging dog! > > Btw, > > If any of you guys want to come over to my place in Lansdale to work, > let me know. The garage will be free after the weekend and I'd love to > play with someone else's car for a change. I just got an air compressor > and impact wrench (but no metric impact set yet) and I'm eager to meet > the rest of you philly area guys. Paul might be up for loaning out the > magic tool for a day but I'm not sure ;) > > I know I told Pat and Paul I'd try an SCCA race but haven't yet :-P > > Thanks, > Mark > Mmm.. rear subframe bushings over the winter. I like that idea. I'll let you do yours first since I was the head gasket guinea pig in the area :-P Thanks, Mark
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#9. RE: [E36M3] suspension wear question - tail wagging dog! - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:52:18 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] suspension wear question - tail wagging dog! Yes, it's not going to be an easy 1-hour in-n-out like the RTABs. -Paul > Sure, anyone in the area who wants to borrow the RTAB puller is welcome. > Over the winter I'm thinking of replacing the subframe bushings with the > same tool, since I still get rubbing with the autox tires on the inside of > the fender well. There's plenty of clearance at rest. > > Bob, If you want to do it at my house, or Mark's, let me know and I'll help. > > Paul Andrews > 98 M3/4 > # 42 STU > Mmm.. rear subframe bushings over the winter. I like that idea. I'll let you do yours first since I was the head gasket guinea pig in the area :-P Thanks, Mark
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#10. Re: [E36M3] suspension wear question - tail wagging dog! - from Mark D
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Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:03:39 -0400 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] suspension wear question - tail wagging dog! Then again, I was looking over the process and it really doesn't seem that hard to me. The problem for me is getting the car properly supported and then getting the drivetrain out of the car without crushing myself :-P Thanks, Mark Paul Andrews wrote: > Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:52:18 -0400 > From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] suspension wear question - tail wagging dog! > > > Yes, it's not going to be an easy 1-hour in-n-out like the RTABs. > > -Paul > > >> Sure, anyone in the area who wants to borrow the RTAB puller is welcome. >> Over the winter I'm thinking of replacing the subframe bushings with the >> same tool, since I still get rubbing with the autox tires on the inside of >> the fender well. There's plenty of clearance at rest. >> >> Bob, If you want to do it at my house, or Mark's, let me know and I'll >> > help. > >> Paul Andrews >> 98 M3/4 >> # 42 STU >> >> > > Mmm.. rear subframe bushings over the winter. I like that idea. I'll > let you do yours first since I was the head gasket guinea pig in the > area :-P > > Thanks, > Mark > > >