E36M3 #5394

Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:02:09

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#1. Re: [E36M3] OT: 335i - from Raza Uddin
#2. Slightly OT - from Lawrence Barbieri
#3. Shameless x 2 (ABS Computer) - from jbjerke@charter.net
#4. RE: [E36M3] Shameless x 2 (ABS Computer) - from Matt Bader
#5. Re: RS4 (RE: [E36M3] E36 M3/4 vs. E90 335i) - from DocWyte
#6. Re: RS4 (RE: [E36M3] E36 M3/4 vs. E90 335i) - from m3 drvr
#7. Re: RS4 (RE: [E36M3] E36 M3/4 vs. E90 335i) - from DocWyte
#8. WTB: M3/4 5spd - from Jack - Elephant Motorsports
#9. let's do front suspension work too! - from mdriver13@aol.com
#10. RE: 255/40/17 all season tire recommendation - from Goss, Patrick - PA

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#1. Re: [E36M3] OT: 335i - from Raza Uddin
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:08:47 -0700 From: "Raza Uddin" <raza.uddin@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: 335i I've heard that the 335s were pretty marginal on cooling, even for stock trim, in an aggressive environment (i.e track, heavy boosting). Are these cars able to be regularly driven hard without reliability issues? I can only imagine the increase in temps from adding more than 25% more power and neglecting adding any more cooling capacity. Drive Safely, Raza On 9/10/07, Matt Bader <mbader@exammaster.com> wrote: > > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:10:59 -0400 > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] OT: 335i > > I can confirm those dyno numbers as I recently attended a dyno event where > the 335i pulled 276/278. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ahmad Lutfeali [mailto:m3_racer99@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:57 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] OT: 335i > > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:54:07 -0400 > From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> > Subject: OT: 335i > > Road and Track has an article on a Vishnu tuned 335i. > > Stock 335i makes 270whp and 280wtq > > Ready for this? With just an exhaust and standard off the shelf software, > power goes up to 340whp and 400wtq. > > A TBE (turbo back exhaust without cats) on a 335i with a custom tune > should > be "out of control". > > Ahmad > > PS: Dave by the way with the current hp/weight ratio, the 335i should be > an > I Stocker ;) > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#2. Slightly OT - from Lawrence Barbieri
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:20:54 -0400 From: "Lawrence Barbieri" <larry@logicalconclusions.com> Subject: Slightly OT Hi Guys, I'm looking at a 1999 328i as a daily driver. It has no CD changer, but has the hookup for it in the trunk. I have a 6 CD changer in my E36 M3 which never gets used now since the car is mostly a track car these days. Does anyone know if the hookup is the same and the CD changer could be moved to an E46 easily? I'm pretty sure my CD changer is the one that Alpine made for BMW. - Larry

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#3. Shameless x 2 (ABS Computer) - from jbjerke@charter.net
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:43:38 -0400 From: <jbjerke@charter.net> Subject: Shameless x 2 (ABS Computer) I also have one out of a 97 sedan if there's another party looking for one. Jeff ---------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 07:24:49 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] M3 Shameless plug coming I have an ABS computer out of a 96 M3 for sale. If anyone is interested contact me. $250 plus shipping. Marco

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Shameless x 2 (ABS Computer) - from Matt Bader
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:58:02 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Shameless x 2 (ABS Computer) I might be, but not sure it will work in a '98. I need to check my brake pedal sensor first when I can get in there to do it. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 Delaware -----Original Message----- From: jbjerke@charter.net [mailto:jbjerke@charter.net] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 5:52 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Shameless x 2 (ABS Computer) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:43:38 -0400 From: <jbjerke@charter.net> Subject: Shameless x 2 (ABS Computer) I also have one out of a 97 sedan if there's another party looking for one. Jeff ---------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 07:24:49 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] M3 Shameless plug coming I have an ABS computer out of a 96 M3 for sale. If anyone is interested contact me. $250 plus shipping. Marco ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#5. Re: RS4 (RE: [E36M3] E36 M3/4 vs. E90 335i) - from DocWyte
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:09:50 -0600 From: DocWyte <docwyte@comcast.net> Subject: Re: RS4 (RE: [E36M3] E36 M3/4 vs. E90 335i) Ah, but that depreciation is one of the reasons that makes an Audi such a good buy used! Pick one up 3 years old, off lease, low miles, all service done (it's free) and certified by the dealer. You now have a very lightly used 3 year old car with a warranty till 100k miles and another 3-4 years that you've paid 50 cents on the dollar for, or less. I plan on getting a B7 RS4 in 2 years or so from the dealer. It'll have a factory warranty and I'll probably pay $35k for it... ben@rogueengineering.com wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:20:56 -0400 (EDT) > From: ben@rogueengineering.com > Subject: Re: RS4 (RE: [E36M3] E36 M3/4 vs. E90 335i) > > > Those articles comparing similarly powered cars in completely different price ranges are annoying. Wheneven I've been in an Evo8/9, regardless how much power it had (stock to mod), they still FEEL like you're sitting in a $14,000 econo box (with blue Recaro seats, regardless of your exterior color). Then again, comparing the newer B7 RS4 to the new E92 M3 may also be unfair, because of a nearly $10k-$15k price differential. Yet, they do it anyway. > >  > > Better interiors and AWD still make it difficult to justify the American-brand like depreciation rates of an Audi.  Owning an Audi can be a double edged sword. During the warranty period, the car is great. It will go through anything you throw at it. It's even pretty fun at the track. Beat it to your heart's content. > >  > > After the warranty period, run. Run like the wind. There are exceptions, like Josh's B5 S4 variant (2000-2002), but then again, those cars seem to get modded quite often, and owners of those cars know what to except. > >  > > Much could be said for the E39 M5 for maintenance and ownership costs, but in more than 33 months of ownership, I may have less than $1000 of maintenance costs into car (that includes $450 of voluntarily replaced O2 sensors). If anything "major" goes, I do have a contingency plan, with advice passed to me from a former F&I Manager at the local BMW dealer.. Until then, the car is a joy to drive and pleasure to own. > > > Best Regards, > Ben Liaw > Rogue Engineering • 201-444-8150 >

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#6. Re: RS4 (RE: [E36M3] E36 M3/4 vs. E90 335i) - from m3 drvr
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:31:28 -0400 From: "m3 drvr" <m3bro@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: RS4 (RE: [E36M3] E36 M3/4 vs. E90 335i) I have to agree with the Doc...I have purchased a used Audi A6 before and it had the 4 years 50k free maintenance package with CPO. Audi's are unbelievable cars but their maintenance can be a nightmare, especially if it is out of your pocket. I want to test drive this RS4 and the 335xi. Chipping the 335xi might be really nice... Clyde >From: DocWyte <docwyte@comcast.net> >Reply-To: DocWyte <docwyte@comcast.net> >To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >Subject: Re: RS4 (RE: [E36M3] E36 M3/4 vs. E90 335i) >Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:11:54 -0500 > >Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:09:50 -0600 >From: DocWyte <docwyte@comcast.net> >Subject: Re: RS4 (RE: [E36M3] E36 M3/4 vs. E90 335i) > >Ah, but that depreciation is one of the reasons that makes an Audi such a >good buy used! Pick one up 3 years old, off lease, low miles, all service >done (it's free) and certified by the dealer. > >You now have a very lightly used 3 year old car with a warranty till 100k >miles and another 3-4 years that you've paid 50 cents on the dollar for, or >less. > >I plan on getting a B7 RS4 in 2 years or so from the dealer. It'll have a >factory warranty and I'll probably pay $35k for it... > >ben@rogueengineering.com wrote: >>Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:20:56 -0400 (EDT) >>From: ben@rogueengineering.com >>Subject: Re: RS4 (RE: [E36M3] E36 M3/4 vs. E90 335i) >> >> >>Those articles comparing similarly powered cars in completely different >>price ranges are annoying. Wheneven I've been in an Evo8/9, regardless >>how much power it had (stock to mod), they still FEEL like you're sitting >>in a $14,000 econo box (with blue Recaro seats, regardless of your >>exterior color). Then again, comparing the newer B7 RS4 to the new E92 >>M3 may also be unfair, because of a nearly $10k-$15k price differential. >>Yet, they do it anyway. >> >> >> >>Better interiors and AWD still make it difficult to justify the >>American-brand like depreciation rates of an Audi.  Owning an Audi can >>be a double edged sword. During the warranty period, the car is great. >>It will go through anything you throw at it. It's even pretty fun at the >>track. Beat it to your heart's content. >> >> >> >>After the warranty period, run. Run like the wind. There are >>exceptions, like Josh's B5 S4 variant (2000-2002), but then again, those >>cars seem to get modded quite often, and owners of those cars know what to >>except. >> >> >> >>Much could be said for the E39 M5 for maintenance and ownership costs, >>but in more than 33 months of ownership, I may have less than $1000 of >>maintenance costs into car (that includes $450 of voluntarily replaced O2 >>sensors). If anything "major" goes, I do have a contingency plan, with >>advice passed to me from a former F&I Manager at the local BMW dealer.. >>Until then, the car is a joy to drive and pleasure to own. >> >> >>Best Regards, >>Ben Liaw >>Rogue Engineering • 201-444-8150 >> > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > _________________________________________________________________ Share your special parenting moments! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us

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#7. Re: RS4 (RE: [E36M3] E36 M3/4 vs. E90 335i) - from DocWyte
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:43:02 -0600 From: DocWyte <docwyte@comcast.net> Subject: Re: RS4 (RE: [E36M3] E36 M3/4 vs. E90 335i) Another data point on BMW's... I bought my '95 M3 used with 60k miles on it, it came with an aftermarket warranty. In the span of 25k miles, I claimed over $4000 dollars under the warranty. Water pump, fan clutch, vanos unit, timing chain, all 6 coil packs, dme, etc. So in comparison to the Audi's I've owned, the M3 was more of a maintenance hog. Thankfully I had that warranty... m3 drvr wrote: > > I have to agree with the Doc...I have purchased a used Audi A6 before > and it had the 4 years 50k free maintenance package with CPO. Audi's > are unbelievable cars but their maintenance can be a nightmare, > especially if it is out of your pocket. > > I want to test drive this RS4 and the 335xi. Chipping the 335xi might > be really nice... > > Clyde >

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#8. WTB:  M3/4 5spd - from Jack - Elephant Motorsports
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:21:45 -0400 From: "Jack - Elephant Motorsports" <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> Subject: WTB: M3/4 5spd Hey everyone, My neighbor is bimmer shopping (this will be his first) and he's getting pretty antsy as his current DD is a POS to say the least. He's considering most any bimmer accomodating 4 people but he certainly has a hankering for an M3 or other sportier model. So, if you have one for sale, here's the req's: 1. must be a 5spd, no autos 2. no yellow, most any other color should be fine 3. mods don't matter but must be a completely streetable car, no supsension stuff, this will be a DD for him 4. mounted snows additional to the car are a plus 5. 2 or 4 door is fine 6. price range: ~$11k tops Please email me directly if you have something or know of something. Oh, he's located near Detroit in MI and will travel for the right car but not too far..I'd say north/midwest is about it, maybe 5-6 hour range. Thanks! Jack Money #216 DM/GTS2 E30 M3 Elephant Motorsports http://www.elephantmotorsports.com Secure 24/7 online ordering - Thousands of Parts!

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#9. let's do front suspension work too! - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:52:07 -0400 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: let's do front suspension work too! Group, Well since I'm in the process of replacing most if not all of my rear bushings (with RE polyurethane no less), I've decided the front end could use an update too.? Question for the group, are the e30 aluminum control arms worth the price and?does the offset control arm bushing really improve handling that much?? Once again, TIA And can't say in enough, this group rocks!? You also make me spend money -- but for all the right reasons ;-)) cheers, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe -- with old, tired?bushings :-( Philly Region SCCA 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

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#10. RE: 255/40/17 all season tire recommendation - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:02:23 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: 255/40/17 all season tire recommendation I know all-season tire talk on M3s may be a boring subject, but not even a single response? Please remember that helping fellow M3 owners increases your M3's durability factor!!!! Patrick <http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Hydro_final.png> ________________________________ From: Goss, Patrick - PA Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:42 PM To: E36M3 Subject: 255/40 all season tire recommendation Subject would be going on the stock wheels (rear fenders already rolled), can anyone recommend a decent all-season tire? Having run numerous falken azenis/and their ziex all-seasons on various cars over the years I'm inclined to go with the latest ziex 912 for the M3. I'm sure there are better, (and worse), but as they are all-seasons obviously I don't expect more than what is realistic. They are very reasonably priced which is a good thing as it leaves tire money for a real set of summers. Thoughts, alternatives, bewares, 255 fitment issues on 8.5 stock wheel? Patrick 97 M3/4 Still wheely hurting

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