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#1. RE: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sale for 2000 / 1 M5 - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:34:45 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sale for 2000 / 1 M5 I have a 2003 Mercedes C32 AMG for sale. Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic Become a BMW CCA Member! Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Shelhart2@aol.com [mailto:Shelhart2@aol.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 4:49 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sale for 2000 / 1 M5 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:42:25 EDT From: Shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sale for 2000 / 1 M5 Good ideas. The M5 is off the list after much research and all the feedback. I drove the following over the weekend and have narrowed it down to: 2001 CLK 430 2005 330i 2002 540 The audi's look great and a a bargain but depreciate like a rock. The 330 was really a great car and should hold its value. It also has 50k warranty and all maintenacne.. The 430 was very clean , great looking, and a V8. The 540 was "ok" but I think I prefered the 330 all told. The 430 was a strong second. The Boxster S goes on the market today at $25k :) Shel No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 9/16/2007 6:32 PM
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#2. OT: Right Stuff - from David Thomas
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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:14:23 -0700 From: David Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: OT: Right Stuff Any of you ever use the Permatex Right Stuff that uses the gun instead of the 'cheese wiz' style can? I noticed that Amazon had a really good price on the gun ($2) and the cartridges ($6 ea) so I picked a few up. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HBNV8U/002-4101005-9572844 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HBGHCW/002-4101005-9572844 Just curious if any of you have used this version of the 'right stuff' and if its comparable to the 'cheese wiz'... Dave
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#3. RE: [E36M3] OT: Right Stuff - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:29:16 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] OT: Right Stuff I use it. Works fine. Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic Become a BMW CCA Member! Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: David Thomas [mailto:dave@sasdatalink.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:19 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] OT: Right Stuff Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:14:23 -0700 From: David Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: OT: Right Stuff Any of you ever use the Permatex Right Stuff that uses the gun instead of the 'cheese wiz' style can? I noticed that Amazon had a really good price on the gun ($2) and the cartridges ($6 ea) so I picked a few up. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HBNV8U/002-4101005-9572844 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HBGHCW/002-4101005-9572844 Just curious if any of you have used this version of the 'right stuff' and if its comparable to the 'cheese wiz'... Dave ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 9/16/2007 6:32 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 9/16/2007 6:32 PM
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#4. Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sale for 2000 / 1 M5 - from Grant Fairweather
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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:35:53 -0500 From: "Grant Fairweather" <grantfairweather@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sale for 2000 / 1 M5 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> >I have similar needs with 2 older kids (pre-teens) and a job in >sales. I have been driving my Nissan Titan pick-up way too much and >almost never driving my '69 Camaro, so I am thinking of selling it >and getting something more practical. >On my short list are: >335i >M3 (E36 sedan or E46 - back seat not 100% required for me, but it is >a major plus) >S4 Avant (only because the wagon form factor is so useful for me as >an avid cyclist and active drummer / keyboardist hauling gear around) >C32 AMG (although lack of manual trans is killing it for me...) >E39 M5 is on the longer *maybe* list. I owned a 2000 and dumped it >when the CPO ran out. >I was scared of the repair cost risk, and still am to some degree - >although probably less so now that I have the truck I would only end >up logging about 10K miles / year on the "fun car", instead of 15-18K >that I used to do. If your interested in a 98 M3 sedan (Silver/Black, 83 k miles), I just might be parting with mine. An E39 M5 was on my short list, but have since backed-away due to potential high repair costs and related downtime. C55 AMG's are on my short list now. I'm too committed with activities to track or auto-x my car, so the move to an automatic wont kill me. With the new C-class '08's debuting right now, the older '05 and 06's C55's (still under warranty) are at an attractive price point. Grant 98 M3/4 Chicago Far-Northern 'burbs
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#5. Carfax anyone? - from Lawrence J. Barbieri
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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:41:31 -0400 From: "Lawrence J. Barbieri" <larry@logicalconclusions.com> Subject: Carfax anyone? Hello everyone, If someone has an active Carfax account and wouldn't mind running a VIN I would appreciate it. WBAAM5346YKG18296 It's a 2000 328i that I'm looking to buy as a daily driver. The M3 is too much of a track car now to street drive it and the old E30 is gettin' kinda tired. Thanks! Larry No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 9/16/2007 6:32 PM
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#6. problem 1 - instability under hard braking - from Azik [Hotmail]
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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:29:23 +0200 From: "Azik [Hotmail]" <azik@hotmail.com> Subject: problem 1 - instability under hard braking Hi Group, I've been on Nurburgring in August and didn't like the behaviour of my car under heavy braking. I have never tracked it before and in normal autobahn driving never had a chance to test it. So on the Nurburgring due to elevations/turns and as I drive hell a lot faster and brake much more violently I was afraid of loosing the car as the rear goes left right and I had to catch it before the corner. once in the corner the car is neutral to oversteery. I had more pressure in rear tyres than front so I lowered rears and made it almost like fronts. That did help a bit to lessen oversteer but still problem with braking. A friend of mine from m-forum.de community drove the car around the track after that and he was feeling the same. (He drives E46 M3 with AST suspension and michelin semi slicks and is very fast in nurburgring - nobody could overtake us during the session) So as we approached the biker he had to brake in the corner as the biker decelerated and he lost a car for the moment (rear went away) so we touched the barrier - it did look not that bad as it felt - with rear fender and wheel slightly scratched. Anyway he felt no difference in cars behaviour and we continued. I felt no difference as well as I drove 250 miles back home. So I went to the alignment and he couldn't set one of the parameters in the rear suspension for half degree, I am not sure I understood which one. It supposed to be -2.00 degrees but I have -1.47 deg right and -1.27 deg left. I tried to test the car on public roads and didn't feel that problem but that might be due to the fact that it is very dangerous to do so, so I have to wait for next track session. The car has standart suspension, I beleive its similar to US models but I feel that the rear shocks are a bit too soft compared to fronts. I will be checking shocks on the stand. Have anyone got that problem before? Azar, '97 528iA, '98 M3 3.2 Coupe Euro 321 HP (oOO\(||||)(||||)/OOo) /|OO|(||||)(||||)|OO|\ Celle, Germany
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#7. Problem2 - sound from rear suspension - from Azik [Hotmail]
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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:33:17 +0200 From: "Azik [Hotmail]" <azik@hotmail.com> Subject: Problem2 - sound from rear suspension Hello Group, Just recently i noticed high frequency taking noise like "tyk-tyk-tyk-tyk..." when driving on smooth roads over 30mph or on bad surface on any speed. seemls like its not corner/acceleration/braking dependent as I don't hear that (or may be my exhaust is too loud) The sound is like something is loose in the trank but I checked it - no loose detail. and its louder with rear seats fold. My mechanic said that these are rear shock mounts. Thanks in advance Azar, '97 528iA, '98 M3 3.2 Coupe Euro 321 HP (oOO\(||||)(||||)/OOo) /|OO|(||||)(||||)|OO|\ Celle, Germany
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Problem2 - sound from rear suspension - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:06:36 -0400 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Problem2 - sound from rear suspension Hi Azik, Could be.? Over here in North America we replace the rear shock mounts with aftermarket stronger mounts.? If you have not done this, it's time.? RSMs sold my Rogue, JTD, GC are?your best bet.? It could be the shocks as well. cheers, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering -----Original Message----- From: Azik [Hotmail] <azik@hotmail.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 4:38 am Subject: [E36M3] Problem2 - sound from rear suspension Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:33:17 +0200? From: "Azik [Hotmail]" <azik@hotmail.com>? Subject: Problem2 - sound from rear suspension? ? Hello Group,? ? Just recently i noticed high frequency taking noise like "tyk-tyk-tyk-tyk..." when driving on smooth roads over 30mph or on bad surface on any speed. seemls like its not corner/acceleration/braking dependent as I don't hear that (or may be my exhaust is too loud)? The sound is like something is loose in the trank but I checked it - no loose detail. and its louder with rear seats fold. My mechanic said that these are rear shock mounts.? Thanks in advance? ? Azar,? '97 528iA, '98 M3 3.2 Coupe Euro 321 HP? (oOO\(||||)(||||)/OOo) /|OO|(||||)(||||)|OO|\? Celle, Germany?? ? ? ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Problem2 - sound from rear suspension - from Mark D
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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:26:26 -0400 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Problem2 - sound from rear suspension Agreed, And just to be specific you want mounts that have a reinforcement plate that goes on the top side of the shock mount. Mine tore through... Expensive... Now I have new mount plates, ground control street and track mounts with reinforcements and couldn't be happier. Thanks, Mark mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:06:36 -0400 > From: mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Problem2 - sound from rear suspension > > > Hi Azik, > > > > Could be.? Over here in North America we replace the rear shock mounts with aftermarket stronger mounts.? If you have not done this, it's time.? RSMs sold my Rogue, JTD, GC are?your best bet.? It could be the shocks as well. > > cheers, > > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe > Philly Region SCCA > 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion > Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Azik [Hotmail] <azik@hotmail.com> > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 4:38 am > Subject: [E36M3] Problem2 - sound from rear suspension > > > Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:33:17 +0200? > From: "Azik [Hotmail]" <azik@hotmail.com>? > Subject: Problem2 - sound from rear suspension? > ? > Hello Group,? > ? > Just recently i noticed high frequency taking noise like "tyk-tyk-tyk-tyk..." when driving on smooth roads over 30mph or on bad surface on any speed. seemls like its not corner/acceleration/braking dependent as I don't hear that (or may be my exhaust is too loud)? > The sound is like something is loose in the trank but I checked it - no loose detail. and its louder with rear seats fold. My mechanic said that these are rear shock mounts.? > Thanks in advance? > ? > Azar,? > '97 528iA, '98 M3 3.2 Coupe Euro 321 HP? > (oOO\(||||)(||||)/OOo) /|OO|(||||)(||||)|OO|\? > Celle, Germany?? > ? > ? >
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#10. RE: Difficult to shift into 1st - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:41:41 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Difficult to shift into 1st Similar to this? http://www.bmwpugetsound.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=35487 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:21:56 -0400 From: Peter Fry <PeterFry@aol.com> Subject: Difficult to shift into 1st M3 pilots- I've recently (last week or so) been having difficulty selecting 1st gear from neutral while stopped. Going into 2nd (from neutral) is only slightly easier, and then there's less resistance going from 2nd to 1st. Selecting 1st while still rolling is not a problem (like approaching a stopsign for a brief, token stop). The car is a 99 with just under 99k on it. It's had a Rogue SSK and a adjustable clutch stop for about the last 8k. Pretty sure I had the clutch stop adjusted right (to where I could easily select any gear w/ engine off and clutch in). As a result of the subj problem, I've adjusted the clutch stop all the way down. Now I've got a much longer clutch stroke, but I'm not sure it made it any easier to select 1st from a stop. I can always get it onto gear, but it really feels like I'm forcing it. The only other change in the past months was a move from Colorado (7500' and dry) to South Carolina (200' and quite damp). And the car sat for a month after the move- but this shifting problem wasn't evident in the first week of driving after the long rest. So I'm worried. Did I burn the 1st gear synchros with a poorly adjusted clutch stop? Has anyone else had this problem? Help! ___ Peter Fry
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#11. Re: [E36M3] problem 1 - instability under hard braking - from Walter J
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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:44:51 -0400 From: "Walter J" <walter.gator@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] problem 1 - instability under hard braking From the sound of both of your posts... its time to refurbish the suspension. Especially if you are driving in anger on a race track. The "tail-happiness" under braking is likely your rear control arm bushings going toe-out. Replace them and check the rear trailing arm for bends (since you could not align the car properly). If this is all factory stuff, when one rubber item goes its time to do them all. I'd replace the rear shock mounts and shocks, front control arms, tie-rods, bushings and struts. I would also replace the motor, transmission mounts and guibo while the car is up in the air. Check the exhaust hangers at the rear muffler for dry rot - they are a source of noise just before it falls off ;) -- Walter