E36M3 #5417

Monday, September 24, 2007 08:59:39

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#1. Re: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sale for 2000 / 1 M5 - from Scott M
#2. Re: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sold - bought 330CI - from Scott M
#3. Re: [E36M3] Should I??? (Thinking of selling my street car - Sedan) - from Scott M
#4. RE: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sold - bought 330CI - from Matt Bader
#5. RE: [E36M3] Should I??? (Thinking of selling my street car - Sedan) - from Matt Bader
#6. RE: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sold - bought 330CI - from Chester Wong
#7. '95 M3 Replacement Battery - from Daniel Lowe
#8. Re: [E36M3] Should I??? (Thinking of selling my street car - Sedan) - from Carey Probst
#9. Re: [E36M3] '95 M3 Replacement Battery - from Jason Knight
#10. Re: [E36M3] 6 speed and 3.38 - from Gary

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#1. Re: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sale for 2000 / 1 M5 - from Scott M
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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:34:21 -0700 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sale for 2000 / 1 M5 Not seen the track. About 90% city driving by a woman who is always in a hurry. You do the math!! Scott On Sep 22, 2007, at 10:28 PM, Reid Conti wrote: > Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:24:29 -0700 > From: "Reid Conti" <reid@conti.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sale for 2000 / 1 M5 > > Not bashing, but is 70k miles with "only" a couple sets of brakes > considered a good thing? I'm assuming if it's an A/T wife's car, it > probably hasn't seen the track. My 95 M3 made it to 62k before the > pad wear sensor came on, and my 2000 M Coupe is at 94k and I'm not > sure if they've ever been done -- but they're getting down there. > >> Agree - we have one too, although it is an AT (ugh) - >> wife's car. Great little car tho. Over 70K miles and >> it has never had a single problem and only eaten a >> couple sets of brakes, which are dirt cheap. >> >> Scott > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#2. Re: [E36M3] OT:  Boxster S sold - bought 330CI - from Scott M
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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:38:27 -0700 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sold - bought 330CI Very good point - I had a Z06 for awhile, and that car was way overkill for the street. Keep the go pedal mashed down for just a few seconds and you are breaking every speed limit in the country. Seriously tempting fate and risking jail time driving that car anywhere near it's limits on the streets. I know what you mean about the E36 - the balance is very good for a street car. It isn't slow by any means, but doesn't have crazy power that will only serve to get you in trouble on the street. I felt much the same way about the RX8 btw. Scott On Sep 23, 2007, at 5:38 AM, Dave Hogg wrote: > Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:39:07 -0400 > From: "Dave Hogg" <dhogg1@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sold - bought 330CI > > The 330i is a great choice. The new 335i with Xede piggyback > processor is > putting out about 385 HP and 400+ lb-ft at crazy low rpm's. That > all sounds > great on paper (electrons?), but I can tell you that for the street > it's > massive overkill. The E36 M3 was more fun to drive on a daily basis, > because you can have some fun with it. It doesn't just instantly > hit 80+ > mph. I miss it for that. The 330 is a great compromise for the > street. > You can throw it around a little and still not get yourself thrown > in jail! > > > > Dave Hogg > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Should I??? (Thinking of selling my street car - Sedan) - from Scott M
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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:46:14 -0700 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Should I??? (Thinking of selling my street car - Sedan) Protege5 wagon w/ a 5-speed comes to mind. FWD and no power, but very good handling cars, and it is ~400lbs lighter than a E36 M3 too. On a side note, if you put a full cage in the track car, I would seriously not drive it on the street anymore. Unless you are very short, those tubes are going to be very dangerous in an accident if you are not wearing a helmet (which I assume you don't wear on the street). For street cars I prefer a 4-point roll bar and maybe a 6- point if you are really concerned about door impact. I think that is safe enough for the risk you generally take running in an HPDE session. Race session is another thing - if you want to do that for real, you need a full cage, strip out the interior, add a fire system, and then your daily driver becomes the truck you need to tow it to the track. That is where I am at right now, and none too thrilled about it. I am considering swapping the race car for a nice street sports car / sedan that can take some track duty. Scott On Sep 23, 2007, at 8:58 PM, Jeff Conner wrote: > Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:56:02 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> > Subject: Should I??? (Thinking of selling my street car - Sedan) > > So, > > I'm sick of not being able to fit anything of significant size in > my car, it drinks gas like a frat boy drinks beer on Friday > night...the driver has a heavy foot...and I can't really justify > (ethically) driving it anywhere near it's limits on the street. I > get much more fun and experience out of flogging the snot out of > (or at least my version of flogging) the track car - 95 coupe. > > I think it's time to move on to something else, but what? > > I don't have any money to spend, really, and I'd even like to get > some from a sale/purchase to put a full cage in the track car. I've > already committed to having the head redone (including valve job) > recently - not cheap - and had some new rear suspension bite replaced. > > I'm having a difficult time giving up the Marque, and I could get a > 325i Sedan (E36) for dirt cheap, comparatively, and a 328 for soil > cheap, but neither of those really solves the issue that I have > with stuffing things into the car. I've been tempted by Subaru, > they make lots of wagons. Heeelllllllllp! Does anyone have any > recent experience with a $5-10k car (95-02) that is even remotely > fun to drive, and far more utilitarian than my M3 sedan? > > Thanks in advance, > -jeff > S50 trackdog > S52 sedan (not long for the garage?) > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities > +for+kids&cs=bz > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#4. RE: [E36M3] OT:  Boxster S sold - bought 330CI - from Matt Bader
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:04:12 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sold - bought 330CI The issue of too much speed on the street is legitimate, particularly where things are congested, like the East Coast. But, I do generally find that more powerful cars, particularly if they have good torque, are easier to drive. So, even though I may be driving a car that goes 160, it is still nice to drive at more reasonable speeds because I can deal with traffic situations more easily. Cars get bogged down on the freeway because they don't have the power to move through openings in traffic, etc. They get stuck in the fast lane behind a slow driver, and you know the story. I see it all the time. With a powerful car, you can cut through traffic, take advantage of opportunities that slower cars cannot, and still keep things reasonably legal. I test drove the RX-8 and didn't like it from perspective that it was too low in the torque department. It was a fairly short test drive so that was just my preliminary impression. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 New BMWCCA Member -----Original Message----- From: Scott M [mailto:smlists@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:09 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sold - bought 330CI Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:38:27 -0700 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sold - bought 330CI Very good point - I had a Z06 for awhile, and that car was way overkill for the street. Keep the go pedal mashed down for just a few seconds and you are breaking every speed limit in the country. Seriously tempting fate and risking jail time driving that car anywhere near it's limits on the streets. I know what you mean about the E36 - the balance is very good for a street car. It isn't slow by any means, but doesn't have crazy power that will only serve to get you in trouble on the street. I felt much the same way about the RX8 btw. Scott On Sep 23, 2007, at 5:38 AM, Dave Hogg wrote: > Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:39:07 -0400 > From: "Dave Hogg" <dhogg1@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sold - bought 330CI > > The 330i is a great choice. The new 335i with Xede piggyback > processor is > putting out about 385 HP and 400+ lb-ft at crazy low rpm's. That > all sounds > great on paper (electrons?), but I can tell you that for the street > it's > massive overkill. The E36 M3 was more fun to drive on a daily basis, > because you can have some fun with it. It doesn't just instantly > hit 80+ > mph. I miss it for that. The 330 is a great compromise for the > street. > You can throw it around a little and still not get yourself thrown > in jail! > > > > Dave Hogg > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#5. RE: [E36M3] Should I??? (Thinking of selling my street car - Sedan) - from Matt Bader
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:04:12 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Should I??? (Thinking of selling my street car - Sedan) My Mazda Protégé fits that bill nicely, but its not a BMW! -----Original Message----- From: David Thomas [mailto:dave@sasdatalink.com] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:29 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Should I??? (Thinking of selling my street car - Sedan) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:27:05 -0700 From: David Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Should I??? (Thinking of selling my street car - Sedan) On Sunday 23 September 2007 8:58:39 pm Jeff Conner wrote: > Does anyone have any recent experience with a $5-10k car > (95-02) that is even remotely fun to drive, and far more utilitarian than > my M3 sedan? 318ti? Dave ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#6. RE: [E36M3] OT:  Boxster S sold - bought 330CI - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:25:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] OT: Boxster S sold - bought 330CI Not to mention that it drinks gas and consumes oil like crazy! =) Chester --- Matt Bader <mbader@exammaster.com> wrote: > I test drove the RX-8 and didn't like it from perspective that it was too > low in the torque department. It was a fairly short test drive so that was > just my preliminary impression.

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#7. '95 M3 Replacement Battery - from Daniel Lowe
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:04:44 -0400 From: "Daniel Lowe" <blackjackbimmer@gmail.com> Subject: '95 M3 Replacement Battery I need to replace the battery in my car. Called Interstate but they aren't showing a replacement battery. They say they could probably come close if they saw the battery. Anyone know which model Interstate replaces the OEM battery or someplace else that would carry them in stock? I really don't want to pay the dealer premium on the battery. Regards, Dan

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Should I??? (Thinking of selling my street car - Sedan) - from Carey Probst
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:15:38 -0400 From: Carey Probst <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Should I??? (Thinking of selling my street car - Sedan) Well you could take my approach. Add a Da'Lan hitch and get a small covered trailer for the big stuff. I have a hitch on both my M3 and 325 and use it regularly, plus it is a real convenience when going to the track. I bought it way back when I had a CJ-7 and trust me, the M3 is spacious compared to luggage room in a real Jeep. I've used it to haul 50" tvs to our bar, plywood, just about anything you can think of within reason. Why spend a ton of $$$ on another car and pay the insurance when for under a grand you can get a nice trailer/hitch combination and only use it when you really need it. Carey Jeff Conner wrote: > Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:56:02 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> > Subject: Should I??? (Thinking of selling my street car - Sedan) > > So, > > I'm sick of not being able to fit anything of significant size in my car, it drinks gas like a frat boy drinks beer on Friday night...the driver has a heavy foot...and I can't really justify (ethically) driving it anywhere near it's limits on the street. I get much more fun and experience out of flogging the snot out of (or at least my version of flogging) the track car - 95 coupe. > > I think it's time to move on to something else, but what? > > I don't have any money to spend, really, and I'd even like to get some from a sale/purchase to put a full cage in the track car. I've already committed to having the head redone (including valve job) recently - not cheap - and had some new rear suspension bite replaced. > > I'm having a difficult time giving up the Marque, and I could get a 325i Sedan (E36) for dirt cheap, comparatively, and a 328 for soil cheap, but neither of those really solves the issue that I have with stuffing things into the car. I've been tempted by Subaru, they make lots of wagons. Heeelllllllllp! Does anyone have any recent experience with a $5-10k car (95-02) that is even remotely fun to drive, and far more utilitarian than my M3 sedan? > > Thanks in advance, > -jeff > S50 trackdog > S52 sedan (not long for the garage?) > > > > -- Carey Probst '99M3 daily driver '86 325 track toy, cammed, chipped, swayed A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

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#9. Re: [E36M3] '95 M3 Replacement Battery - from Jason Knight
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:54:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] '95 M3 Replacement Battery Here's a search that should yield the info you need: http://www.google..com/search?hl=en&q=interstate+battery+site%3Abmw-m.net&btnG=Google+Search My battery was going south last month, and I couldn't easily find an interstate battery locally (like within two phone calls) so I bought a stock unit from the dealer. I think it was ~$135. Jason ----- Original Message ---- From: Daniel Lowe <blackjackbimmer@gmail.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:08:41 AM Subject: [E36M3] '95 M3 Replacement Battery Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:04:44 -0400 From: "Daniel Lowe" <blackjackbimmer@gmail.com> Subject: '95 M3 Replacement Battery I need to replace the battery in my car. Called Interstate but they aren't showing a replacement battery. They say they could probably come close if they saw the battery. Anyone know which model Interstate replaces the OEM battery or someplace else that would carry them in stock? I really don't want to pay the dealer premium on the battery. Regards, Dan ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#10. Re: [E36M3] 6 speed and 3.38 - from Gary
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:50:15 -0500 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 6 speed and 3.38 Depends. I got mine with the shift linkage, tranny support, and driveshaft for 2600 almost two years ago. It's really nice having the overdrive! Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 6:48 PM Subject: RE: [E36M3] 6 speed and 3.38 > Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:39:13 -0400 > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] 6 speed and 3.38 > > I think I am getting sold on the idea of a six speed with a 3.38. That > would make 5th very nice between 50 and 70 or 75, and then 6th for > cruising. > > What does a used six speed run? > > Matt Bader > 98 M3/4 > New BMWCCA Member > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mdriver13@aol.com [mailto:Mdriver13@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:49 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 6 speed and 3.38 > > Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:45:12 EDT > From: Mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 6 speed and 3.38 > > > In a message dated 9/23/2007 12:09:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > probikeguy@probikeusa.com writes: > > Nothing like dropping down into sixth gear at 80+ mph > and the motor turning over around 3200rpm instead of close to 4k... > > And people go "ooohh a six speed....nice..." > > > yep, yep... > > In the not to distant future (re: retirement in less than 3 years), I plan > to > 'expand' my autox territory. So long distant cruising at 3200 vs. 4000 > rpms > > would be welcome, indeed. You hear that, Ben! ;-)) > > Of course, a trailer would be nice, but that ain't happening. > > cheers, > > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 > coupe > Philly Region SCCA > 2005 / 2006 Philly Region BSP Champion > Sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & Rogue Engineering > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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