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#1. FS: 98 M3/4/5 - from Duncan Burke
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 06:24:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Burke <pureone55@yahoo.com> Subject: FS: 98 M3/4/5 Hello all, I've casually advertised this car for sale, unfortunately I do need to let it go. Getting the racecar to the track is taking precedent now that its almost done its time for a truck and trailer. 98 M3/4/5 Techno/Dove 125k HK/heated seats/fold down seats. All maintenance is up to date. At one point a CPO car, I'm either the 3rd or 4th owner. Recent Insp II, serviced at VSR. Located in southeastern CT. Asking $10,500 The story is here: http://web.mac.com/tduncanburke/iWeb/Site/For%20Sale.html Thanks, Duncan Burke 90 M3 track 98 M3/4/5 Swiss Army Knife 98 M3 race 05 MCS runner ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
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#2. RE: [E36M3] help me calculate the cost of "finishing" my m3 - from Vikas.Sinha@zf.com
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:57:22 -0400 From: <Vikas.Sinha@zf.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] help me calculate the cost of "finishing" my m3 Scott, I think you hit on the key issue in your next-to-last sentence. Obviously, $$$-wise, you will end up way, way ahead keeping the M3 vs. a P-car, even considering paying someone else to work on the car. Hassle-wise, it sounds like the M3 is not that big a problem, since it's your second car and you don't need it to get to work. So it all comes down to preference: which car would you love more? At that point, I think logic and reason get thrown out the window and emotion does the deciding. Personally, if I had the wherewithal, I'd go for a Cayman or a 997 over an M3 as a second car. However, as an only car -- which the M3 is for me -- I think the E36 M3/4 is at the absolute apex of the luxury-amenity-utility-simplicity-weight-speed curves, and I won't get rid of mine for many thousands of years. Vik 97 M3/4 -----Original Message----- > From: Scott [mailto:stiles_s@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:39 PM > Subject: RE: [E36M3] help me calculate the cost of "finishing" my m3 > > I've driven lots of potential replacements recently and I agree w/you > that most of them have a tough time comparing to a well sorted e36 m3. > New gti: fail (fwd) > 335i: fail (heavy) > Mx5: fail (close, though) > C6 vette: fail (also very close) > New M3: I'm just not that into you -- not sure why... > Boxster s: pass. Loved it. > 997: pass. Ditto. > > I know from experience that a new Porsche can be big $$ depreciation- > wise. I owned a 2003 911 for 2.5yrs (bought new) and it depreciated > 20k (and blew a gearbox under warranty) during that time. That could > fund a *whale* of a lot of M3 maintenance. In fact, it would be kind > of fun to think about what I could do to the M3 w/$20k. Hmmm...
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#3. Chattering AC? - from Robert Exconde - 99E36M3
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:11:21 -0500 From: "Robert Exconde - 99E36M3" <99e36m3@exconde.com> Subject: Chattering AC? Hello, Kindof curious ... I have a Lightweight flywheel and I'm used to the chattering then the chattering stops when I put the clutch in. AFAIK, normal. I noticed also when I turn the AC off the chattering goes away, or severely reduced. Or is the chattering coming from my ac unit, and the sound is similar to that of the LW flywheel? Failing AC? Robert 174K 99M3 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 9/25/2007 8:02 AM
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Chattering AC? - from Mark D
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:20:11 -0400 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Chattering AC? Robert Exconde - 99E36M3 wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:11:21 -0500 > From: "Robert Exconde - 99E36M3" <99e36m3@exconde.com> > Subject: Chattering AC? > > Hello, > > Kindof curious ... I have a Lightweight flywheel and I'm used to the > chattering then the chattering stops when I put the clutch in. AFAIK, > normal. > > I noticed also when I turn the AC off the chattering goes away, or severely > reduced. Or is the chattering coming from my ac unit, and the sound is > similar to that of the LW flywheel? Failing AC? > > Robert > 174K 99M3 > Robert, The A/C on my 188K 96 has been chattering for years. It's a failing clutch I assume but I don't worry about it. It's not like it's that hard to flush the a/c system if the compress implodes. Thanks, Mark
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Chattering AC? - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:27:05 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Chattering AC? The load from AC reduces engine speed slightly. Lower engine speed makes lightweight flywheel chatter worse. Kent On Sep 26, 2007, at 7:18 AM, Robert Exconde - 99E36M3 wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:11:21 -0500 > From: "Robert Exconde - 99E36M3" <99e36m3@exconde.com> > Subject: Chattering AC? > > Hello, > > Kindof curious ... I have a Lightweight flywheel and I'm used to the > chattering then the chattering stops when I put the clutch in. AFAIK, > normal. > > I noticed also when I turn the AC off the chattering goes away, or > severely > reduced. Or is the chattering coming from my ac unit, and the sound is > similar to that of the LW flywheel? Failing AC? > > Robert > 174K 99M3 > >
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#6. Re: What acts like blown head gasket, but isn't? - from Jon Siccardi - Treehouse
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:37:55 -0500 From: "Jon Siccardi - Treehouse" <shop@treehouseracing.com> Subject: Re: What acts like blown head gasket, but isn't? It's a bad head most likely. Cracked and welded up heads almost never fix the problem. The Gunk in the valve cover / cap is coolant getting into the oil. An easy and reliable test - gunk that keeps building up on the bottom of the cap is water/coolant getting into the oil. This in itself is a dangerous condition, it severely cripples the oiling system, foamy oil thru the oil pump and water/coolant that turns to steam when it hits the hot parts practically washes the oil away. The more it's driven the more damage will be done. You may not have a large quantity getting into the oil, but any is bad, and it will only increase over time as the crack worsens. I have a 2.5M50 on the floor with a bad bottom end because of coolant in the oil. Does the car spit white exhaust every time it's started when it's cold? if so, that's pretty much it - burning coolant. Some burns and some steam passes the rings(with gasoline) into the crankcase. Not sure it's worth wasting time with all this Peter. Put a known good head on it and just be done. Jon (Yes, I still have a head if you so choose.) _________________________ Treehouse Enterprises, Inc. 2832 Logan St Suite F Nashville, TN 37211 615-333-9118 www.TreehouseRacing.com _________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:48 AM Subject: [E36M3] What acts like blown head gasket, but isn't? > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:43:19 -0700 > From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> > Subject: What acts like blown head gasket, but isn't? > > I need help diagnosing a problem (or problems) with my 98 M3/4. Several > months ago, the head developed a crack in the #3 plug well. I tore the > engine down and had the head welded up. After putting things back > together, > the engine ran fine for a few weeks, except for having a rough idle. When > putting the head back on, I also replaced the radiator, the main rad > hoses, > thermostat, and the expansion tank. > > After a few weeks, I had a problem with the car overheating twice. It > never > did it badly...I was watching the temp gauge closely, and never let it get > very far above the midline. After swapping the original thermostat back > in, > the overheating problem went away. > > At roughly the same time, I began having problems. They have grown > slightly > worse over the last 1K miles: > > - Loosing coolant. Sometimes it will need an inch in the expansion tank > every day. Sometimes less. > - Cooling system is significantly pressurized even after sitting > overnight. > - A tiny amount of oil in the expansion tank. Just a light haze of oil. No > big drops or emulsion. > - More white exhaust when the car is cold than I recall from before the > problems started. > - Sometime the car is very hard to start...doesn't want to catch. I need > to > give it a lot of extra gas to keep it running until things clear out in a > few seconds. > - Some thick wet gunk on the underside of the oil filler cap. > - Still have the rough idle > - multiple CEL (misfire on #6). > > Once the car warms up, power is good. I see no evidence of serious coolant > contamination in the oil when I check the dipstick. > > I talked with a few people, and we all came to the conclusion that either > the head had failed again, or the headgasket had failed. > > Last weekend we pulled the motor apart again. We found: > > - the oil (M1 15w50, ~2500mi on it) was dark and had a distinct fuel odor, > but otherwise looked fine. > - the headgasket looked great > - the head was inspected and pressure tested. No issues found. > - the valve cover had some caked on milkshake muck (but not everywhere) as > did the rigid breather hose. > - the plugs and valves are whitish (see pics linked below). Burned > coolant? > Running lean? > - the hose clamp on the boot leading into the throttle body was not tight, > although the boot itself felt snug > - the small coolant hose that comes off the middle of the intake side of > the > head was leaking a bit where it connected to the head > - the small coolant hose that comes off the bottom of the throttle body > (outermost) was leaking a bit where it connected to the throttle body > > I don't think those coolant leaks I saw were enough to account for the > volume of coolant I was continuously replacing. > > We're stumped. What could cause the coolant system pressurization, coolant > loss, hard starts, rough idle, etc, that isn't a blown head gasket or > failed > head? Multiple unrelated issues? > > Please help! > > http://picasaweb.google.com/peterloron/M3Head > > -Pete > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Chattering AC? - from Jon Siccardi - Treehouse
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:41:37 -0500 From: "Jon Siccardi - Treehouse" <shop@treehouseracing.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Chattering AC? The chatter is from the LTW flywheel, and when the a/c kicks on, it worsens significantly due to load and rpm change. if it is all but gone when you depress the clutch, I wouldn't worry about it. It's common on all flavors of E36 with LTW flywheels, even the ones that "don't chatter". hahahaha Jon _________________________ Treehouse Enterprises, Inc. 2832 Logan St Suite F Nashville, TN 37211 615-333-9118 www.TreehouseRacing.com _________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Exconde - 99E36M3" <99e36m3@exconde.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:18 AM Subject: [E36M3] Chattering AC? > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:11:21 -0500 > From: "Robert Exconde - 99E36M3" <99e36m3@exconde.com> > Subject: Chattering AC? > > Hello, > > Kindof curious ... I have a Lightweight flywheel and I'm used to the > chattering then the chattering stops when I put the clutch in. AFAIK, > normal. > > I noticed also when I turn the AC off the chattering goes away, or > severely > reduced. Or is the chattering coming from my ac unit, and the sound is > similar to that of the LW flywheel? Failing AC? > > Robert > 174K 99M3 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: > 9/25/2007 > 8:02 AM > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Re: Battery/Alternator - from Shane Kleinpeter
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:41:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Battery/Alternator Mike, Thanks for your thoughts. The radio is indeed stock. When I bought the car from the dealer it had two aftermarket amps and a big sub in the back. In chasing this problem I uninstalled all that stuff...all to find no change. I had installed some VDO gauges at some point, but that was after the trouble started (I wanted to be able to see voltage). I'm not sure if it's possible that they made things worse but i suppose I could disconnect the power wire to be sure. As for the suggestion that I check the trunk wiring...that was repaired about two years ago when the trunk lock stopped working. Shane --- Mike Frank <mfrank28@insightbb.com> wrote: > Hi Shane, > > I think you've already received a lot of good > feedback from others, so I'll > try to be brief. My initial thought was battery, > but it sounds like you're > chasing a slow power draw (possibly a charging > issue, but the alternator is > new, right?). FWIW, my 97 M3 has been on winter > vacation since I bought it > new, and I've never had any dead batteries after > extended periods of > non-use. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Chattering AC? - from marty
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:54:17 -0400 From: marty <mfraiser@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Chattering AC? tranny chatter with a LW flywheel usually increases if you turn the AC on as the idle speed drops a bit. The DME should crank the idle up a bit to compensate for AC load but it'll still chatter more. If you rev it up some or push the clutch in with AC on does the chatter go away? marty Robert Exconde - 99E36M3 wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:11:21 -0500 > From: "Robert Exconde - 99E36M3" <99e36m3@exconde.com> > Subject: Chattering AC? > > Hello, > > Kindof curious ... I have a Lightweight flywheel and I'm used to the > chattering then the chattering stops when I put the clutch in. AFAIK, > normal. > > I noticed also when I turn the AC off the chattering goes away, or severely > reduced. Or is the chattering coming from my ac unit, and the sound is > similar to that of the LW flywheel? Failing AC? > > Robert > 174K 99M3 >
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Chattering AC? - from Matt Bader
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:31:37 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Chattering AC? I have a lightweight flywheel, and this behavior is exactly what has been described. Changes in engine speed resulting from the extra load of the A/C. I haven't gotten around to trying a different tranny fluid mix to cut down on the chatter, but that will be soon. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 New BMWCCA Member -----Original Message----- From: marty [mailto:mfraiser@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:59 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Chattering AC? Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:54:17 -0400 From: marty <mfraiser@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Chattering AC? tranny chatter with a LW flywheel usually increases if you turn the AC on as the idle speed drops a bit. The DME should crank the idle up a bit to compensate for AC load but it'll still chatter more. If you rev it up some or push the clutch in with AC on does the chatter go away? marty Robert Exconde - 99E36M3 wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:11:21 -0500 > From: "Robert Exconde - 99E36M3" <99e36m3@exconde.com> > Subject: Chattering AC? > > Hello, > > Kindof curious ... I have a Lightweight flywheel and I'm used to the > chattering then the chattering stops when I put the clutch in. AFAIK, > normal. > > I noticed also when I turn the AC off the chattering goes away, or severely > reduced. Or is the chattering coming from my ac unit, and the sound is > similar to that of the LW flywheel? Failing AC? > > Robert > 174K 99M3 > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************