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#1. Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs - from kjk
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: kjk <quierom5@yahoo.com> Subject: Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs Graeme wrote: "Mandatory M3 content: Please report back how you get on selling your car for $15k. Edmunds and KBB are stating $9-$12k for excellent condition '97 Coupe's." You know //M cars. Pay now or pay later. I am paying later on my recent purchase of a '95 M3. When all is said and done I will have spent over $15k to have a car I should have nearly had for the original purchase price (although it will have a fresh head). I might not pay quite $15k for that car but he is in the right ballpark. Kevin '95 Avus/Dove '91 M5 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
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#2. Re: [E36M3] slave cylinder - from Benjamin Hirsch
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:25:49 -0700 From: "Benjamin Hirsch" <benjamin.hirsch@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] slave cylinder Can't answer all of the questions, but when I bleed my brake system (and clutch), I set my pressure bleeder to 20 PSI. (9 does sound too low). 30 is too high (usually for the pressure bleeder I believe, if not something else). -Ben On 10/2/07, Brian Ruiz <eurowerke@gmail.com> wrote: > > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 03:05:19 -0700 > From: "Brian Ruiz" <eurowerke@gmail.com> > Subject: slave cylinder > > Good evening everyone, > > I just replaced my slave cylinder tonight, and had a couple small > questions. After an initial bleed with the pressure bleeder, the Bentley > said to press and release the clutch pedal slowly about 10 times. Well, I > did that, but instead of pushing slowly, it popped to the floor like it > was > magnetized. I gasped "crap!" but then realized it was probably just a > bunch of air still in the cylinder. I guess I just figured it would still > be at least slightly stiff. I unbolted the cylinder again and started > doing > the hand bleeding procedure that the Bentley then calls for, by pressing > in > the piston and opening the bleeder, then closing and releasing the piston > slowly. That seemed to work, and after a few runs of that, I decided to > check to see if the pedal was getting stiffer. I pushed on it with my > hand, > then heard a somewhat loud pop noise, and figured the piston had shot out > or > something and there would be a whale of a mess underneath the car. Well, > no > such problems, to my surprise. I did notice however, that the metal plate > seal on the end of the cylinder was a slight bit deformed in a way it > hadn't > been initially. I figure I probably killed the unit and it will probably > start leaking again on me in about 2 months, but it seemed fine for the > other couple hours I still had the cylinder unbolted. I bent the seal > back > flat as best I could, hoping for the best. Anyone know for sure that I > killed it? :-P > > Another question: I did a (probably) weak 11 psi for the initial > bleed-out. > Was that too low? Bentley says not to exceed 29 (!) psi, but I for some > reason recall seeing not to exceed 12psi on the Motive instructions. What > bleeding pressure is recommended? > > On the piston tip, I also used a dab of silicon grease instead of moly > grease. I think I have some moly grease but I didn't realize moly was > required until after I had bolted the unit back up to the transmission and > checked back on the Bentley again. I also figured that since the piston > tip > cap was plastic, a silicon grease would be advisable. Should I remove the > unit and replace the grease with moly instead? > > Thanks in advance! > > Brian > build 8/95 > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > -- Thanks, Ben
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#3. Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) - from Scott
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:52:36 -0700 From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) Do you guys think I'm off target on price? Asking on bimmerforums would probably net me "dude, you're *way* off. I just picked up a 328 w/M badges and a rebuilt title for $5k" It isn't a show car, but mechanically it's in great shape with tons of new parts over the past couple years. The PO took good care of the car, but didn't "invest" if you know what I mean. On the plus side it has all orig body panels w/orig paint on them. It has a few scratches and dings, but from 10' it's perfect. The front and rear bumper skins have had a little love, but again they fit and look great. Interior wise, the only wear is the outboard bolsters on the driver's seat. No rips. Everything in the car works: obc, radio, sunroof, etc. Shortcut w/better pics http://www.bmwpugetsound.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=35614 Can I get some more thoughts on pricing? If this turns out to be a $11k car I'm keeping the damn thing :) Thanks much, Scott. -----Original Message----- From: kjk [mailto:quierom5@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:49 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: kjk <quierom5@yahoo.com> Subject: Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs Graeme wrote: "Mandatory M3 content: Please report back how you get on selling your car for $15k. Edmunds and KBB are stating $9-$12k for excellent condition '97 Coupe's." You know //M cars. Pay now or pay later. I am paying later on my recent purchase of a '95 M3. When all is said and done I will have spent over $15k to have a car I should have nearly had for the original purchase price (although it will have a fresh head). I might not pay quite $15k for that car but he is in the right ballpark. Kevin '95 Avus/Dove '91 M5
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs - from shelhart2@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:41:20 -0400 From: shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs If anyone has an "excellent condition" 1997 with 90k miles for $10k I'd buy it.? Having driven my "new to me" 2005 330CI on a couple lengthy trips already, I'd say my 1995 M3 is still a joy to drive and gracefully shows its' age.? By the way, the 330CI is a?really well balanced car considering economy, performance, looks, and family.? I'm not sure what is on the market that could compete at $10k for what the E36 M3 offers.? He should be able to get $12,500 for his 92k mile E36 within a month or so.? I agree with Kevin that with 90k on the clock a quick refresh of power steering hoses, radiator, shocks, various AC components, etc. will set you back $2,500 quickly (especially if done at the dealer).? Try?for $13k, settle for $12k and sell your rims for $1k or keep it :) Shel 1995 M3 2005 330CI????? -----Original Message----- From: kjk <quierom5@yahoo.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:48 am Subject: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: kjk <quierom5@yahoo.com> Subject: Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs Graeme wrote: "Mandatory M3 content: Please report back how you get on selling your car for $15k. Edmunds and KBB are stating $9-$12k for excellent condition '97 Coupe's." You know //M cars. Pay now or pay later. I am paying later on my recent purchase of a '95 M3. When all is said and done I will have spent over $15k to have a car I should have nearly had for the original purchase price (although it will have a fresh head). I might not pay quite $15k for that car but he is in the right ballpark. Kevin '95 Avus/Dove '91 M5 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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#5. Re: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and - from Rex Tener
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:54:41 -0700 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) At 08:58 AM 10/2/2007, Scott wrote: >Can I get some more thoughts on pricing? If this turns out to be a $11k car >I'm keeping the damn thing :) Book is worthless on M's unless you want to use it to get a seller's price down. :-) Regional variation can be as much as $5K, which is about the difference I paid for my used E36 M3/4/5sp in Las Vegas over what I would have had to pay for it in the San Francisco Bay Area at the beginning of the year. Put a price on it after researching prices in your region via craigslist, autotrader.com, and used car dealers. If it doesn't sell, then the price is too high. Drop it $2K at a time until it does sell or you decide to keep it. :-) Rex "Bought three M3's and sold two of them (should have kept my 1995 M3)"
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs - from Mark D
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:06:24 -0400 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs kjk wrote: > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:40:13 -0700 (PDT) > From: kjk <quierom5@yahoo.com> > Subject: Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs > > Graeme wrote: > > "Mandatory M3 content: Please report back how you get > on selling your car for $15k. Edmunds and KBB are > stating $9-$12k for excellent condition '97 Coupe's." > > You know //M cars. Pay now or pay later. I am paying > later on my recent purchase of a '95 M3. When all is > said and done I will have spent over $15k to have a > car I should have nearly had for the original purchase > price (although it will have a fresh head). I might > not pay quite $15k for that car but he is in the right > ballpark. > Still if you consider the interest on a new car loan (unless you're loaded or a disciplined saver) versus the fact the M3 usually lets you do things in $3K-$5K burps, you have a chance to save the money and spend it when you want to rather than once a month regardless with your credit at risk. So there you go, IMHO especially since we all agree the M3 handles a lot more lightly than most all the new cars, the E36 M3 is a better deal financially, even if you're anal retentive and replace the seats and want it pristine. Your ONLY risk is insurance total loss. I don't know about you guys but I have a feeling I'd get screwed even with documentation of maintenance and cost. Drive safe... My opinion on insurance companies and their inability to do their job well is for another day. Thanks, Mark
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#7. Re: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) - from Scott McClung
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:50:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) I think the price is reasonable. If I were in the market for an M3 coupe - I would strongly consider yours and be willing to pay in the neighborhood of $14-15K for it. Scott --- Scott <stiles_s@hotmail.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:52:36 -0700 > From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> > Subject: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my > '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) > > Do you guys think I'm off target on price? Asking on > bimmerforums would > probably net me "dude, you're *way* off. I just > picked up a 328 w/M badges > and a rebuilt title for $5k" > > It isn't a show car, but mechanically it's in great > shape with tons of new > parts over the past couple years. The PO took good > care of the car, but > didn't "invest" if you know what I mean. On the plus > side it has all orig > body panels w/orig paint on them. It has a few > scratches and dings, but from > 10' it's perfect. The front and rear bumper skins > have had a little love, > but again they fit and look great. > > Interior wise, the only wear is the outboard > bolsters on the driver's seat. > No rips. > > Everything in the car works: obc, radio, sunroof, > etc. > > Shortcut w/better pics > http://www.bmwpugetsound.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=35614 > > Can I get some more thoughts on pricing? If this > turns out to be a $11k car > I'm keeping the damn thing :) > > Thanks much, > Scott. > > -----Original Message----- > From: kjk [mailto:quierom5@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:49 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs > > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:40:13 -0700 (PDT) > From: kjk <quierom5@yahoo.com> > Subject: Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs > > Graeme wrote: > > "Mandatory M3 content: Please report back how you > get > on selling your car for $15k. Edmunds and KBB are > stating $9-$12k for excellent condition '97 > Coupe's." > > You know //M cars. Pay now or pay later. I am paying > later on my recent purchase of a '95 M3. When all is > said and done I will have spent over $15k to have a > car I should have nearly had for the original > purchase > price (although it will have a fresh head). I might > not pay quite $15k for that car but he is in the > right > ballpark. > > Kevin > '95 Avus/Dove > '91 M5 > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#8. RE: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) - from Scott
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:00:45 -0700 From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) Thanks all for the feedback on this. Sounds like I'm a bit high on the asking price, but not totally delusional. One of the challenges is educating the potential buyers about the real value of the mechanical maintenance that has gone on w/the car over the past couple years. The "75k checklist" is effectively complete on this car, and wasn't cheap. I paid ~16k for the car a couple years ago. I think I overpaid a bit, but really valued the one-ish owner history (previous owner bought it from the dealer in '98 after the sales mgr drove it for a year) and the original paint and interior. My wild swag is I've dumped 3-4k in shop cost into the car and probably another 2-3k in parts for the work I did myself (a ton of it). The shop cost was just associated to getting it debugged initially (o2 sensors, cracked exhaust manifolds, etc) and when I finally gave up on the cooling system (had them do water pump and thermostat). So, it's looking like 3-4k of depreciation and 5-7k of maintenance over 2 years. Not cheap, but not the worst I've seen in terms of yearly automotive cost :). Scott. -----Original Message----- From: Scott McClung [mailto:smlists@pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:51 AM To: Scott; E36M3 Subject: Re: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) I think the price is reasonable. If I were in the market for an M3 coupe - I would strongly consider yours and be willing to pay in the neighborhood of $14-15K for it. Scott --- Scott <stiles_s@hotmail.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:52:36 -0700 > From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> > Subject: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my > '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) > > Do you guys think I'm off target on price? Asking on > bimmerforums would > probably net me "dude, you're *way* off. I just > picked up a 328 w/M badges > and a rebuilt title for $5k" > > It isn't a show car, but mechanically it's in great > shape with tons of new > parts over the past couple years. The PO took good > care of the car, but > didn't "invest" if you know what I mean. On the plus > side it has all orig > body panels w/orig paint on them. It has a few > scratches and dings, but from > 10' it's perfect. The front and rear bumper skins > have had a little love, > but again they fit and look great. > > Interior wise, the only wear is the outboard > bolsters on the driver's seat. > No rips. > > Everything in the car works: obc, radio, sunroof, > etc. > > Shortcut w/better pics > http://www.bmwpugetsound.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=35614 > > Can I get some more thoughts on pricing? If this > turns out to be a $11k car > I'm keeping the damn thing :) > > Thanks much, > Scott. > > -----Original Message----- > From: kjk [mailto:quierom5@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:49 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs > > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:40:13 -0700 (PDT) > From: kjk <quierom5@yahoo.com> > Subject: Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs > > Graeme wrote: > > "Mandatory M3 content: Please report back how you > get > on selling your car for $15k. Edmunds and KBB are > stating $9-$12k for excellent condition '97 > Coupe's." > > You know //M cars. Pay now or pay later. I am paying > later on my recent purchase of a '95 M3. When all is > said and done I will have spent over $15k to have a > car I should have nearly had for the original > purchase > price (although it will have a fresh head). I might > not pay quite $15k for that car but he is in the > right > ballpark. > > Kevin > '95 Avus/Dove > '91 M5 >
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#9. Re: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) - from Mark D
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:22:46 -0400 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) Scott, I think you're pretty reasonable but what is delusional is assuming you can recover parts and labor. It's just not happening. In my case my 1996 with 190,000 miles has a freshened top end with tons of new sensors and completely redone cooling system at a cost of $3000 (in parts only). I've also done a TON of other maintenance (new brakes all around, tires, suspension, drivers seat repair, speakers, HID headlights, battery, etc. A similar car before the head gasket would be worth around $9000-9500. I've seen 95's and 96's go with high mileage for as low as $5K and makes me wonder what their story was. One potential buyer told me he'd rather find one with high miles that didn't have the head gasket done on it, then pay the $10,500 to $11,000 I wanted for it. I silently wondered to myself if he was insane or he really thought his undone head gasket would NEVER go. I don't know that I could get $9500 for it now with buyer mentality. They don't realize that with these cars if one person hits an issue at 175,000 miles the rest of the owners are almost CERTAIN to follow. I don't drive it in the winter, it's got no rust, was in an accident but was repaired undetectably, and it's been treated well since the first owner. I think it's a forever car for me. Later on I plan to finish the suspension and build a race motor for it with a supercharger. Should breathe new life into the car for me and cost a whole lot less than an E46 :) (over $20K more than my car is worth, with no 75K done) What really shocks me is how little people will pay for heavily modded cars. I saw an AA turbocharged 97 with around 100,000 miles for sale years ago for $17,500. Maybe it was burning oil or something but still. The AA kit costs $10K or so by itself! I guess the moral of the story is buy as pristine as possible with Scott's car being a prime example of a buyable car, then prepare to pay through the nose :-P Especially since head gaskets on these cars seem to be time (and number of cold starts?) related much more so than mileage related. PS: I put a petroleum based fogging treatment (seafoam) into the intake of my 3000GT beater car. I really wish I took some video of the smoke. It was amazing and filled about a 2+ acre field with a dense no visibility fog. My lash adjuster tick is gone :-P So much more smoke than you see on the youtube videos people post. I don't think you can use a treatment like that on the M3 due to the plastic intake but I'm not sure on that. Thanks, Mark Scott wrote: > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:00:45 -0700 > From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> > Subject: RE: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) > > Thanks all for the feedback on this. Sounds like I'm a bit high on the > asking price, but not totally delusional. One of the challenges is educating > the potential buyers about the real value of the mechanical maintenance that > has gone on w/the car over the past couple years. The "75k checklist" is > effectively complete on this car, and wasn't cheap. > > I paid ~16k for the car a couple years ago. I think I overpaid a bit, but > really valued the one-ish owner history (previous owner bought it from the > dealer in '98 after the sales mgr drove it for a year) and the original > paint and interior. > > My wild swag is I've dumped 3-4k in shop cost into the car and probably > another 2-3k in parts for the work I did myself (a ton of it). The shop cost > was just associated to getting it debugged initially (o2 sensors, cracked > exhaust manifolds, etc) and when I finally gave up on the cooling system > (had them do water pump and thermostat). > > So, it's looking like 3-4k of depreciation and 5-7k of maintenance over 2 > years. Not cheap, but not the worst I've seen in terms of yearly automotive > cost :). > > Scott. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott McClung [mailto:smlists@pacbell.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:51 AM > To: Scott; E36M3 > Subject: Re: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and > RGRs) > > I think the price is reasonable. If I were in the > market for an M3 coupe - I would strongly consider > yours and be willing to pay in the neighborhood of > $14-15K for it. > > Scott > > --- Scott <stiles_s@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:52:36 -0700 >> From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> >> Subject: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my >> '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) >> >> Do you guys think I'm off target on price? Asking on >> bimmerforums would >> probably net me "dude, you're *way* off. I just >> picked up a 328 w/M badges >> and a rebuilt title for $5k" >> >> It isn't a show car, but mechanically it's in great >> shape with tons of new >> parts over the past couple years. The PO took good >> care of the car, but >> didn't "invest" if you know what I mean. On the plus >> side it has all orig >> body panels w/orig paint on them. It has a few >> scratches and dings, but from >> 10' it's perfect. The front and rear bumper skins >> have had a little love, >> but again they fit and look great. >> >> Interior wise, the only wear is the outboard >> bolsters on the driver's seat. >> No rips. >> >> Everything in the car works: obc, radio, sunroof, >> etc. >> >> Shortcut w/better pics >> >> > http://www.bmwpugetsound.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=35614 > >> Can I get some more thoughts on pricing? If this >> turns out to be a $11k car >> I'm keeping the damn thing :) >> >> Thanks much, >> Scott. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: kjk [mailto:quierom5@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:49 AM >> To: E36M3 >> Subject: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs >> >> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:40:13 -0700 (PDT) >> From: kjk <quierom5@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs >> >> Graeme wrote: >> >> "Mandatory M3 content: Please report back how you >> get >> on selling your car for $15k. Edmunds and KBB are >> stating $9-$12k for excellent condition '97 >> Coupe's." >> >> You know //M cars. Pay now or pay later. I am paying >> later on my recent purchase of a '95 M3. When all is >> said and done I will have spent over $15k to have a >> car I should have nearly had for the original >> purchase >> price (although it will have a fresh head). I might >> not pay quite $15k for that car but he is in the >> right >> ballpark. >> >> Kevin >> '95 Avus/Dove >> '91 M5 >> >> > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#10. Re: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) - from David Thomas
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:49:16 -0700 From: David Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: Help with pricing (RE: [E36M3] Selling my '97 M3 Coupe and RGRs) On Tuesday 02 October 2007 12:38:39 pm Mark D wrote: > What really shocks me is how little people will pay for heavily modded > cars. I saw an AA turbocharged 97 with around 100,000 miles for sale > years ago for $17,500. Maybe it was burning oil or something but > still. The AA kit costs $10K or so by itself! While I would be more than happy to build my own blown M3, I would not touch a used one unless it was a crazy deal and I knew the installer (and even then I would probably not buy it). A seller of such a car would do much better to sell the AA kit and car separately since only a certain type of person would want that car, and most of those types enjoy the building process as much as driving the finished product, so it really kills the value for a lot of people (myself included). You can always find a sucker...err...I mean buyer...but major mods like that really kill the value for me. Dave