E36M3 #5452

Tuesday, October 16, 2007 13:49:39

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Problems when vehicle is towed... - from Carlos Lopez
#2. Re: [E36M3] Problems when vehicle is towed... - from David Thomas
#3. RE: E36 Oil Cooler - Seeking help - from Burgess, Kim L
#4. RE: Oscillating Driver Window - from Burgess, Kim L
#5. RE: [E36M3] Problems when vehicle is towed... - from Matt Bader
#6. Re:Oscillating Driver Window - from Lawrence Barbieri
#7. Re: E36 Oil Cooler - Seeking help - from Neil Maller
#8. Re: [E36M3] Problems when vehicle is towed... - from Mark D
#9. RE: [E36M3] Re: E36 Oil Cooler - Seeking help - from Matt Bader
#10. Re: [E36M3] Re:Oscillating Driver Window - from kwill69058@comcast.net

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Problems when vehicle is towed... - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:01:05 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Problems when vehicle is towed... On 10/16/07, Matthew Finlay <matthew.finlay@gmail.com> wrote: > Any helpful thoughts out there? I would get the car thoroughly inspected (or do it yourself on jack stands). They're probably not telling you because they pulled it from someplace that isn't meant to be pulled from. Who would know your tow eye is in the trunk tool kit and that the threaded hole is behind a trim piece on your bumper cover? Nobody that's who. They probably pulled it by the control arms. That's a wild guess of course. :-) Carlos 98 M3 towed once but voluntarily

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Problems when vehicle is towed... - from David Thomas
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:18:27 -0700 From: David Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Problems when vehicle is towed... On Tuesday 16 October 2007 7:39:28 am Matthew Finlay wrote: >  I do know that the tow > company used a flatbed, though they wouldn't tell me how they got my car on > the truck. They hooked cables to the control arms and pulled it...guaranteed. Hows the front bumper cover look? Did you check under the car for cable connection points and obvious damage from the yank and tow? I cant think of anything they could have done that would have caused the noises you are describing but you can bend the control arms if they are used to yank the car onto the flatbed. Alignment feel OK? Dave

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#3. RE: E36 Oil Cooler - Seeking help - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:22:17 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: E36 Oil Cooler - Seeking help Zionsville make a nice unit and you can get them through Bimmerzone.com: Zionsville Radiators - Free Shipping - in the Group Purchases & Supporting Vendor Specials presented by Amex forum of Bimmerforums - The Ultimate BMW Forum. This thread is located at: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=837538 *************** Part number: E36ARIOC /Vanos is $1399 with Free shipping :) http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/store/shop.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code= 6134&Product_Code=E36ARIOC&Category_Code=FWM KLBurgess From: Jason Bowers [mailto:jbowers@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 7:09 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] E36 Oil Cooler - Seeking help Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:01:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Bowers <jbowers@sbcglobal.net> Subject: E36 Oil Cooler - Seeking help I am looking to add a stage (2) AA twin screw supercharger to a stock e36 m3. Anyone have any recommendations for an appropriate oil cooler to complement?

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#4. RE: Oscillating Driver Window - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:28:02 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Oscillating Driver Window I have heard that wiring tie wraps work well to build up the required material thickness. KLB -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:45:07 -0700 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Oscillating Driver Window This feature is controlled by a micro switch in the door latch on the door jamb. If you stick your little finger between the round post and the jamb, you can operate the switch causing the window to move up/down about 1/2". You may have a bad switch. Or, it may just be worn a little. Try wrapping some tape around the post or adding some to the surface of the switch to "adjust". - Jay

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#5. RE: [E36M3] Problems when vehicle is towed... - from Matt Bader
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:32:44 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Problems when vehicle is towed... The tow guy who towed mine (voluntarily) said the E36's aren't hard to manage but the E46's are a nightmare because of the aluminum suspension parts. -----Original Message----- From: Carlos Lopez [mailto:clopez98m3@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:10 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Problems when vehicle is towed... Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:01:05 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Problems when vehicle is towed... On 10/16/07, Matthew Finlay <matthew.finlay@gmail.com> wrote: > Any helpful thoughts out there? I would get the car thoroughly inspected (or do it yourself on jack stands). They're probably not telling you because they pulled it from someplace that isn't meant to be pulled from. Who would know your tow eye is in the trunk tool kit and that the threaded hole is behind a trim piece on your bumper cover? Nobody that's who. They probably pulled it by the control arms. That's a wild guess of course. :-) Carlos 98 M3 towed once but voluntarily ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#6. Re:Oscillating Driver Window - from Lawrence Barbieri
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:21:49 -0400 From: "Lawrence Barbieri" <larry@logicalconclusions.com> Subject: Re:Oscillating Driver Window Alex, Open the door and take a look at the latch attached to the car. You'll see a small button at the back side of it. That button is what signals the door is closed. It's probably worn down and now is intermittent when the door is closed. I had this same problem that manifested itself on a bumpy road in Canada when the window started going nuts. I thought the car was possessed! I have not tried to replace the latch, but I did put a small bit of carefully trimmed duct tape over the button to take up some of the gap. It will work for a while. - Larry -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:01:20 -0400 From: "Avedis, Alexander (US SSA)" <alexander.avedis@baesystems.com> Subject: Oscillating Driver Window Anybody ever run across an intermittent symptom of the driver's door window dropping and raising [the close with door shut feature] repeatedly after the door has been shut? Would it be a bad outside door lever switch [thinking that someone is attempting to open the door] or does the whole window need to be adjusted as if the glass were replaced. Bentley is not too clear on this. Any assistance appreciated. Thanks. Alex NJ Chapter

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#7. Re: E36 Oil Cooler - Seeking help - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:28:20 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: E36 Oil Cooler - Seeking help on 10/16/07 11:59 AM, Jason Bowers [mailto:jbowers@sbcglobal.net] wrote: > I am looking to add a stage (2) AA twin screw supercharger to a stock e36 > m3. Anyone have any recommendations for an appropriate oil cooler to > complement? You could have a look at the racing version oil cooler sold by VAC. Or the competition cooling package from Zionsville. Or AA offers the Euro E36 M3 oil cooler, for only $400 more than VAC. Or you can assemble your own setup if you're so inclined and pretty handy. I've recently done that (for the second time). on 10/16/07 11:59 AM, "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> wrote: > Jason, are we talking oil cooler for the traction oil or overall oil cooler? I almost hesitate to ask, but what's "traction oil?" Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Problems when vehicle is towed... - from Mark D
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:26:37 -0400 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Problems when vehicle is towed... The towing companies in the Philadelphia area are absolutely nefarious (nevermind the evil parking nazis that like to ticket scooters and motorcycles and of course the ticket flies away in the wind because there's no place to attach it to) I had my girlfriend's honda civic towed from an empty abandoned lot near chinatown that everyone parked in for 2 years and then magically on a holiday there was a sudden tow spree! The towing signage was so old on the property that it was almost unreadable. So we catch the guy in the act of towing other cars and he's going about hooking up a car and I notice that he doesn't have little wheel dollies like some do. I didn't think much of it. I made a deal, paid him and then he fetched the car from the lot and brought it back to us (at LEAST he did that). When it came back the alarm was blaring and he was towing it from the front wheels with the rear wheels free spinning. The ebrake was on before we left. I opened the front driver door and it was unlocked. They BROKE into my car to release the ebrake so they didn't damage anything. I wasn't sure if I should be happy or thoroughly miffed. I have seen it done properly. They have wheel blocks that they attach the rear wheels to before moving the car. They're 2-4 wheel devices that jack up the rear of the car and can be ridden on for towing purposes. But what was I supposed to do? When confronted the guy turned into an irrational musclehead brute (I'm a big guy and he had at least 100 pounds on me) and threatened to beat the hell out of me. He claimed he released the ebrake from under the car which I am 100% sure is a lie. A slim jim is a little cleaner, plus the ebrake still worked just fine and I know the clicker mechanism isn't exposed to the undercarriage. I told him to go die in a fire on his way off with one of the cars and he actually stopped in the middle of hte highway, got out of his tow truck and came after me. I wasn't having any of that with that nut job so I got in the car and bolted... What can I say, I like my face intact. In this case, I have absolutely NO DOUBT that they towed your car IN GEAR violating the ebrake completely and most likely redlining your engine. Nail them to the wall if you have the resources to. As far as I can tell if they got the car up from the rear wheels on an m3 the front end would be severely damaged from the ride. Thankfully the m3 is harder to break into than a civic but that may also be your downfall in this case. I have no sympathy for the towing companies that behave this way when dealing cars they don't understand or possessions that people find precious. In my case I knew I could get towed, but hey.. They could have at least put up a new sign or some sort of warning indicator that suddenly they cared at all about people parking in the lot. Guess not. I don't understand how half the things they do in that industry are remotely legal. Thanks, Mark Matthew Finlay wrote: > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:30:37 -0500 > From: "Matthew Finlay" <matthew.finlay@gmail.com> > Subject: Problems when vehicle is towed... > > Through a mis-read sign, and an somewhat abusive security department, I > managed to get my car towed the other day. My car had been backed into the > parking space and of course I left first gear engaged, along with the > parking brake. > > I drove my car yesterday, and the engine compartment sounded a cacophanous > chorus of complaints, ranging from screeching belt-like sounds to > marbles-in-a-can-like sounds, to squeeky pulley kinds of sounds. The car > still seems to drive okay...no loud clunky noises from an abused > differential or transmission, for instance. I am afraid to drive it > anywhere else, though. > > I'm wondering if these noises might be directly related to the involuntary > tow. Have any of you had experience with this sort of thing? How might a > poorly-towed car be damaged in the towing process? I do know that the tow > company used a flatbed, though they wouldn't tell me how they got my car on > the truck. > > I recently refreshed the cooling system as well, with two new belts, a new > aluminum radiator, new water pump (I splurged for the stewart lifetime > warranty one from bimmerworld - worth at least 25 horsepower), new > thermostat and thermostat housing. It was driven only a small amount after > the cooling system refresh, but enough that I was sure there were no leaks, > no air in the lines, etc. The little bit of spilled coolant on the belts > and pulleys made for some noisy slipping belts initially, but that > disappeared almost immediately as the coolant dried up. I don't believe > these noises are related to cooling system, but I wanted to provide the > information to the group. >

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#9. RE: [E36M3] Re: E36 Oil Cooler - Seeking help - from Matt Bader
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:35:38 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: E36 Oil Cooler - Seeking help Traction oil is the Rotrex proprietary oil used to keep the supercharger lubricated. Good suggestions on the oil cooler issue. I am going to look into that myself. -----Original Message----- From: Neil Maller [mailto:neil.maller@gte.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:40 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: E36 Oil Cooler - Seeking help Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:28:20 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: E36 Oil Cooler - Seeking help on 10/16/07 11:59 AM, Jason Bowers [mailto:jbowers@sbcglobal.net] wrote: > I am looking to add a stage (2) AA twin screw supercharger to a stock e36 > m3. Anyone have any recommendations for an appropriate oil cooler to > complement? You could have a look at the racing version oil cooler sold by VAC. Or the competition cooling package from Zionsville. Or AA offers the Euro E36 M3 oil cooler, for only $400 more than VAC. Or you can assemble your own setup if you're so inclined and pretty handy. I've recently done that (for the second time). on 10/16/07 11:59 AM, "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> wrote: > Jason, are we talking oil cooler for the traction oil or overall oil cooler? I almost hesitate to ask, but what's "traction oil?" Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re:Oscillating Driver Window - from kwill69058@comcast.net
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:46:35 +0000 From: kwill69058@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re:Oscillating Driver Window I just changed mine Sunday It was doing that exact thing. Works great ! :) -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Lawrence Barbieri" <larry@logicalconclusions.com> > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:21:49 -0400 > From: "Lawrence Barbieri" > Subject: Re:Oscillating Driver Window > > Alex, > > Open the door and take a look at the latch attached to the car. You'll see > a small button at the back side of it. That button is what signals the door > is closed. It's probably worn down and now is intermittent when the door is > closed. > > I had this same problem that manifested itself on a bumpy road in Canada > when the window started going nuts. I thought the car was possessed! > > I have not tried to replace the latch, but I did put a small bit of > carefully trimmed duct tape over the button to take up some of the gap. It > will work for a while. > > - Larry > > -------------------- 9 -------------------- > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:01:20 -0400 > From: "Avedis, Alexander (US SSA)" > Subject: Oscillating Driver Window > > Anybody ever run across an intermittent symptom of the driver's door > window dropping and raising [the close with door shut feature] > repeatedly after the door has been shut? Would it be a bad outside door > lever switch [thinking that someone is attempting to open the door] or > does the whole window need to be adjusted as if the glass were replaced.. > Bentley is not too clear on this. > > > > Any assistance appreciated. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Alex > > NJ Chapter > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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