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#1. Towing woes - from Matthew Finlay
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:23:48 -0500 From: "Matthew Finlay" <matthew.finlay@gmail.com> Subject: Towing woes Thanks for the comments everyone. Given how well the car seems to drive (even though it sounds awful) I'm thinking this may just be an unhappy coincidence. The alignment is no worse than it was before the tow...it was a little jacked up because of an agricultural excursion on my last DE. The front fascia looked fine (i haven't lowered the suspension yet) but I haven't gone underneath to figure out where the driver hooked up. I'm hoping he used those trolley things. Either way, I'm afraid this is beyond my meager automotive skills to diagnose, so I'll be taking it into the shop this weekend. Sad...because I'm running out of nice days to drive it. Matthew
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Towing woes - from Mark D
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:21:31 -0400 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Towing woes Matthew Finlay wrote: > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:23:48 -0500 > From: "Matthew Finlay" <matthew.finlay@gmail.com> > Subject: Towing woes > > Thanks for the comments everyone. Given how well the car seems to drive > (even though it sounds awful) I'm thinking this may just be an unhappy > coincidence. The alignment is no worse than it was before the tow...it was > a little jacked up because of an agricultural excursion on my last DE. > > The front fascia looked fine (i haven't lowered the suspension yet) but I > haven't gone underneath to figure out where the driver hooked up. I'm > hoping he used those trolley things. > > Either way, I'm afraid this is beyond my meager automotive skills to > diagnose, so I'll be taking it into the shop this weekend. Sad...because > I'm running out of nice days to drive it. > > Matthew > I have to call shenanigans on myself for my response to this one. I glossed over the flatbed part. No way they redlined it, and others suggestions of pulling by the control arms are probably dead on. Thanks, Mark
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#3. Handling Differences in body types - from Mark D
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:58:41 -0400 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Handling Differences in body types Hey guys, We're actively looking now for an M for my fiance (I never thought I'd be so happy about spending a wad of money on her), and she insists on having it be different than mine in some respect. The main thing she's looking for is automatic trans and either 4 door or convertible. I was wondering if someone could weigh in on just how much worse the convertible handles than the sedan? Is the weight balance okay on the convertible? I've been talking the breed up for 4 years now so it has a high standard to live up to for her now that she can actually drive the car. She can drive stick but she cannot drive the M3 no matter how hard she tries... Clutch is just too firm for her skinny legs. I'd like to hear from you guys because honestly I'm hesitant to really exercise the car in the test drive when the owner will undoubtedly be in the car. Thanks, Mark
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Handling Differences in body types - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:09:33 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Handling Differences in body types On 10/16/07, Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> wrote: > We're actively looking now for an M for my fiance (I never thought I'd > be so happy about spending a wad of money on her), and she insists on > having it be different than mine in some respect. The main thing she's > looking for is automatic trans and either 4 door or convertible. E46 with SMG. :-D The E36 M3 convertible, the floppy noodle of E36s. Bah, skip it. ;-) Carlos 98 M3
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Towing woes - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:26:51 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Towing woes If the car has stock lower controls arms in back, they are sleeved on the trailing edge by plastic and if in the event if hooked here and towed, there is likely evidence by a little stress ding in the surface now. Should be easy to see, and stock control arms are cheap to relatively easy to replace anyway. Patrick 97 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Mark D [mailto:mdlkml@atari-source.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:30 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Towing woes Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:21:31 -0400 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Towing woes Matthew Finlay wrote: > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:23:48 -0500 > From: "Matthew Finlay" <matthew.finlay@gmail.com> > Subject: Towing woes > > Thanks for the comments everyone. Given how well the car seems to drive > (even though it sounds awful) I'm thinking this may just be an unhappy > coincidence. The alignment is no worse than it was before the tow...it was > a little jacked up because of an agricultural excursion on my last DE. > > The front fascia looked fine (i haven't lowered the suspension yet) but I > haven't gone underneath to figure out where the driver hooked up. I'm > hoping he used those trolley things. > > Either way, I'm afraid this is beyond my meager automotive skills to > diagnose, so I'll be taking it into the shop this weekend. Sad...because > I'm running out of nice days to drive it. > > Matthew > I have to call shenanigans on myself for my response to this one. I glossed over the flatbed part. No way they redlined it, and others suggestions of pulling by the control arms are probably dead on. Thanks, Mark ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Handling Differences in body types - from Vikas.Sinha@zf.com
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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:21:17 -0400 From: <Vikas.Sinha@zf.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Handling Differences in body types Mark, speaking as a completely unbiased observer, skip the vert. Get the four door. Four doors rock. ;) Seriously, I drove several coupes before I got my four door, and I could not discern any difference in driving dynamics between the two. List weight is the same, and there is appreciably more headroom in the four door to boot. I never drove a convertible, so I can offer no opinion there. As for exercising a potential purchase with the owner in the car, I wouldn't sweat it. I don't think there's anything wrong with getting into the ABS or running the car up to redline as long as A) you make sure the car is warmed up first, 2) there's no traffic around, and c) you give the owner a heads-up before you do it. As a seller, I would have no beef as long as those three conditions were met. Good luck on the hunt! :) Vik 97 M3/4 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark D [mailto:mdlkml@atari-source.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:10 PM > > Hey guys, > > We're actively looking now for an M for my fiance (I never thought I'd > be so happy about spending a wad of money on her), and she insists on > having it be different than mine in some respect. The main thing she's > looking for is automatic trans and either 4 door or convertible. I was > wondering if someone could weigh in on just how much worse the > convertible handles than the sedan? Is the weight balance okay on the > convertible? I've been talking the breed up for 4 years now so it has a > high standard to live up to for her now that she can actually drive the > car. She can drive stick but she cannot drive the M3 no matter how > hard she tries... Clutch is just too firm for her skinny legs. I'd like > to hear from you guys because honestly I'm hesitant to really exercise > the car in the test drive when the owner will undoubtedly be in the car.
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#7. Re: 46MM Wheel Retaining Socket - from William Townsend
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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:23:30 -0400 From: "William Townsend" <wtownsend@juniper.net> Subject: Re: 46MM Wheel Retaining Socket I bought probably the same S-K impact 46mm. I knew when I ordered it was too fat. Put it on the bench grinder, problem solved. Also makes for a good install tool for hammering the hub back on. Some of these just slide right on, others need a little persuasion. --Bill 96 M3 coupe
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#8. virtual e92 M3 game - from bnmhead-bmw@yahoo.com
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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:20:03 -0700 (PDT) From: <bnmhead-bmw@yahoo.com> Subject: virtual e92 M3 game BMW's come out with a freeware pc driving game featuring the new M3 - you can compete online also "Description: BMW M3 Challenge and its four different playing modes will provide plenty of opportunity for determined practice for the soon starting worldwide online competition where talented drivers can already register on the official homepage. Up to 1000 drivers will compete against each other to prove their racing skills. The candidates will participate in more than 100 races according to the “shoot-out” method, which sends the best of them to the next race, and on to the next, etc., which become progressively more difficult. The length of the races will vary between 5 and 25 rounds. The thrilling live finale will then crown the best of 14 finalists as the vic tor. Exciting prizes await the "M3 Challenge World Champion"." www.m3-challenge.com http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34385/118/
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#9. OT: Z8 in the new Roundel - from David Thomas
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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:01:12 -0700 From: David Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: OT: Z8 in the new Roundel Have you guys seen the article in the new Roundel about the Z8 with the Daytona Prototype V8 in it? Decent article...nice car...but I could not help think to myself: Someone actually paid around $80K to get another 100HP out of their Z8? How Dinan ;-) The article does not give precise performance figures (which I cant stand..is a dyno run too much to ask?) but they say the mod would cost about $160K and the buyer was having it done for 'less than half that' and that the next round of mods would get it up to 'about 570HP', so I am guessing on the 500HP and $80K figure but its close enough. So..for a ton of money he got another 100'ish HP and a 'one off' engine (close enough to 'one off' at least) that only Dinan can properly service. What a deal! Nice car, neat engine, but man...that's a lot of money for another 100HP. Dave
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#10. Re: [E36M3] OT: Z8 in the new Roundel - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:44:08 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Z8 in the new Roundel Think that makes no sense? There is a E90 (new 3 series?) with the drivetrain of a new M5. It was $80K after the purchase of the 3er. On Oct 17, 2007, at 9:04 PM, David Thomas wrote: > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:01:12 -0700 > From: David Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> > Subject: OT: Z8 in the new Roundel > > > Have you guys seen the article in the new Roundel about the Z8 with > the > Daytona Prototype V8 in it? Decent article...nice car...but I could > not help > think to myself: Someone actually paid around $80K to get another > 100HP out > of their Z8? How Dinan ;-) > > The article does not give precise performance figures (which I cant > stand..is > a dyno run too much to ask?) but they say the mod would cost about > $160K and > the buyer was having it done for 'less than half that' and that the > next > round of mods would get it up to 'about 570HP', so I am guessing on > the 500HP > and $80K figure but its close enough. So..for a ton of money he got > another > 100'ish HP and a 'one off' engine (close enough to 'one off' at > least) that > only Dinan can properly service. What a deal! > > Nice car, neat engine, but man...that's a lot of money for another > 100HP. > > Dave > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >