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#1. Transmission support / torque twist - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:43:50 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Transmission support / torque twist At the last track event we attended in Spokane, I was finally starting to have trouble with torque twist of the transmission and the potential of a money shift. As it was, I only suffered through getting 5th instead of 3rd - could have been a lot worse. I was browsing the JT Design site and noticed their transmission brace product. Seems like a good option but I don't know enough about this versus other mount / bushing replacement options. Can I get some help learning about the correct direction to go with this? TIA...
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#2. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] 95 No start fuel pump? - from Marco Romani
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:49:08 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] 95 No start fuel pump? Lift the rear seat out and then just turn the key to the on position. You should hear the fuel pump running if it's good. If you can't hear it crank it over and try and listen. The noise is loud enough to hear if the seat is removed. If you don't hear it, rap the bottom of the fuel tank with your hand or a dead blow. That will usually give a dieing fuel pump enough gumption to run (for a while). I've started multiple seemingly dead fuel pumps this way. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Mark D [mailto:mdlkml@atari-source.com] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:34 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] 95 No start fuel pump? Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:38:47 -0400 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 95 No start fuel pump? Steve Klein wrote: > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:27:08 -0500 > From: Steve Klein <s.klein@steveklein.cc> > Subject: 95 No start fuel pump? > > Hi, Gang- > As of yesterday, my car will crank just fine but not fire, and I > wanted to confirm if my hypothesis of dead fuel pump ( @ 180k/mi) > makes sense. > > For a while, after sitting for a day, the car would take a few > seconds of cranking to fire up, just as if the fuel rail was draining > off, then filling back up. I thought perhaps the regulator was on the > way out, but it ran just fine. > > Yesterday, it cranked for 10 sec, then caught and stumbled roughly > for a while until I stepped on the accelerator pedal, then ran > smoothly at aprox. 2k/ rpms, but would drop back to a rough idle. > > I left it overnight and just went to start it again, and now, it > cranks and cranks, but won't catch at all. I'll add that the tank was > nearly empty yesterday and I'm parked on a slope with the car leaning > towards the pump side. I put in 3+ gal. of gas, and that's when it > caught finally. There's plenty of gas in it now and I've cranked it > long enough to pump fuel back to the engine, but no go. > > I'm ready to order a new FPR, filter and pump, but wanted to get a > little feedback from others before I start throwing parts at it. The > fuse and relay both check out, tho I haven't put a multi-meter on the > pump yet. Should I check for excessive current draw as a sign of failure? Out of curiosity have you checked for spark? That sounds suspiciously to me like a failing camshaft position sensor that has no failed the rest of hte way. I suppose it could be the crank sensor too but those seem to fail less often if at all. The reason I say this is because I would think a failing fuel pump would generate enough pressure to idle but then would stumble and buck all over the place once you get on it due to lack of fuel and the lean mixture. Thanks, Mark ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.3/1082 - Release Date: 10/20/2007 2:59 PM
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:57:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist On Mon, October 22, 2007 10:44 am, Gus Iverson wrote: > Can I get some help > learning about the correct direction to go with this? Don't shift when in a corner or under lateral load? :-) Otherwise, I use the Rogue Engineering transmission mounts on the race car, and haven't had an issue locating a gear. <http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=TM> Jim Bassett P.S. for those of you that have been around here a while wondered, "Yeah Jim, what about that misshift in your first event in the race car?" Well, that was on stock mounts and regardless was 100% pilot error. Top picture here, for the folks not familiar: http://www.jimbassett.com/Otherpix.shtml
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:08:51 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist The problems I have had have been at corner entry / exit. I have not had a significant problem (that I noticed) shifting during straight line accelleration. Car is mostly street driven, but I have little concern about NVH. I am not turning it into a stripped race car (yet - it is a sedan, too valuable to me as a street car), but I have the TC Kline D/A bits on it and I'm systematically replacing the OE bushings with the tooth-rattling bits so I can take on more NVH than one might otherwise think for a street car. On 10/22/07, Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:57:06 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist > > On Mon, October 22, 2007 10:44 am, Gus Iverson wrote: > > Can I get some help > > learning about the correct direction to go with this? > > Don't shift when in a corner or under lateral load? :-) > > Otherwise, I use the Rogue Engineering transmission mounts on the race > car, and haven't had an issue locating a gear. > > <http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=TM> > > Jim Bassett > > P.S. for those of you that have been around here a while wondered, "Yeah > Jim, what about that misshift in your first event in the race car?" Well, > that was on stock mounts and regardless was 100% pilot error. Top picture > here, for the folks not familiar: > http://www.jimbassett.com/Otherpix.shtml > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist - from Jay Hudson
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:19:56 -0700 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist Aftermarket trans brace/x-members are not legal in some classes. Not sure if that matters to you. UUC and others make tranny mounts that work with the OEM x-brace. They do make a very nice improvement over OEM tranny mounts. I've previously used the UUC black tranny mounts with the aluminum enforcers (TME) and liked them very much. I currently use the UUC thru-bolt race mounts and also the UUC motor mounts. Again, like them very much. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:43:50 -0700 > From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> > Subject: Transmission support / torque twist > > At the last track event we attended in Spokane, I was finally starting > to have trouble with torque twist of the transmission and the > potential of a money shift. As it was, I only suffered through getting > 5th instead of 3rd - could have been a lot worse. > > I was browsing the JT Design site and noticed their transmission brace > product. Seems like a good option but I don't know enough about this > versus other mount / bushing replacement options. Can I get some help > learning about the correct direction to go with this? > > TIA...
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist - from Jay Hudson
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:21:36 -0700 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist Have you checked to make sure your motor mounts are not the problem? Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:08:51 -0700 > From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist > > The problems I have had have been at corner entry / exit. I have not > had a significant problem (that I noticed) shifting during straight > line accelleration. > > Car is mostly street driven, but I have little concern about NVH. I am > not turning it into a stripped race car (yet - it is a sedan, too > valuable to me as a street car), but I have the TC Kline D/A bits on > it and I'm systematically replacing the OE bushings with the > tooth-rattling bits so I can take on more NVH than one might otherwise > think for a street car. >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Question RE UUC Shortshifter - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:25:33 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Question RE UUC Shortshifter WSR (Weighted Selector Rod). This might help. I have a B&M and I don't notice any real effort between it and stock. Kent On Oct 22, 2007, at 10:34 AM, kjk wrote: > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:13:57 -0700 (PDT) > From: kjk <quierom5@yahoo.com> > Subject: Question RE UUC Shortshifter > > I have a new to me '95 M3 with the UCC SS. I am not > exactly sure which model but it was installed within > the last 2 years. I just had the transmission fluid > replaced with Redline ATF. Before and after the fluid > change, it is very difficult to get in first gear to > the extent that I have to put it in as I roll to a > stop. I have yet to check under the shift boot to see > if I can extend the height. In my M5 I have the UUC > kit with a stainless steel knob and it is quite > smooth. However, the effort in the M3 is just too > great. Any near stock solutions? Seriously, I am not > going to lose to much time on track with a longer > throw and in my opinion the increase in effort offsets > any benefit at the moment. > > Kevin Kelly > '95 M3 > '91 M5 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#8. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news - from Marco Romani
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:30:38 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news Hmm slightly smaller than an E36 M3 and weighs 600lbs + more. Cool. Where did they hide the lead? It does have a tiny bit better weight/hp ratio. Marco -----Original Message----- From: mdriver13@aol.com [mailto:mdriver13@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:54 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:53:05 -0400 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news Group, For those of you that did not receive the BMW 1-series email here is the link: http://links.emails.bmwusa.com/servlet/MailView?ms=NTc4NDYyS0&r=MTQ1MzQ0MTM1 MAS2&j=Mzg5MDEwNzkS1&mt=1 enjoy! Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering -----Original Message----- From: mdriver13@aol.com To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 3:14 pm Subject: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:08:34 -0400 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: OT: 135 coupe - latest news Group, Okay, since it must be a slow day, did anyone else get the email from BMWNA on the new 135 series coupe?? Or am I just special ;-))? This still looks like the hot ticket to me.? Closest thing to the e36 series in years.? I'm getting goose-bumps already!? Electronically controlled limited slip differential -- is this a good thing? cheers, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM
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#9. Re: Question RE UUC Shortshifter - from Lawrence Barbieri
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:36:16 -0400 From: "Lawrence Barbieri" <larry@logicalconclusions.com> Subject: Re: Question RE UUC Shortshifter Kevin, Have you looked under the clutch for an aftermarket clutch stop? Some times if the clutch stop is adjusted too high you'll have trouble getting into first gear. If there is a clutch stop, take it out and see if that works better. Then you can replace it with the proper adjustment. Just trying to rule out the simple stuff first. - Larry -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:13:57 -0700 (PDT) > From: kjk <quierom5@yahoo.com> > Subject: Question RE UUC Shortshifter > > I have a new to me '95 M3 with the UCC SS. I am not > exactly sure which model but it was installed within > the last 2 years. I just had the transmission fluid > replaced with Redline ATF. Before and after the fluid > change, it is very difficult to get in first gear to > the extent that I have to put it in as I roll to a > stop. I have yet to check under the shift boot to see > if I can extend the height. In my M5 I have the UUC > kit with a stainless steel knob and it is quite > smooth. However, the effort in the M3 is just too > great. Any near stock solutions? Seriously, I am not > going to lose to much time on track with a longer > throw and in my opinion the increase in effort offsets > any benefit at the moment. > > Kevin Kelly > '95 M3 > '91 M5 > > __________________________________________________ >
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:39:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist On Mon, October 22, 2007 11:14 am, Gus Iverson wrote: > Car is mostly street driven, but I have little concern about NVH. I am > not turning it into a stripped race car (yet - it is a sedan, too > valuable to me as a street car), but I have the TC Kline D/A bits on > it and I'm systematically replacing the OE bushings with the > tooth-rattling bits so I can take on more NVH than one might otherwise > think for a street car. Then try the RE mounts. And, Jay made a good point as well, check your motor mounts. Jim Bassett
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#11. Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:41:08 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist I have zero concerns about class legality, only avoiding the money shift and any performance improvements I can get along the way. When I am worried about class legality, I will be so regarding an entirely different car. On 10/22/07, Jay Hudson <jwhud@budget.net> wrote: > Aftermarket trans brace/x-members are not legal in some classes. Not sure > if that matters to you. UUC and others make tranny mounts that work with > the OEM x-brace. They do make a very nice improvement over OEM tranny > mounts. I've previously used the UUC black tranny mounts with the aluminum > enforcers (TME) and liked them very much. I currently use the UUC thru-bolt > race mounts and also the UUC motor mounts. Again, like them very much. > > Jay > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:44 AM > Subject: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist > > > > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:43:50 -0700 > > From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> > > Subject: Transmission support / torque twist > > > > At the last track event we attended in Spokane, I was finally starting > > to have trouble with torque twist of the transmission and the > > potential of a money shift. As it was, I only suffered through getting > > 5th instead of 3rd - could have been a lot worse. > > > > I was browsing the JT Design site and noticed their transmission brace > > product. Seems like a good option but I don't know enough about this > > versus other mount / bushing replacement options. Can I get some help > > learning about the correct direction to go with this? > > > > TIA... > >
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#12. Re: Question RE UUC Shortshifter - from Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:46:01 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <rob@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: Question RE UUC Shortshifter It's not the shifter (unless the rubber inner boot is installed incorrectly and is binding)... the shifter merely actuates the gearbox, and your description points at something else entirely. Your symptoms point to incomplete clutch disengagement... the fact that you have to push it in while slowing down is an indicator. If the problem you are having is in _all_ gears, then it's likely something in the clutch. Could be the clutch itself, or could be the hydraulics not pushing in the release fork all the way. Follow the cheapest/quickest/simplest diagnostic path for clutch/hydraulic problems: 1) Bleed the slave, see if there is air in the system. 2) Check slave itself, a floppy pin means a broken internal clip. The slave could be bad anyway with hyperextended internal seals that won't build pressure. On a '95, if you don't know when/if the slave was ever replaced, go ahead and replace it. BMW slave cylinders should be considered wear items and I prefer to replace them with each clutch swap or every second clutch swap, or no more than 75K miles. Do you know when was the last time the clutch was changed? Miles on the current one? Pressure plate release fingers can weaken with age, and even with everything else working properly, may reach the point where they cannot disengage. Hope that helps! Please feel free to call me directly to discuss further, 908-874-9092 - Rob Levinson > From: kjk <quierom5@yahoo.com> > Subject: Question RE UUC Shortshifter > > I have a new to me '95 M3 with the UCC SS. I am not > exactly sure which model but it was installed within > the last 2 years. I just had the transmission fluid > replaced with Redline ATF. Before and after the fluid > change, it is very difficult to get in first gear to > the extent that I have to put it in as I roll to a > stop. I have yet to check under the shift boot to see > if I can extend the height. In my M5 I have the UUC > kit with a stainless steel knob and it is quite > smooth. However, the effort in the M3 is just too > great. Any near stock solutions? Seriously, I am not > going to lose to much time on track with a longer > throw and in my opinion the increase in effort offsets > any benefit at the moment. > > Kevin Kelly > '95 M3 > '91 M5
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#13. Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:45:23 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist I'm still not sure what to check the engine mounts for...? Happy to do so, but I'm clueless as to what would indicate a problem. On 10/22/07, Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > On Mon, October 22, 2007 11:14 am, Gus Iverson wrote: > > Car is mostly street driven, but I have little concern about NVH. I am > > not turning it into a stripped race car (yet - it is a sedan, too > > valuable to me as a street car), but I have the TC Kline D/A bits on > > it and I'm systematically replacing the OE bushings with the > > tooth-rattling bits so I can take on more NVH than one might otherwise > > think for a street car. > > Then try the RE mounts. And, Jay made a good point as well, check your > motor mounts. > > Jim Bassett > >