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#1. Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist - from Benjamin Hirsch
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:42:42 -0700 From: "Benjamin Hirsch" <benjamin.hirsch@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist Cracks (first and foremost), beyond that mileage, if your car is 100k+, and its on stock motor mounts, they're at least worn, and even new motor mounts would be a slight improvement. There may be other options for you depending on your tolerance for vibration/noise. On 10/22/07, Gus Iverson <gus.iverson@gmail.com> wrote: > > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:45:23 -0700 > From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist > > I'm still not sure what to check the engine mounts for...? Happy to do > so, but I'm clueless as to what would indicate a problem. > > On 10/22/07, Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > > On Mon, October 22, 2007 11:14 am, Gus Iverson wrote: > > > Car is mostly street driven, but I have little concern about NVH. I am > > > not turning it into a stripped race car (yet - it is a sedan, too > > > valuable to me as a street car), but I have the TC Kline D/A bits on > > > it and I'm systematically replacing the OE bushings with the > > > tooth-rattling bits so I can take on more NVH than one might otherwise > > > think for a street car. > > > > Then try the RE mounts. And, Jay made a good point as well, check your > > motor mounts. > > > > Jim Bassett > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > -- Thanks, Ben
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:50:33 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist Car just rolled over 100k - close to 110k now. All those trips to NorCal tracks are really clocking up the miles. Ok, I'll look into engine mounts as well as transmission. Is there a compromise "sport" upgrade between race and OE that I should consider? On 10/22/07, Benjamin Hirsch <benjamin.hirsch@gmail.com> wrote: > Cracks (first and foremost), beyond that mileage, if your car is 100k+, and > its on stock motor mounts, they're at least worn, and even new motor mounts > would be a slight improvement. There may be other options for you depending > on your tolerance for vibration/noise. > > > On 10/22/07, Gus Iverson <gus.iverson@gmail.com> wrote: > > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:45:23 -0700 > > From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist > > > > I'm still not sure what to check the engine mounts for...? Happy to do > > so, but I'm clueless as to what would indicate a problem. > > > > On 10/22/07, Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, October 22, 2007 11:14 am, Gus Iverson wrote: > > > > Car is mostly street driven, but I have little concern about NVH. I am > > > > not turning it into a stripped race car (yet - it is a sedan, too > > > > valuable to me as a street car), but I have the TC Kline D/A bits on > > > > it and I'm systematically replacing the OE bushings with the > > > > tooth-rattling bits so I can take on more NVH than one might otherwise > > > > think for a street car. > > > > > > Then try the RE mounts. And, Jay made a good point as well, check your > > > motor mounts. > > > > > > Jim Bassett > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > -- > Thanks, > Ben
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist - from Jay Hudson
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:24:37 -0700 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist Since the shifter console is mounted between the tranny and the body, any movement of the engine/tranny set can cause an issue with shifting. The motor mounts and tranny mounts act together to hold everything in place. Since you mention times when there is centrifical force pulling on the engine, which is a large mass, it makes sense to check the motor mounts. If the motor mounts are bad, replacing the tranny mounts will not solve the problem for long. What ever you decide, I'd match the motor mounts to the tranny mounts. They work as a team. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:50:33 -0700 > From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist > > Car just rolled over 100k - close to 110k now. All those trips to > NorCal tracks are really clocking up the miles. Ok, I'll look into > engine mounts as well as transmission. Is there a compromise "sport" > upgrade between race and OE that I should consider? > > On 10/22/07, Benjamin Hirsch <benjamin.hirsch@gmail.com> wrote: >> Cracks (first and foremost), beyond that mileage, if your car is 100k+, >> and >> its on stock motor mounts, they're at least worn, and even new motor >> mounts >> would be a slight improvement. There may be other options for you >> depending >> on your tolerance for vibration/noise. >> >> >> On 10/22/07, Gus Iverson <gus.iverson@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:45:23 -0700 >> > From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> >> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist >> > >> > I'm still not sure what to check the engine mounts for...? Happy to do >> > so, but I'm clueless as to what would indicate a problem. >> >
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#4. RE: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist - from Jake.Leverett@gtri.gatech.edu
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:04:48 -0400 From: <Jake.Leverett@gtri.gatech.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist Jay, I never did like the way BMW mounted one end of the shifter linkage to the body of the car so the shift pattern might require a slightly different input depending upon body/engine mount flexing. I made up a set of aluminum sheet metal brackets that supports the shifter so the shifter linkage is no longer supported by the body. Now if the motor and transmission flex relative to the body, the shift pattern stays with the transmission position and not some distorted parallelogram arrangement. The sheet metal brackets attach to the transmission at the same location as the linkage support rod as well as at the two transmission mount locations. This means the linkage is cantilevered off the tail end of the transmission. I have been using this arrangement for about three years now. During these three years I have done two track weekends with very happy results. I am still not sure why BMW choose to mount one end of the shifter linkage to the body of the car. Happy with my existing shifter linkage arrangement. Jake -----Original Message----- From: Jay Hudson [mailto:jwhud@budget.net] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:34 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:24:37 -0700 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist Since the shifter console is mounted between the tranny and the body, any movement of the engine/tranny set can cause an issue with shifting. The motor mounts and tranny mounts act together to hold everything in place.
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#5. Re: Transmission support / torque twist - from Matt Weimer
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:56:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Weimer <mjweimer@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Transmission support / torque twist Hello Gus, On E30's the engine mounts will soften over time and allow the drive-train to move around under certain conditions. On the pre-'88 cars this can cause the pulley's on the engine to wear into the coolant lines and other neat troubles. I do not know if the failure mode is the same on the E36 since they are of a totally different design. I do know that they can become compressed over time; when I refreshed mine at 111k there was a marked difference in the height new vs. old (~1/8" +) and the old mounts had some serious cracking in the rubber. I also installed the Rogue transmission mounts at the same time. How many miles on your car? I sent along a couple of pictures to your personal email. Matt Weimer Hoosier Chapter --------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:45:23 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist I'm still not sure what to check the engine mounts for...? Happy to do so, but I'm clueless as to what would indicate a problem. On 10/22/07, Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > Then try the RE mounts. And, Jay made a good point as well, check your > motor mounts. > > Jim Bassett __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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#6. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news - from Scott McClung
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:02:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news Not 600lbs heavier - more like 250lbs. E36 is 3175, 135 is 3430. wt / hp goes from 12 (assuming the common cheap mods - intake / chip for E36) to 11 (assuming leaving it stock for warrantee coverage). Is the 1 point better weight / hp ratio worth 250lbs to go with it? That remains to be seen I guess. Couple other things to factor in: New 135 is going to be close to $40K with tax and options. The nicest E36 M3 with low miles is about half that. 135 might be a couple tenths quicker to 60 and maybe a couple more tenths by the 1/4mi. Steering / brake feel - for sure advantage M3. LSD - advantage M3. 135 will have a full warrantee and maint. But is that worth $20K? Not sure I'm convinced of that. I think at this point I would pick up a nice low miles 98-99 E36 M3 and put the other $20K towards the kids college fund. Scott --- Marco Romani <marco@corsa-na.com> wrote: > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:30:38 -0700 > From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - > latest news > > Hmm slightly smaller than an E36 M3 and weighs > 600lbs + more. Cool. Where > did they hide the lead? It does have a tiny bit > better weight/hp ratio. > > Marco > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdriver13@aol.com [mailto:mdriver13@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:54 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest > news > > > Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:53:05 -0400 > From: mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news > > > Group, > > > > For those of you that did not receive the BMW > 1-series email here is the > link: > > > > http://links.emails.bmwusa.com/servlet/MailView?ms=NTc4NDYyS0&r=MTQ1MzQ0MTM1 > MAS2&j=Mzg5MDEwNzkS1&mt=1 > > enjoy! > > > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe > Philly Region SCCA > 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion > Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdriver13@aol.com > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 3:14 pm > Subject: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news > > > > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:08:34 -0400 > From: mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: OT: 135 coupe - latest news > > Group, > > Okay, since it must be a slow day, did anyone else > get the email from BMWNA > on > the new 135 series coupe?? Or am I just special > ;-))? > > This still looks like the hot ticket to me.? Closest > thing to the e36 series > in > years.? I'm getting goose-bumps already!? > Electronically controlled limited > slip > differential -- is this a good thing? > > cheers, > > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe > Philly Region SCCA > 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion > Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check > out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - > Release Date: 10/19/2007 > 5:10 AM > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#7. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news - from Marco Romani
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:15:42 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news Yeah guess I was looking at the laden weight of 3732. Unladen is 3384. What the hell is unladen weight - does that include fuel? What ever happened to curb (kerb) weight? And only 348lbs of payload. Me and my wife and one piece of luggage. We'd have to leave the kids at home ;-) http://content.bmwusa.com/microsite/1series2008/assets/pdf/2008_1series_coup e_catalogue.pdf See page 14. -----Original Message----- From: Scott McClung [mailto:smlists@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:04 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:02:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news Not 600lbs heavier - more like 250lbs. E36 is 3175, 135 is 3430. wt / hp goes from 12 (assuming the common cheap mods - intake / chip for E36) to 11 (assuming leaving it stock for warrantee coverage). Is the 1 point better weight / hp ratio worth 250lbs to go with it? That remains to be seen I guess. Couple other things to factor in: New 135 is going to be close to $40K with tax and options. The nicest E36 M3 with low miles is about half that. 135 might be a couple tenths quicker to 60 and maybe a couple more tenths by the 1/4mi. Steering / brake feel - for sure advantage M3. LSD - advantage M3. 135 will have a full warrantee and maint. But is that worth $20K? Not sure I'm convinced of that. I think at this point I would pick up a nice low miles 98-99 E36 M3 and put the other $20K towards the kids college fund. Scott --- Marco Romani <marco@corsa-na.com> wrote: > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:30:38 -0700 > From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - > latest news > > Hmm slightly smaller than an E36 M3 and weighs > 600lbs + more. Cool. Where > did they hide the lead? It does have a tiny bit > better weight/hp ratio. > > Marco > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdriver13@aol.com [mailto:mdriver13@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:54 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest > news > > > Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:53:05 -0400 > From: mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news > > > Group, > > > > For those of you that did not receive the BMW > 1-series email here is the > link: > > > > http://links.emails.bmwusa.com/servlet/MailView?ms=NTc4NDYyS0&r=MTQ1MzQ0MTM1 > MAS2&j=Mzg5MDEwNzkS1&mt=1 > > enjoy! > > > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe > Philly Region SCCA > 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion > Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdriver13@aol.com > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 3:14 pm > Subject: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news > > > > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:08:34 -0400 > From: mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: OT: 135 coupe - latest news > > Group, > > Okay, since it must be a slow day, did anyone else > get the email from BMWNA > on > the new 135 series coupe?? Or am I just special > ;-))? > > This still looks like the hot ticket to me.? Closest > thing to the e36 series > in > years.? I'm getting goose-bumps already!? > Electronically controlled limited > slip > differential -- is this a good thing? > > cheers, > > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe > Philly Region SCCA > 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion > Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check > out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - > Release Date: 10/19/2007 > 5:10 AM > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.3/1082 - Release Date: 10/20/2007 2:59 PM
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#8. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news - from Scott McClung
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:01:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news Well now - that depends - are you refering to the African or European Swallow? ;-) Scott --- Marco Romani <marco@corsa-na.com> wrote: > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:15:42 -0700 > From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - > latest news > > Yeah guess I was looking at the laden weight of > 3732. Unladen is 3384. > What the hell is unladen weight - does that include > fuel? What ever > happened to curb (kerb) weight? And only 348lbs of > payload. Me and my wife > and one piece of luggage. We'd have to leave the > kids at home ;-) > > http://content.bmwusa.com/microsite/1series2008/assets/pdf/2008_1series_coup > e_catalogue.pdf > > See page 14. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott McClung [mailto:smlists@pacbell.net] > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:04 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - > latest news > > > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:02:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - > latest news > > Not 600lbs heavier - more like 250lbs. > > E36 is 3175, 135 is 3430. > > wt / hp goes from 12 (assuming the common cheap mods > - > intake / chip for E36) to 11 (assuming leaving it > stock for warrantee coverage). > > Is the 1 point better weight / hp ratio worth 250lbs > to go with it? That remains to be seen I guess. > > Couple other things to factor in: > New 135 is going to be close to $40K with tax and > options. > > The nicest E36 M3 with low miles is about half that. > > 135 might be a couple tenths quicker to 60 and maybe > a > couple more tenths by the 1/4mi. Steering / brake > feel - for sure advantage M3. LSD - advantage M3. > 135 will have a full warrantee and maint. But is > that > worth $20K? Not sure I'm convinced of that. I > think > at this point I would pick up a nice low miles 98-99 > E36 M3 and put the other $20K towards the kids > college > fund. > > Scott > > --- Marco Romani <marco@corsa-na.com> wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:30:38 -0700 > > From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> > > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - > > latest news > > > > Hmm slightly smaller than an E36 M3 and weighs > > 600lbs + more. Cool. Where > > did they hide the lead? It does have a tiny bit > > better weight/hp ratio. > > > > Marco > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mdriver13@aol.com [mailto:mdriver13@aol.com] > > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:54 AM > > To: E36M3 > > Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - > latest > > news > > > > > > Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:53:05 -0400 > > From: mdriver13@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news > > > > > > Group, > > > > > > > > For those of you that did not receive the BMW > > 1-series email here is the > > link: > > > > > > > > > http://links.emails.bmwusa.com/servlet/MailView?ms=NTc4NDYyS0&r=MTQ1MzQ0MTM1 > > MAS2&j=Mzg5MDEwNzkS1&mt=1 > > > > enjoy! > > > > > > > > Bob Gill > > 97 ///M3 coupe > > Philly Region SCCA > > 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion > > Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mdriver13@aol.com > > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > Sent: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 3:14 pm > > Subject: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:08:34 -0400 > > From: mdriver13@aol.com > > Subject: OT: 135 coupe - latest news > > > > Group, > > > > Okay, since it must be a slow day, did anyone else > > get the email from BMWNA > > on > > the new 135 series coupe?? Or am I just special > > ;-))? > > > > This still looks like the hot ticket to me.? > Closest > > thing to the e36 series > > in > > years.? I'm getting goose-bumps already!? > > Electronically controlled limited > > slip > > differential -- is this a good thing? > > > > cheers, > > > > > > Bob Gill > > 97 ///M3 coupe > > Philly Region SCCA > > 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion > > Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check > > out free AOL Mail! - > > http://mail.aol.com > > > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > > sponsors: > > > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > Eurosport High Performance > > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - > > Release Date: 10/19/2007 > > 5:10 AM > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > > sponsors: > > > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > === message truncated ===
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist - from Alex Demsky
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:06:35 -0400 From: Alex Demsky <hyper_m3@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist Ive been using the JT-Designs tranny mount for about 8 yrs now. First off, its such a beautifully designed piece that its like a work of art. Its unfortunate that it has to be mounted in a place that few will ever see. It does an absolutely remarkable job at conquering tranny flex. There is never second guessing as to which gear youre putting it in. I even felt that I regained some of the robbed % of hp usually lost through transmission consumption. You will however get a lot more vibration through the shifter and noise in the cabin. However the noise is one of pure joy, upon engine braking it sounds like you have straight cut gears(at least in my car).Alex "HyperM3" Demsky 07 BMW 335i ~ [url]http://hometown.aol.com/hyperm3/Hyper335.html[/url]97 BMW S/C M3 ~ [url]http://hometown.aol.com/hyperm3/Bimmer.html[/url]07 Ducati 695 ~ [url]http://hometown.aol.com/hyperm3/Ducati695.html[/url]> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:44:22 -0500> From: gus.iverson@gmail.com> To: e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist> > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:43:50 -0700> From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com>> Subject: Transmission support / torque twist> > At the last track event we attended in Spokane, I was finally starting> to have trouble with torque twist of the transmission and the> potential of a money shift. As it was, I only suffered through getting> 5th instead of 3rd - could have been a lot worse.> > I was browsing the JT Design site and noticed their transmission brace> product. Seems like a good option but I don't know enough about this> versus other mount / bushing replacement options. Can I get some help> learning about the correct direction to go with this?> > TIA...
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#10. Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:40:33 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news Mine was just on the scales when we corner balanced it. 3553 with me and a full tank of gas. If it was 3533, I'd be a whole hell of a lot happier on a number of levels. My friends who run the shop (quick plug: http://www.tcmotorsports.net - fantastic shop and great people) had a great time pointing out that mine was the heaviest car ever to grace their scales. On 10/22/07, Marco Romani <marco@corsa-na.com> wrote: > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:15:42 -0700 > From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news > > Yeah guess I was looking at the laden weight of 3732. Unladen is 3384. > What the hell is unladen weight - does that include fuel? What ever > happened to curb (kerb) weight? And only 348lbs of payload. Me and my wife > and one piece of luggage. We'd have to leave the kids at home ;-) > > http://content.bmwusa.com/microsite/1series2008/assets/pdf/2008_1series_coup > e_catalogue.pdf > > See page 14. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott McClung [mailto:smlists@pacbell.net] > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:04 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news > > > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:02:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news > > Not 600lbs heavier - more like 250lbs. > > E36 is 3175, 135 is 3430. > > wt / hp goes from 12 (assuming the common cheap mods - > intake / chip for E36) to 11 (assuming leaving it > stock for warrantee coverage). > > Is the 1 point better weight / hp ratio worth 250lbs > to go with it? That remains to be seen I guess. > > Couple other things to factor in: > New 135 is going to be close to $40K with tax and > options. > > The nicest E36 M3 with low miles is about half that. > > 135 might be a couple tenths quicker to 60 and maybe a > couple more tenths by the 1/4mi. Steering / brake > feel - for sure advantage M3. LSD - advantage M3. > 135 will have a full warrantee and maint. But is that > worth $20K? Not sure I'm convinced of that. I think > at this point I would pick up a nice low miles 98-99 > E36 M3 and put the other $20K towards the kids college > fund. > > Scott > > --- Marco Romani <marco@corsa-na.com> wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:30:38 -0700 > > From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> > > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - > > latest news > > > > Hmm slightly smaller than an E36 M3 and weighs > > 600lbs + more. Cool. Where > > did they hide the lead? It does have a tiny bit > > better weight/hp ratio. > > > > Marco > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mdriver13@aol.com [mailto:mdriver13@aol.com] > > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:54 AM > > To: E36M3 > > Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest > > news > > > > > > Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:53:05 -0400 > > From: mdriver13@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news > > > > > > Group, > > > > > > > > For those of you that did not receive the BMW > > 1-series email here is the > > link: > > > > > > > > > http://links.emails.bmwusa.com/servlet/MailView?ms=NTc4NDYyS0&r=MTQ1MzQ0MTM1 > > MAS2&j=Mzg5MDEwNzkS1&mt=1 > > > > enjoy! > > > > > > > > Bob Gill > > 97 ///M3 coupe > > Philly Region SCCA > > 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion > > Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mdriver13@aol.com > > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > Sent: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 3:14 pm > > Subject: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:08:34 -0400 > > From: mdriver13@aol.com > > Subject: OT: 135 coupe - latest news > > > > Group, > > > > Okay, since it must be a slow day, did anyone else > > get the email from BMWNA > > on > > the new 135 series coupe?? Or am I just special > > ;-))? > > > > This still looks like the hot ticket to me.? Closest > > thing to the e36 series > > in > > years.? I'm getting goose-bumps already!? > > Electronically controlled limited > > slip > > differential -- is this a good thing? > > > > cheers, > > > > > > Bob Gill > > 97 ///M3 coupe > > Philly Region SCCA > > 2005/2006 Philly Region BSP Champion > > Sponsored by WCC & Rogue Engineering > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Email and AIM finally together. 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