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#1. Carbon Fiber Hood - from Matt Bader
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:00:03 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: Carbon Fiber Hood I am trying to source a carbon fiber hood for my four-door. I was at BMWCCA picnic awhile back where a couple of guys recommended Seibon products. Seibon only sells through distributors so I contacted one of them and they tell me the hood weighs "35-45" pounds. This seems way too high. The stock hood supposedly weighs 45 lbs. Ma Shaw makes a nice GTR hood that weighs something like ten-twelve pounds. But, it's expensive, and has the open slats on it, not very practical I suppose for when it rains. Anybody know good source for carbon fiber hood? They appear to be harder to find for the four-door than the coupe from what my preliminary research suggests. I just purchased the CF sunroof panel, and am looking forward to installing that this coming week-end. Tia, Matt Bader 98 M3/4 Delaware
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Carbon Fiber Hood - from Ed MacVaugh
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:34:14 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <macvaugh@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Carbon Fiber Hood I saw a plain MA Shaw 4 door hood on his website. Ed Matt Bader wrote: > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:00:03 -0400 > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > Subject: Carbon Fiber Hood > > I am trying to source a carbon fiber hood for my four-door. I was at BMWCCA > picnic awhile back where a couple of guys recommended Seibon products. > Seibon only sells through distributors so I contacted one of them and they > tell me the hood weighs "35-45" pounds. This seems way too high. The stock > hood supposedly weighs 45 lbs. Ma Shaw makes a nice GTR hood that weighs > something like ten-twelve pounds. But, it's expensive, and has the open > slats on it, not very practical I suppose for when it rains. Anybody know > good source for carbon fiber hood? They appear to be harder to find for the > four-door than the coupe from what my preliminary research suggests.
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#3. Re: Transmission support / torque twist - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:35:47 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Transmission support / torque twist on 10/22/07 10:54 PM, "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm still not sure what to check the engine mounts for...? Happy to do > so, but I'm clueless as to what would indicate a problem. Cracking and separating of the rubber. The problem is that they're not very visible as installed, so to really get a look at them you need to partially detach the mounts. At that point you might as well go ahead and replace them anyway. You should also check the subframe for cracking where the mounts bolt to it. I suspect that any M3 should have its motor mounts replaced by around 100K unless it's only been driven gently - bwahahaha! Good one! - or sooner if its tracked. I installed new stock mounts at maybe 70K miles while the front subframe was off for other reasons. The exhaust side mount wasn't in good condition, the other seemed OK. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD
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#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:41:37 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist I remember e36M3 radiator neck failure discussion along the line of this subject to the extent of the hoses being tugged on by excessive engine movement. One of our list sponsor had/has a sale on grupe-N like mounts for what I remember was I reasonable price. Now if I could just remember who it was.... Patrick 97 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Matt Weimer [mailto:mjweimer@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:04 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:56:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Weimer <mjweimer@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Transmission support / torque twist Hello Gus, On E30's the engine mounts will soften over time and allow the drive-train to move around under certain conditions. On the pre-'88 cars this can cause the pulley's on the engine to wear into the coolant lines and other neat troubles. I do not know if the failure mode is the same on the E36 since they are of a totally different design. I do know that they can become compressed over time; when I refreshed mine at 111k there was a marked difference in the height new vs. old (~1/8" +) and the old mounts had some serious cracking in the rubber. I also installed the Rogue transmission mounts at the same time. How many miles on your car? I sent along a couple of pictures to your personal email. Matt Weimer Hoosier Chapter --------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:45:23 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission support / torque twist I'm still not sure what to check the engine mounts for...? Happy to do so, but I'm clueless as to what would indicate a problem. On 10/22/07, Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > Then try the RE mounts. And, Jay made a good point as well, check your > motor mounts. > > Jim Bassett __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:48:10 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist How difficult(beers) is the mount replacement? -----Original Message----- From: Neil Maller [mailto:neil.maller@gte.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:44 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:35:47 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Transmission support / torque twist on 10/22/07 10:54 PM, "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm still not sure what to check the engine mounts for...? Happy to do > so, but I'm clueless as to what would indicate a problem. Cracking and separating of the rubber. The problem is that they're not very visible as installed, so to really get a look at them you need to partially detach the mounts. At that point you might as well go ahead and replace them anyway. You should also check the subframe for cracking where the mounts bolt to it. I suspect that any M3 should have its motor mounts replaced by around 100K unless it's only been driven gently - bwahahaha! Good one! - or sooner if its tracked. I installed new stock mounts at maybe 70K miles while the front subframe was off for other reasons. The exhaust side mount wasn't in good condition, the other seemed OK. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist - from Melton, Tom
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:57:12 -0400 From: "Melton, Tom" <Tom.Melton@emoryhealthcare.org> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist Bimmerworld - look under Specials. Http://www.bimmerworld.com -Tom Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:41:37 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist .... One of our list sponsor had/has a sale on grupe-N like mounts for what I remember was I reasonable price. Now if I could just remember who it was.... Patrick This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments).
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist - from marty
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:59:35 -0400 From: marty <mfraiser@embarqmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist Bimmerworld? They have some new Gruppe N-like motor mounts for $199, regular price $249. http://www.nexternal.com/bimmerworl/Product930 marty Goss, Patrick - PA wrote: > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:41:37 -0500 > From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist > > I remember e36M3 radiator neck failure discussion along the line of this > subject to the extent of the hoses being tugged on by excessive engine > movement. One of our list sponsor had/has a sale on grupe-N like mounts > for what I remember was I reasonable price. Now if I could just > remember who it was.... > > Patrick > 97 M3/4 > >
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Carbon Fiber Hood - from Matt Bader
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:18:13 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Carbon Fiber Hood He wrote to me and said he only had the GTR hood. Possibly no stock on the other not sure. -----Original Message----- From: Ed MacVaugh [mailto:macvaugh@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:34 AM To: Matt Bader Cc: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Carbon Fiber Hood I saw a plain MA Shaw 4 door hood on his website. Ed Matt Bader wrote: > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:00:03 -0400 > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > Subject: Carbon Fiber Hood > > I am trying to source a carbon fiber hood for my four-door. I was at BMWCCA > picnic awhile back where a couple of guys recommended Seibon products. > Seibon only sells through distributors so I contacted one of them and they > tell me the hood weighs "35-45" pounds. This seems way too high. The stock > hood supposedly weighs 45 lbs. Ma Shaw makes a nice GTR hood that weighs > something like ten-twelve pounds. But, it's expensive, and has the open > slats on it, not very practical I suppose for when it rains. Anybody know > good source for carbon fiber hood? They appear to be harder to find for the > four-door than the coupe from what my preliminary research suggests.
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:21:39 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist Thanks Marty and Tom, those are the ones. I wonder how these are NVH wise? I would guess somewhere between stock and the genuine gruppe-N. Maybe someone on the list will comment. I'd hate to go too rigid and have a subframe failure. Had that before on a previous car, twice actually. Does anyone know the durometer of the bimmerwrld as well as the gruppe-n mounts? Patrick 97 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: marty [mailto:mfraiser@embarqmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:04 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:59:35 -0400 From: marty <mfraiser@embarqmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist Bimmerworld? They have some new Gruppe N-like motor mounts for $199, regular price $249. http://www.nexternal.com/bimmerworl/Product930 marty Goss, Patrick - PA wrote: > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:41:37 -0500 > From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Transmission support / torque twist > > I remember e36M3 radiator neck failure discussion along the line of this > subject to the extent of the hoses being tugged on by excessive engine > movement. One of our list sponsor had/has a sale on grupe-N like mounts > for what I remember was I reasonable price. Now if I could just > remember who it was.... > > Patrick > 97 M3/4 > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#10. Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news - from Stefano G
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:52:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stefano G" <stefanoale@excite.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news How about a 123d with 200hp+ 300lbs and ~50mpg combined? Did I mention it's another 80Kg lighter and likely another $6-7K cheaper? Fine not a monster at the track (you could tweak the turbos but I digress...) but pretty nice overall for a daily driver with occasional track days. But then I'm more into hatches as they are so functional and I'm looking fwd to the VW Golf GTD or a mazda3 with a zoom zoom diesel, keeping the 'M3 and getting the kart for the serious stuff. Stefano Likely keeping the '98 M3/kart for the fun stuff. -------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:30:38 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] OT: 135 coupe - latest news Hmm slightly smaller than an E36 M3 and weighs 600lbs + more. Cool. Where did they hide the lead? It does have a tiny bit better weight/hp ratio. Marco Join Excite! - http://www.excite.comThe most personalized portal on the Web! _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!