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#1. Re: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:34:36 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt > Yes the big ass 17mm hex head is rounded off. So I guess ez-out or drilling > it out would be the only option then? Kinda sucks but oh well. You should be able to use a very large easy out without any drilling. One of these might work: http://www.toolprice.com/product/1225D/8_PC_Jumbo_Easy_Out_Set_USA.html Jamie
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Carbon Fiber Hood - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:36:16 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Carbon Fiber Hood > I just did a carbon insert for the sunroof. And that project went > reasonably well. It was roughly 4 lbs in exchange for 36 lbs up top, so I > was happy with that. Quality of the piece I used was good, but not perfect. Matt, Where did you find the CF Sunroof panel? Thanks Jamie
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Carbon Fiber Hood - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:46:21 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Carbon Fiber Hood Removing the hood insulation is free, euro floater rotors are lighter and not much more than us stock replacements which is a 2-fer since unsprung weight. Stainless headers vs the heavy stock cast ones. AC compressor if dedicated car...Im not sure if the aluminum radiators are lighter than oem, perhaps another 2-fer if so (durability). Fan delete, Fog light delete are almost free. Total this stuff might be 100 lbs off the front. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Bader [mailto:mbader@exammaster.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:34 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Carbon Fiber Hood Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:30:38 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Carbon Fiber Hood I just did a carbon insert for the sunroof. And that project went reasonably well. It was roughly 4 lbs in exchange for 36 lbs up top, so I was happy with that. Quality of the piece I used was good, but not perfect. I believe that sunroof delete is a reasonably safe weight reduction, but I know what you mean about the balance issue. You also have to consider safety, and structural issues such as body flex, etc. Right now, with removing a lot of materials from the trunk area, and with forced induction up front, I have undoubtedly tipped the weight balance somewhat toward the front. This is offset partially by the lightweight flywheel I am using. So, I try to keep that in mind when exploring other weight saving options. I have considered sourcing CF for the hood, and leaving the trunk alone to try to keep the 50/50 balance as much as possible. Using lightweight seats is probably a wash as far as front/rear weight distribution from what I can tell. In general, I think weight savings is a good thing, and will also help in braking performance. I met a guy at a car event who had a Charger SRT-8 with the 425 hp hemi engine. The thing had massive brakes, but no wonder, the car weighed 4100 lbs! Matt -----Original Message----- From: George R Carr Jr [mailto:georgercarrjr@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:14 AM To: Matt Bader Subject: Re: [E36M3] Carbon Fiber Hood Hello Matt, I explored CF parts for my 98 M3/4 a few years back and did not find a known to work well option without buying and receiving to check them out. There have been CF parts for the hood, rear deck, and door skins. I'm also interested for my M Roadster (2000). I recall something like 8-10 pounds per equivalent 1 HP gain. Loosing 100 pounds will assist in performance and things like tire and suspension wear. It will also change the balance of the car which could be a problem. Please let me (and the list) know how your adventure turns out. Thanks, George >Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:00:03 -0400 >From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> >Subject: Carbon Fiber Hood > >I am trying to source a carbon fiber hood for my four-door. I was at BMWCCA >picnic awhile back where a couple of guys recommended Seibon products. >Seibon only sells through distributors so I contacted one of them and they >tell me the hood weighs "35-45" pounds. This seems way too high. The stock >hood supposedly weighs 45 lbs. Ma Shaw makes a nice GTR hood that weighs >something like ten-twelve pounds. But, it's expensive, and has the open >slats on it, not very practical I suppose for when it rains. Anybody know >good source for carbon fiber hood? They appear to be harder to find for the >four-door than the coupe from what my preliminary research suggests. > > > >I just purchased the CF sunroof panel, and am looking forward to installing >that this coming week-end. > > > >Tia, > > > >Matt Bader > >98 M3/4 > >Delaware > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* -- ====== __ __ George R Carr Jr / / / / | / | ______ 98M3/4 BL/SS / / / / |/ | o/______\o BMWCCA 156632 JTD/ / / / shark | (**=00=**) georgercarrjr@earthlink.net/ / / /__/|__/|__| []*-XX-*[] also 00MRoadster (Sharkster) ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#4. RE: [E36M3] Carbon Fiber Hood - from Matt Bader
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:53:36 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Carbon Fiber Hood Chad at whyyynott@aol.com. He also sells on ebay, and others have purchased from him in the past. The flange/lip part was probably 1/4 to 3/8 inch too big so I had to use a rotary tool to bring it down to size. The insert part fit well, if slightly too tight in one corner. Quality is good, not great, a little sloppy looking underneath. Some speaker cloth should take care of that. I was able to re-use ten fasteners (torx) from the original cassette. Drilling will be necessary, as well as using black silicone. Matt -----Original Message----- From: Jamie Howton [mailto:jhowton@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:36 AM To: Matt Bader Cc: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Carbon Fiber Hood > I just did a carbon insert for the sunroof. And that project went > reasonably well. It was roughly 4 lbs in exchange for 36 lbs up top, so I > was happy with that. Quality of the piece I used was good, but not perfect. Matt, Where did you find the CF Sunroof panel? Thanks Jamie
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:52:59 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt On 10/31/07, Ahmad Lutfeali <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> wrote: > Chester, > > Yes the big ass 17mm hex head is rounded off. So I guess ez-out or drilling > it out would be the only option then? Kinda sucks but oh well. If I recall there's not much access to that area. You aren't going to get a drill in there. You may have to weld something to it like a socket with a flat so you can turn the darn thing. Carlos 98 M3
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:54:27 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt I can think of 2 big reasons not to drill. Trans removal, and shavings in case if you go deep past plug bolt. How deep must the hole be to use the easy out? How deep do you think that plug is? Probably less than an inch. Try the Goss way first. Works good enough for motorweek. Patrick Goss (BTW, I am not the the Pat Goss from motorweek) 97 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Jamie Howton [mailto:jhowton@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:44 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:34:36 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt > Yes the big ass 17mm hex head is rounded off. So I guess ez-out or drilling > it out would be the only option then? Kinda sucks but oh well. You should be able to use a very large easy out without any drilling. One of these might work: http://www.toolprice.com/product/1225D/8_PC_Jumbo_Easy_Out_Set_USA.html Jamie ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt - from loweseaton@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:07:21 -0400 From: loweseaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt I would not do too much drilling.? You do NOT want metal shavings in your transmission.? I don't know how much clearance you have but I would try using a big pipe wrench on the bolt head. If the bolt head is rounded off, I'm guessing you will have a very difficult time getting it out.? I know the first time I took my tranny plugs out, it required a 4' gas?pipe on a 1/2" breaker bar.? I must have used over 500 ft/lbs of torque to back them out.? And this was from the factory!? Somebody put way too much torque on the plugs when they tightened them. Good luck. Lowell Seaton -----Original Message----- From: Ahmad Lutfeali <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:24 am Subject: RE: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:15:00 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt Chester, Yes the big ass 17mm hex head is rounded off. So I guess ez-out or drilling it out would be the only option then? Kinda sucks but oh well. Ahmad -----Original Message----- From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:11 AM To: Ahmad Lutfeali; E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt Meaning you rounded off the big ass 17mm hex head?!?! Or did you strip the threads? That sounds like a big job since I wouldn't trust anything but a big ez-out or something like that and I would imagine you'd need to drop the tranny to do that safety and accurately. Chester --- Ahmad Lutfeali <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> wrote: > Since there is not such thing as a stupid question: > > The tranny oil fill bolt has been stripped previously. (Thank God I > didn't drain it out first). What option/method do I have to get the > stripped bolt off? ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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#8. stripped tranny fill plug - from RFKoby@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:16:13 EDT From: RFKoby@aol.com Subject: stripped tranny fill plug Been there, sort of, almost rounded one off..... The drain and fill plug are 17mm hex head. ONLY USE A 6 POINT BOX WRENCH ON THESE, NO 12 POINTS. These are very tight from the factory, and have a lot of stiction. If you have already rounded off the head, use a small pipe wrench. Once you get the plug out, replace. Always use telfon tape on the plug threads and tight the plug GENTLY. It does not take much torque and the tranny is not under pressure. I use the "1 hand twist on a short wrench" amount of torque. Bob's Garage Mahal In a message dated 10/31/2007 11:46:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, e36m3@bmw-m.net writes: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:55:28 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Stripped Bolt Since there is not such thing as a stupid question: The tranny oil fill bolt has been stripped previously. (Thank God I didn't drain it out first). What option/method do I have to get the stripped bolt off? Thanks in advance. Ahmad ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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#9. Steering wheel questions - from Russ Doucet
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:17:09 -0400 From: "Russ Doucet" <russ@russdoucet.com> Subject: Steering wheel questions My leather 3-spoke m sport airbag wheel has two issues. 1. Leather disintegrating on top. I think the PO gripped it from the top all the time and wore it through. What's the best bet for fixing that problem? Rest of wheel is fine -- thumbgrips, badging, colored stitching, everthing. Just 3 inches on the top, disintegrating to where if your hands are wet it comes off on your fingers. 2. Squeaky noise from wheel. Is there a horn ring and contacts in there? I had the wheel off, looks like I need to remove the airbag to get in there and I'm nervous about that. Any advice from the experienced? I think my pump may be going but it also almost feels like something is binding inside the wheel based on the relationship of sounds to difficulty steering. Thanks all. -Russ.
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:25:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt I wasn't saying drilling through the bolt! =) Just drill enough to give an easy out a chance to grip if a monkey wrench wouldn't work. --- loweseaton@aol.com wrote: > I would not do too much drilling.? You do NOT want metal shavings in your > transmission.? I don't know how much clearance you have but I would try using > a big pipe wrench on the bolt head.
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#11. RE: [E36M3] Steering wheel questions - from Matt Bader
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:29:21 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Steering wheel questions When I had more horn fixed, I was told there was a slip ring in there for the horn, but I have not personally seen it. After the fix, my wheel is actually noisier than before, and I think it has something to do with the slip ring. Never bothered to have it checked as I went through too much of a nightmare to get the horn fixed. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 Delaware -----Original Message----- From: Russ Doucet [mailto:russ@russdoucet.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:24 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Steering wheel questions Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:17:09 -0400 From: "Russ Doucet" <russ@russdoucet.com> Subject: Steering wheel questions My leather 3-spoke m sport airbag wheel has two issues. 1. Leather disintegrating on top. I think the PO gripped it from the top all the time and wore it through. What's the best bet for fixing that problem? Rest of wheel is fine -- thumbgrips, badging, colored stitching, everthing. Just 3 inches on the top, disintegrating to where if your hands are wet it comes off on your fingers. 2. Squeaky noise from wheel. Is there a horn ring and contacts in there? I had the wheel off, looks like I need to remove the airbag to get in there and I'm nervous about that. Any advice from the experienced? I think my pump may be going but it also almost feels like something is binding inside the wheel based on the relationship of sounds to difficulty steering. Thanks all. -Russ. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#12. RE: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt - from Ron Kirkland
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:31:37 -0700 From: "Ron Kirkland" <rlkirkland@gmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt How about this? http://www.irwin.com/irwin/consumer/jhtml/browse.jhtml;jsessionid=FP3AXVUAQU KEOCQHUB2CF3QKA4QGIJCK?catId=IrwinCat100511 -----Original Message----- From: Ahmad Lutfeali [mailto:m3_racer99@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:04 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:55:28 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Stripped Bolt Since there is not such thing as a stupid question: The tranny oil fill bolt has been stripped previously. (Thank God I didn't drain it out first). What option/method do I have to get the stripped bolt off? Thanks in advance. Ahmad ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#13. RE: Stripped Bolts - from Kirk Lachman
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:32:07 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Kirk Lachman <admranger@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: Stripped Bolts Ahmad, Two words: pipe wrench. Ok, three words: Big pipe wrench. Might also want to gently (?) heat the aluminum case around the bolt as the aluminum will expand faster than the steel plug, thereby loosening the fit. Cheers, Kirk Lachman Sin City Chapter